YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

[popeye1945]

Reality is only a distinction, one distinction among the infinite, nested within its own processes.

What you deem real is only the emergence of your own awareness of the awareness of reality. And yet this awareness is not biology itself for such a distinction is made evident before the awareness that percieves such a thing.

By what accord do you claim what is biological and what is not without mutual dependence on its opposite?

Ok, I have the feeling I am beating a dead horse here. Have a good one.

That is your subjective opinion....

A very painful DUH!

[Eodnhoj7]

Ok, I have the feeling I am beating a dead horse here. Have a good one.

That is your subjective opinion....

A very painful DUH!

So how can you claim universal truths from a purely subjective state?

[popeye1945]

That is your subjective opinion....

A very painful DUH!

So how can you claim universal truths from a purely subjective state?

What universal truths are you speaking of? The only truth is that of experience, which is always true to biology, which is doing the experiencing. Change the biology and you change the experience truth.

[Eodnhoj7]

A very painful DUH!

So how can you claim universal truths from a purely subjective state?

What universal truths are you speaking of?

That all experience is purely subjective.

That meaning is limited purely to biological applications

[popeye1945]

So how can you claim universal truths from a purely subjective state?

What universal truths are you speaking of?

That all experience is purely subjective.

That meaning is limited purely to biological applications

Tell me, what is the source of all meaning?

[Eodnhoj7]

What universal truths are you speaking of?

That all experience is purely subjective.

That meaning is limited purely to biological applications

Tell me, what is the source of all meaning?

It naturally arises from nothing and needs no foundations.

The evidence?

1. Empty your mind and notice how thoughts occur from the void within it.

2. Things emerging from the quantum vacuum in physics.

3. The change of internal and external experience by degree of the space by which change occurs.

This void is everpresent cause, across all dimensions of existence, it is the metaphorical if not literal womb from which meaning occurs.

The void is purely the potentiality of things, the unactualized state from which actuality occurs.

Meaning is in all things, it is what things are composed of.

And what is meaning? Transformation, something quite natural to all things, inherently pointing to a embedded dignity within existence.

We only deem something meaningful when we see it as transformative, something that makes us go beyond ourselves, and yet transformation happens everywhere.

[popeye1945]

That all experience is purely subjective.

That meaning is limited purely to biological applications

Tell me, what is the source of all meaning?

It naturally arises from nothing and needs no foundations.

The evidence?

1. Empty your mind and notice how thoughts occur from the void within it.

2. Things emerging from the quantum vacuum in physics.

3. The change of internal and external experience by degree of the space by which change occurs.

This void is everpresent cause, across all dimensions of existence, it is the metaphorical if not literal womb from which meaning occurs.

The void is purely the potentiality of things, the unactualized state from which actuality occurs.

Meaning is in all things, it is what things are composed of.

And what is meaning? Transformation, something quite natural to all things, inherently pointing to a embedded dignity within existence.

We only deem something meaningful when we see it as transformative, something that makes us go beyond ourselves, and yet transformation happens everywhere.

So you are saying that meaning belongs to objects, not subjective consciousness. Ask yourself what the process is that enables you to come to know a world without? What happens to you in that process, if anything?

[Eodnhoj7]

Tell me, what is the source of all meaning?

It naturally arises from nothing and needs no foundations.

The evidence?

1. Empty your mind and notice how thoughts occur from the void within it.

2. Things emerging from the quantum vacuum in physics.

3. The change of internal and external experience by degree of the space by which change occurs.

This void is everpresent cause, across all dimensions of existence, it is the metaphorical if not literal womb from which meaning occurs.

The void is purely the potentiality of things, the unactualized state from which actuality occurs.

Meaning is in all things, it is what things are composed of.

And what is meaning? Transformation, something quite natural to all things, inherently pointing to a embedded dignity within existence.

We only deem something meaningful when we see it as transformative, something that makes us go beyond ourselves, and yet transformation happens everywhere.

So you are saying that meaning belongs to objects, not subjective consciousness. Ask yourself what the process is that enables you to come to know a world without? What happens to you in that process, if anything?

No, I am saying meaning belongs to all of existence.

[popeye1945]

It naturally arises from nothing and needs no foundations.

The evidence?

1. Empty your mind and notice how thoughts occur from the void within it.

2. Things emerging from the quantum vacuum in physics.

3. The change of internal and external experience by degree of the space by which change occurs.

This void is everpresent cause, across all dimensions of existence, it is the metaphorical if not literal womb from which meaning occurs.

The void is purely the potentiality of things, the unactualized state from which actuality occurs.

Meaning is in all things, it is what things are composed of.

And what is meaning? Transformation, something quite natural to all things, inherently pointing to a embedded dignity within existence.

We only deem something meaningful when we see it as transformative, something that makes us go beyond ourselves, and yet transformation happens everywhere.

So you are saying that meaning belongs to objects, not subjective consciousness. Ask yourself what the process is that enables you to come to know a world without? What happens to you in that process, if anything?

No, I am saying meaning belongs to all of existence.

So, you are saying reality, in its entirety, is conscious?

[Eodnhoj7]

So you are saying that meaning belongs to objects, not subjective consciousness. Ask yourself what the process is that enables you to come to know a world without? What happens to you in that process, if anything?

No, I am saying meaning belongs to all of existence.

So, you are saying reality, in its entirety, is conscious?

Yes.

[popeye1945]

No, I am saying meaning belongs to all of existence.

So, you are saying reality, in its entirety, is conscious?

Yes.

You really need to work on expressing that in clearer terms. It is called Panpsychism. Google it. What I have been talking about is biological consciousness and how one comes to know the world on a subjective level. How this is for us, the only source of meaning in the world.

[Eodnhoj7]

So, you are saying reality, in its entirety, is conscious?

Yes.

You really need to work on expressing that in clearer terms. It is called Panpsychism. Google it. What I have been talking about is biological consciousness and how one comes to know the world on a subjective level. How this is for us, the only source of meaning in the world.

I am aware.

[Age]

That all experience is purely subjective.

That meaning is limited purely to biological applications

Tell me, what is the source of all meaning?

It naturally arises from nothing and needs no foundations.

Any one can claim absolutely any thing, and then just say and further claim, 'and needs no foundation'.

Which is obviously absolutely insufficient.

If you want to make a claim, here, in a philosophy forum, then at least have the actual proof and facts, first, which back up and support 'your claim' irrefutably. Otherwise you are just another saying and claiming things, based on no actual foundation at all.

The evidence?

'Evidence' is actually worthless and useless, when compared to 'proof', itself.

For example, there is 'evidence' that the Universe, Itself, is expanding, well to some of you people anyway, but this is just because to 'those people' they are blinded by their own already distorted beliefs and assumptions, and thus do not want for the 'actual irrefutable proof', for either way, to come forward and/or be presented, first.

And, considering the fact that there is 'proof' that the Universe, itself, is not expanding, this just goes to show and 'prove' that 'evidence' can really be just a misleading word, and perception.

1. Empty your mind and notice how thoughts occur from the void within it.

1. There is no such thing as 'your mind'.

2. Each and every thought comes from what 'that body' experiences. And not as you claim from some void nor from some nothing at all. 'Information' gets sent through any or all of the five body senses, where 'it' then is gathered and stored as 'thought', or some times referred to as 'knowledge'.

2. Things emerging from the quantum vacuum in physics.

Can you really not see the 'contradiction in terms', here?

1. Things can not, logically nor physically, emerge from absolutely no thing. (In fact things can not even emerge from just one thing only.)

2. There could not, logically nor physically, be a 'quantum vacuum in physics'. Full stop.

Unless, of course, you can show and prove otherwise. And, if you can, then will you?

If no, then why not?

3. The change of internal and external experience by degree of the space by which change occurs.

'This' is just another one of your nonsensical claims, and just written to sound like you know what you are talking about.

I will again suggest that if you are just going to 'look for' and 'grab' 'any word', in the hope that 'they' help you sound like you know what you are talking about and/or in the hope that 'those words' will, somehow, back up and support 'your claims', then just do not do it.

Once again, I suggest you wait till you obtain actual proof and facts, first.

This void is everpresent cause,

'This one' believes, absolutely, that every thing, including thoughts, come from 'absolutely nothing', and so then says and writes absolute absurd and ludicrous claims like, 'The void is everpresent cause'.

LOL How could 'any void', let alone 'your claimed', 'the void', cause absolutely any thing?

Explain how 'this' could even be a 'theoretical possibility'. And then after you do 'that', then, and only then, 'we' can then start to begin to 'look at' and 'see' if it could be 'physically possible'.

And, 'this' is all before 'we' even begin to 'look' and 'see' if 'it' could even be 'actually possible and does happen and occur'.

So, as some can 'see' anyway, 'this one', still, has some explaining to do, here, first.

across all dimensions of existence,

1. Just saying and writing 'everpresent' did not then mean that you 'had to' make up some ideas and present some words about some so-called 'all dimensions of existence'.

2. How many dimensions of existence do you imagine or envision there are, exactly?

it is the metaphorical if not literal womb from which meaning occurs.

'it' is utter nonsense.

1. There is no 'void', from which every thing arises from.

2. There is no 'void', which is a so-called 'everpresent cause'. (you might as well say and claim, 'Every thing came from God', and/or 'Every thing came from the big bang). If you can not back up and support 'your claim', with actual facts/irrefutable proof, then coming to a 'philosophy forum' and making 'the claim' is about the most foolish thing you could do.

3. There is only One dimension to Existence, Itself.

4. 'Meaning' comes from your human being thoughts. And, thoughts and thinking comes from what the body experiences, in this One and only eternal and infinite Universe.

5. That there is 'absolutely nothing' in between 'matter', itself, may well mean or be inferred that there is a 'quantum vacuum' between 'physical matter' but 'this' in no way means nor could it be inferred in 'the way' that you were meaning above, here. Also, and obviously, all things, including thoughts, did not come 'from' 'this area of absolute nothing'. As 'this nothing' has existed always 'with' 'physical matter', itself. And, if any thing 'comes from' anything else, then it the shape and form that all matter is 'in', at any particular moment and place, has come from 'matter', itself, in conjunction 'with' 'nothing', itself, also.

Which, again, are all irrefutable Facts, that can and will be backed up and supported with irrefutable proof. That is, if absolutely any one of you, here, has enough courage and willingness to just have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion.

The void is purely the potentiality of things, the unactualized state from which actuality occurs.

The 'void' between and around all 'matter' exists because,

1. There is no other way.

2. For the simple reason that 'things' could not come to be if 'matter', itself, was not able to be able to move about, freely.

3. What 'actually happens and occurs' could not have 'potentially be-come and actually be' if 'the void' and 'the matter' both did not always exist.

For one to say and claim that 'the void' is what caused every thing, logically, then they would also have to say and claim that 'matter' caused 'the void'. Which would be 'nonsensical' in 'the way' that you are 'trying to' claim, here.

Meaning is in all things, it is what things are composed of.

Only, if you human beings put 'meaning' in all things and claim that 'meaning' is what all things are composed of.

But, if you human beings do not do 'these things', then what you say and claim, here, is not True.

And what is meaning? Transformation, something quite natural to all things, inherently pointing to a embedded dignity within existence.

Will you elaborate?

If no, then why not?

What is 'it', exactly, that stops 'you', here?

We only deem something meaningful when we see it as transformative, something that makes us go beyond ourselves, and yet transformation happens everywhere.

If 'this' is true, then how, exactly, does 'transformation' happen in what 'you' call 'the void', exactly?