mind tha Mind

[waechter418]

The way mind processes data reflects in its offspring, the computer.
However, the coordination capabilities of latter improve continuously, whereas mind seems to have problems handling the increase of external & internal, objective & subjective data.
This is often blamed on its hardware, i.e. the physiological aspects, yet rarely on the programs that coordinate the data, despite that many of them are obviously outdated, inefficient, hijacked by emotions and/or malwares which question the capabilities and sometimes even deny the functions of mind, thus impeding the possibility to repair & update its software.
But to alter something requires knowledge and understanding of its structures and dynamics – in this case of the mind. Lamentably, the mind of Sapiens knows more about molecules and galaxies than about itself. Not because Self-knowledge is an impossible task – after all everyone spends a lifetime with/in his/her mind – but because of millennia of systematic self-denial and subjection to external, superior, eternal etc powers called god, fate and whatever else seems suitable to cover up a lack of Self-responsibility.
Admittedly, Self-response-ability can be a pain in the butt – yet it can also be a blessing, as it may entail the realisation that all (external/internal/subjective/objective) phenomenon are interrelated - and coordinated by/in the mind.

[Impenitent]

minds are just as programable as computers...

-Imp

[waechter418]

Hindu, Buddhist, Dao & Zen schools, who have been studying the mind for millenia, offer plenty of methods and techniques.

[Age]

Hindu, Buddhist, Dao & Zen schools, who have been studying the mind for millenia, offer plenty of methods and techniques.

But have any, or preferably all, of them offered up one agreed upon and accepted definition of what the 'mind' even is, exactly?

If no, then it would be a rather pointless and useless exercise to study for any amount of time, let alone for millenia, some thing that has not yet even been defined, and thus not yet even described.

It would be like claiming to have studied 'God', for example, but also never being able to describe to anyone what 'It' is, exactly, that they have been, supposedly and allegedly, studying.

[Eodnhoj7]

The way mind processes data reflects in its offspring, the computer.
However, the coordination capabilities of latter improve continuously, whereas mind seems to have problems handling the increase of external & internal, objective & subjective data.
This is often blamed on its hardware, i.e. the physiological aspects, yet rarely on the programs that coordinate the data, despite that many of them are obviously outdated, inefficient, hijacked by emotions and/or malwares which question the capabilities and sometimes even deny the functions of mind, thus impeding the possibility to repair & update its software.
But to alter something requires knowledge and understanding of its structures and dynamics – in this case of the mind. Lamentably, the mind of Sapiens knows more about molecules and galaxies than about itself. Not because Self-knowledge is an impossible task – after all everyone spends a lifetime with/in his/her mind – but because of millennia of systematic self-denial and subjection to external, superior, eternal etc powers called god, fate and whatever else seems suitable to cover up a lack of Self-responsibility.
Admittedly, Self-response-ability can be a pain in the butt – yet it can also be a blessing, as it may entail the realisation that all (external/internal/subjective/objective) phenomenon are interrelated - and coordinated by/in the mind.

The deepest fear is the fear of the self.

[Age]

The way mind processes data reflects in its offspring, the computer.
However, the coordination capabilities of latter improve continuously, whereas mind seems to have problems handling the increase of external & internal, objective & subjective data.
This is often blamed on its hardware, i.e. the physiological aspects, yet rarely on the programs that coordinate the data, despite that many of them are obviously outdated, inefficient, hijacked by emotions and/or malwares which question the capabilities and sometimes even deny the functions of mind, thus impeding the possibility to repair & update its software.
But to alter something requires knowledge and understanding of its structures and dynamics – in this case of the mind. Lamentably, the mind of Sapiens knows more about molecules and galaxies than about itself. Not because Self-knowledge is an impossible task – after all everyone spends a lifetime with/in his/her mind – but because of millennia of systematic self-denial and subjection to external, superior, eternal etc powers called god, fate and whatever else seems suitable to cover up a lack of Self-responsibility.
Admittedly, Self-response-ability can be a pain in the butt – yet it can also be a blessing, as it may entail the realisation that all (external/internal/subjective/objective) phenomenon are interrelated - and coordinated by/in the mind.

The deepest fear is the fear of the self.

If 'you' just stopped doing Wrong, in Life, as well as just stopped expressing Falsehoods and lying, then 'you' would also stop having the fear of 'self', or what 'you' call, and claim, is 'the deepest fear'.

[waechter418]

“Rule your mind or your mind rules you” (Buddha)

Buddha derived his concepts of the mind from introspection (know thyself), an operation modus apparently lost to the Occidental civilisation whose scientists try to confine mind into their cerebrums and to explain its enormous capacities with electrical & chemical activities.

[Age]

“Rule your mind or your mind rules you” (Buddha)

Buddha derived his concepts of the mind from introspection (know thyself), an operation modus apparently lost to the Occidental civilisation whose scientists try to confine mind into their cerebrums and to explain its enormous capacities with electrical & chemical activities.

If "buddha" did actual come to know thy Self, then "buddha" would have have already known that there is no 'your mind'.

What the actual saying is, which makes perfect sense to Life, and to Reality, Itself, is:

Rule, or have control over, the 'thoughts' arising, or 'those thoughts' (and emotions) will control over 'the misbehaving'.

And, as always, if absolutely any one would like to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion, here, then let 'us' begin.

[waechter418]

"According to Tibetan Buddhist teachings, the world is an aggregate of particles. The particles are in perpetual motion – they manifest instantaneous and contact the senses as flashes of energy – mind interprets the reactions of the senses.
All our perceptions, those to which we give names and assign form, colour, or no matter what attributes, are nothing but interpretations of a fugitive contact by one of our senses with a stimulus." *
(Buddhist schools treat mind as 6th sense.)

* "Tibetan Buddhist teachings" - Alexandra David Neel