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Magnus Anderson
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Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:02 am But, 'it' is 'an answer'. Infact every words 'means' what 'it' means, 'to you'. Which obviously can be very, very different, 'to another's, and even opposing different. And, this without even mentionp how one word can mean different things at different times to the exact same person.
It's not an answer.
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Age wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:32 am But I am not dodging the question, at all, the word 'definition', just like all words, mean whatever one, the speaker/listener/writer/reader, wants it/them to mean.
Yes, you are. I asked what the word means. You said, "It means whatever it means." It's an idiotic non-answer.
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Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:02 am you just spend quite a bit of time 'trying to' defend a belief and claim of yours by using 'definitions' in your own way, which was not the 'usual' or 'common' way, anyway.
That's a lie you've been pushing forward for a while.
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Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:53 am
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:02 am Well, absolutely obviously, you never asked about the so-called 'common definition', anywhere. So, once again, 'this one', once more' asked for and said some thing that it did not even mean. Therefore, I will, again, reiterate, say and write what you actually mean, and, mean what you actually say and write, and then there will not be so much confusion and misunderstandings, here. And, in regards to asking questions, if you want a particular specific answer, then just ask the actual specific question, which you want a specific answer for.

There is absolutely no use at all if, for example, you ask for the definition of a word when what you actually wanted was a specific type of definition for a word. Again, just ask for exactly what 'it' is that you want, here.

How much simpler and easier could things get, here?

Now, if you are asking about some so-claimed 'common definition', then, like always, that would be relative to 'the observer'. Unless, of course, you have some particular numbers that show and prove, on its own, the 'commonness' of 'a definition'.

Now, 'I' will remind 'this one' that what is so-called 'common' all depends on not just the 'year/s', but also on the 'time', when the question is asked, as well on the culture, and country, and also on the group of people being referenced.

As can be easily sent, here, there are quite a number of differing variables that need to be taken into account, first. That is, if 'this one' really does want the true, and right, answer, here

So, obviously what is 'common' in my point of reference and from my perspective might well not be to you. And, then what are 'we' going to do, exactly? Fight over who's view and who's words are 'right' and who's are not?

In case you have forgotten 'I' have already explained to 'you' what are 'right' words, and which words are not.

Also, and by the way, what does 'commonality' even have to with absolutely any thing, here?

you just spend quite a bit of time 'trying to' defend a belief and claim of yours by using 'definitions' in your own way, which was not the 'usual' or 'common' way, anyway.
I asked you for the common definition of the word "definition". I got a response with 374 words in it that do not answer the question AT ALL. Just more of your usual mindless blabbering.
Now, let 'us' 'look at' what the actual Truth is, here, exactly.

you first asked, 'What does the word "definition" mean?'ONLY.

you then claimed, 'I am asking about the common definition though'.

So, you never, ever asked for the common definition of the word, 'definition', AT ALL.

you can 'now' keep 'trying to' deceive, here. But, you are certainly not helping "your" 'self' in any way at all, here.
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Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:56 am
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:02 am But, 'it' is 'an answer'. Infact every words 'means' what 'it' means, 'to you'. Which obviously can be very, very different, 'to another's, and even opposing different. And, this without even mentionp how one word can mean different things at different times to the exact same person.
It's not an answer.
So, if 'it' is not 'an answer', then what is 'the answer' to the question, 'What does the word 'definition' mean?

Will you answer?

If no, then why not?

In fact can you even answer 'that question'?
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Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:58 am
Age wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:32 am But I am not dodging the question, at all, the word 'definition', just like all words, mean whatever one, the speaker/listener/writer/reader, wants it/them to mean.
Yes, you are. I asked what the word means. You said, "It means whatever it means." It's an idiotic non-answer.
I said, the word, definition, means whatever a speaker/listener/writer/reader, [person], wants 'that word' to mean.

Can you, really, not see 'the difference' between what 'you saw and claim', from what 'I actually said and wrote', here?

If no, then 'this' is why you are continually so lost and confused, here.

I never said, 'It means whatever it means'. 'This' is just your own interpretation, only.

And, as I have already noted, if at a 'later date' you were, really meaning, about some so-called 'common definition', then what is the word, 'common', in relation to, exactly? As already noted, you would have to answer, and clarify, 'this', first.

Besides being very lost and confused, here, you do appear to be very slow as well.

Have you already answered what the 'common' word is in relation to, exactly?

If no, then how do you expect 'me' or 'another' to answer and clarify 'your question', here, exactly?
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Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:05 am
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:02 am you just spend quite a bit of time 'trying to' defend a belief and claim of yours by using 'definitions' in your own way, which was not the 'usual' or 'common' way, anyway.
That's a lie you've been pushing forward for a while.
'They' were, more or less, 'your own words', in 'your thread' about 'morality is objective' [by "magnus"].

you also even claimed that 'the writer' can mean what they like, in regards to 'the words' that 'they write'.

As well as claiming that what one means is not true and false, also. Or, some thing like that.
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Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:37 am 'They' were, more or less, 'your own words', in 'your thread' about 'morality is objective' [by "magnus"].
Another falsehood.

You pretty much misunderstood everything I wrote in that thread.
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:37 am you also even claimed that 'the writer' can mean what they like, in regards to 'the words' that 'they write'.
Correct, that's what I said. But what you said to me in your earlier post is, "You spend a lot of time trying to defend a belief by using definitions in your own." That isn't true and it does not follow from what I said.
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Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:23 am I never said, 'It means whatever it means'. 'This' is just your own interpretation, only.
That's what your "It means whatever its speaker wants it to mean" boils down to.

Stop prendeing you answered the question.
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:23 am Have you already answered what the 'common' word is in relation to, exactly?
Since you're such a braindead idiot, you're free to describe what meaning you assign to the word "definition". You don't have to bother with common definitions. I can already tell the task is way too difficult for you.
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And by the way, the word "common" means whatever its speaker wants it to mean.

There you go. Now answer my question.
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Stand down, Age. You are being misled.

"And by the way, the word "common" means whatever its speaker wants it to mean"

Only if in the utterance no contradiction is yielded. Thus, "this is a really common occurrence here where nothing common happens" is proof that eliminates at least one possible meaning for the word 'common': "What happens here is common." Ergo, 'common' can never mean 'what happens here' and so, in fact, this word can't mean anything you want it to mean.
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promethean75 wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:00 pm Only if in the utterance no contradiction is yielded. Thus, "this is a really common occurrence here where nothing common happens" is proof that eliminates at least one possible meaning for the word 'common': "What happens here is common." Ergo, 'common' can never mean 'what happens here' and so, in fact, this word can't mean anything you want it to mean.
You're arguing against Age, and I like that, but you're not doing it in a good way.
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Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:26 pm
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:23 am I never said, 'It means whatever it means'. 'This' is just your own interpretation, only.
That's what your "It means whatever its speaker wants it to mean" boils down to.
Here, 'we' have another prime example of just how quickly, simply, and easily 'these human beings' got completely lost, confused, and so, so off track.

'This one', blatantly, took 'my actual words', twisted them around in 'that head', combined 'this new distortion', with its own already held distorted beliefs, and then claims that what 'I' actually said, wrote, and meant, means some thing aligned with its own cognitive distortions.

LOL 'This one' can not even just copy 'my actual words' Correctly. So, there is no wonder why it just keeps on making Wrong assumptions and complete misinterpretations, here.

Next it might 'try to' claim some thing like, 'Stop pretending that you answered the question'. Which would be another clear actual distorted belief of it.
Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:26 pm Stop prendeing you answered the question.
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:23 am Have you already answered what the 'common' word is in relation to, exactly?
Since you're such a braindead idiot, you're free to describe what meaning you assign to the word "definition".
LOL It is 'you' who, when done, then decided to claim that you wanted not just what the 'definition' word means, but 'now' what the 'common definition' means.
Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:26 pm You don't have to bother with common definitions. I can already tell the task is way too difficult for you.
LOL Just 'look at' how much 'this one' 'tries' its hardest to fool and deceive 'you', readers, here.
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Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:17 pm
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:37 am 'They' were, more or less, 'your own words', in 'your thread' about 'morality is objective' [by "magnus"].
Another falsehood.

You pretty much misunderstood everything I wrote in that thread.
Just because absolutely no agreed with and accepted your own premises and conclusions does not mean that 'I' nor 'anyone else' misunderstood 'any thing', let alone 'pretty much every thing' in 'your thread'.

Once again you seem to have completely and utterly missed, or misunderstood, that just because 'the conclusion' is True, Right, Accurate, and Correct, this never means that your own made up premises will prove 'the conclusion' is actually True, Right, Accurate, and/nor Correct.

Once more, you need to find and use the actual Correct, Accurate, Right, and True words first, and only.

Then, and only, then you will be fully understood. Until then, you will keep blaming 'others' for your own mistakes and lack of finding and using the actual Correct words.
Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:17 pm
Age wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:37 am you also even claimed that 'the writer' can mean what they like, in regards to 'the words' that 'they write'.
Correct, that's what I said.
Great. Thank you for now admitting 'this'. When 'I', more or less, just copied what 'you have previously claimed', you then claimed that 'I' was not answering 'your question'. However, you are 'now' admitting, although because of your inability to read and see clearly you may not be understanding, that I actually did answer 'your question', before.
Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:17 pm But what you said to me in your earlier post is, "You spend a lot of time trying to defend a belief by using definitions in your own." That isn't true and it does not follow from what I said.
If 'this' is what you want to believe is absolutely true, then okay.
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Magnus Anderson wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:26 pm And by the way, the word "common" means whatever its speaker wants it to mean.

There you go. Now answer my question.
And, just like the word 'common' means whatever 'a speaker' wants that word to mean, so to what the word 'definition' means, is whatever 'a speaker/listener/writer/reader wants 'that word' to mean.

'I' am, still, not yet sure why, to you, when 'I' say just about the exact same thing as you do, then 'I' am, supposedly, not answering 'your question', here.

If what words mean, to you, is whatever the speaker of those words wants 'those words' to mean, then how come when 'I' just say and write, when answering and clarifying 'your question', 'What does the word 'definition' mean?' in just about the exact same way, then, somehow, it is 'I' who is what you call 'dodging' 'your question'?
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