Strange dream involving shapeshifters

[Maia]

Does anyone remember a TV series called Last of the Summer Wine? My parents loved it when I was little, but I always found it stultifyingly boring and depressing, and my heart sank whenever I heard its theme tune. Well, for some reason, the dream I had this morning started there, but soon veered off. One of the old men in it was reminiscing about his youth, about a mysterious girl he once knew, and fell in love with, but then she disappeared. So a group of us decided to try and find out what happened to her for him, which involved hiring a minibus and driving up north with him. This is where any similarity to the TV series ended, because there were also aliens involved, who had infiltrated the earth as shapeshifters. That, however, went nowhere in particular, and a bit later I was at what I assume was a college, in the canteen, talking to two girls. One of them asked me if I came there on my bike, which is a pretty odd sort of question to ask me, all things considered, but I said no, I only lived a 15-minute walk away. Which is how far my place of work is away in real life, but the building I was in was nothing like the leisure centre.

[Phil8659]

Does anyone remember a TV series called Last of the Summer Wine? My parents loved it when I was little, but I always found it stultifyingly boring and depressing, and my heart sank whenever I heard its theme tune. Well, for some reason, the dream I had this morning started there, but soon veered off. One of the old men in it was reminiscing about his youth, about a mysterious girl he once knew, and fell in love with, but then she disappeared. So a group of us decided to try and find out what happened to her for him, which involved hiring a minibus and driving up north with him. This is where any similarity to the TV series ended, because there were also aliens involved, who had infiltrated the earth as shapeshifters. That, however, went nowhere in particular, and a bit later I was at what I assume was a college, in the canteen, talking to two girls. One of them asked me if I came there on my bike, which is a pretty odd sort of question to ask me, all things considered, but I said no, I only lived a 15-minute walk away. Which is how far my place of work is away in real life, but the building I was in was nothing like the leisure centre.

Okay, let me share some experience with you. There are two kinds of dreams, one you are actually passive, the other you are active and a response to your active state may actually happen.

So, here is how you learn that dreams can be used for communication with something which is not you at all, and it will make you think.

In order to start a conversation with something not human, is to formulate a very clear question. Focus on it, and do not let it slip your mind. It is called lucid dreaming. You may then have a dream which is completely to the point, but it is metaphorical. You may be able to read them just like some of the prophets once did. I think that eventually it will be recognized a school which is particular to your own psychology. The information will actually be useless to others.
All a mind can do is read, learn, and write. An evolved mind can learn to read dreams, and it will surprise you that some information rendered there will be impossible for you to have known.
The reason that metaphor is used is because it involves, what Plato noted, the ability to see the similar idea in the many examples, or pattern recognition. All systems of grammar depend upon it in order to reason.

[Maia]

Does anyone remember a TV series called Last of the Summer Wine? My parents loved it when I was little, but I always found it stultifyingly boring and depressing, and my heart sank whenever I heard its theme tune. Well, for some reason, the dream I had this morning started there, but soon veered off. One of the old men in it was reminiscing about his youth, about a mysterious girl he once knew, and fell in love with, but then she disappeared. So a group of us decided to try and find out what happened to her for him, which involved hiring a minibus and driving up north with him. This is where any similarity to the TV series ended, because there were also aliens involved, who had infiltrated the earth as shapeshifters. That, however, went nowhere in particular, and a bit later I was at what I assume was a college, in the canteen, talking to two girls. One of them asked me if I came there on my bike, which is a pretty odd sort of question to ask me, all things considered, but I said no, I only lived a 15-minute walk away. Which is how far my place of work is away in real life, but the building I was in was nothing like the leisure centre.

Okay, let me share some experience with you. There are two kinds of dreams, one you are actually passive, the other you are active and a response to your active state may actually happen.

So, here is how you learn that dreams can be used for communication with something which is not you at all, and it will make you think.

In order to start a conversation with something not human, is to formulate a very clear question. Focus on it, and do not let it slip your mind. It is called lucid dreaming. You may then have a dream which is completely to the point, but it is metaphorical. You may be able to read them just like some of the prophets once did. I think that eventually it will be recognized a school which is particular to your own psychology. The information will actually be useless to others.
All a mind can do is read, learn, and write. An evolved mind can learn to read dreams, and it will surprise you that some information rendered there will be impossible for you to have known.
The reason that metaphor is used is because it involves, what Plato noted, the ability to see the similar idea in the many examples, or pattern recognition. All systems of grammar depend upon it in order to reason.

I've had lucid dreams, or at least parts of dreams that are lucid, in that I've known I was dreaming, but the dream still continues, and I can control my actions in it. This usually happens towards the end of a dream, when I presume I'm already waking up a bit. The dream then tends to become a bit repetitive, and the important part of it, that is, its emotional signature, fades away.

I'm happy to accept that dreams can be prophetic, though I've only had one, that I can recall, that seems inexplicable in any other way. I was 14 and it was nearly the end of term at school, and everyone was looking forward to going home for the summer (it was a boarding school). I dreamt that I was crawling through the rubble of destroyed buildings on my hands and knees, with the bricks and sticking up bits of broken glass, metal and wood cutting open the bare skin on my hands and knees. Then, a week or so later, when I was home, a tornado hit my home city, an extremely rare occurrence in the UK, and a pretty big one too, though I doubt that the devastation it caused was anything like in my dream. Some of it was fairly close to us, though.

[Phil8659]

I look at it this way, all of what we call language, but is properly called grammar, sole function is for predicting life supporting behavior. Right now we cannot do it, but it is an indication that it is where we are evolving to. So, I learnt there a long time ago, but really, no matter how much I learn, I will never reach those levels I was introduced to, that is the real prophecy, not the particular things we are shown, but we are being shown examples of advanced linguistic ability which mankind is traveling to.

Some people go off the deep end when they realize that certain dreams cannot possibly have been produced by us. This allows a lot of people to spiral off into the bannanoshphere of ridiculous fantasies, like they got special power, or that they are chosen of god, but it is just a simple observable train of reasoning. We will become more competent, as a species but not so much individually.

If you can follow it through, it is as both the Bible and Plato stated, it is our advances in literacy, judgment which is the salvation of mankind. Not magic, or a special pooka, but we are, a life support system still evolving to do our own work.

[Maia]

I look at it this way, all of what we call language, but is properly called grammar, sole function is for predicting life supporting behavior. Right now we cannot do it, but it is an indication that it is where we are evolving to. So, I learnt there a long time ago, but really, no matter how much I learn, I will never reach those levels I was introduced to, that is the real prophecy, not the particular things we are shown, but we are being shown examples of advanced linguistic ability which mankind is traveling to.

Some people go off the deep end when they realize that certain dreams cannot possibly have been produced by us. This allows a lot of people to spiral off into the bannanoshphere of ridiculous fantasies, like they got special power, or that they are chosen of god, but it is just a simple observable train of reasoning. We will become more competent, as a species but not so much individually.

I think it's to do with emotion. If prophetic dreams are possible, then we are somehow accessing our own future emotional state, on hearing the news of something. And even if it's not prophetic, the most important part of a dream is it's emotional signature, as I call it, which is also the most difficult part to describe.

[promethean75]

It's because you're reading those damn serial killer novels all the time, Maia. Your data input memory banks have no other material to work with when your brain is in a dreaming state. It can't pull anything from visual memory, so it's gotta work with your daily tactile experiences (including sounds) and the ideas you get from the imaginary realities in the novels you read. So, if you're reading scary stuff, your brain's gonna use that material.

Try some Clive Cussler, and you may very well become the captain of an armored skiff racing across the black sea carrying top-secret information about hidden uranium enrichment sites in Antarctica. Don't you think that would be much more fun than being chased by an enraged axe wielding shapeshifting teenage girl in a tornado?

[Maia]

It's because you're reading those damn serial killer novels all the time, Maia. Your data input memory banks have no other material to work with when your brain is in a dreaming state. It can't pull anything from visual memory, so it's gotta work with your daily tactile experiences (including sounds) and the ideas you get from the imaginary realities in the novels you read. So, if you're reading scary stuff, your brain's gonna use that material.

Try some Clive Cussler, and you may very well become the captain of an armored skiff racing across the black sea carrying top-secret information about hidden uranium enrichment sites in Antarctica. Don't you think that would be much more fun than being chased by an enraged axe wielding teenage girl?

My dreams seem to come in phases. I'll have a few days in a row when I remember them, then often a long gap, and I'm not really sure what sets it off. It's true that my brain is definitely hungry for input and will use just about anything that it has, hence, for example, the memory of that old TV programme, though I've no idea why it dredged that up as I doubt if I've thought about it for years.

I'm pretty sure I've read at least one Clive Cussler novel, quite some years ago and I can't remember much about it. I'm currently reading one called City of Gold by Anton Gill, where the villains are trying to find Eldorado to flood the market with gold and crash the world economy. There are some historical flashbacks to the expeditions of Sir Walter Raleigh, too.

[Phil8659]

I look at it this way, all of what we call language, but is properly called grammar, sole function is for predicting life supporting behavior. Right now we cannot do it, but it is an indication that it is where we are evolving to. So, I learnt there a long time ago, but really, no matter how much I learn, I will never reach those levels I was introduced to, that is the real prophecy, not the particular things we are shown, but we are being shown examples of advanced linguistic ability which mankind is traveling to.

Some people go off the deep end when they realize that certain dreams cannot possibly have been produced by us. This allows a lot of people to spiral off into the bannanoshphere of ridiculous fantasies, like they got special power, or that they are chosen of god, but it is just a simple observable train of reasoning. We will become more competent, as a species but not so much individually.

I think it's to do with emotion. If prophetic dreams are possible, then we are somehow accessing our own future emotional state, on hearing the news of something. And even if it's not prophetic, the most important part of a dream is it's emotional signature, as I call it, which is also the most difficult part to describe.

Emotions we cannot actually share, however, Plato was correct, the most primitive root of our function as a mind is pleasure and pain, however, they are the object of our computational ability. If we did not have pleasure and pain, we would not be motivated, so, the root of grammar, grammatical processing is all about emotion.

It works out that our entire job as a mind is for emotional management which is accomplished through literacy. It is a very simple relationship, however people tend to spin off into digressions and confuse themselves. There is good and bad pleasure, and good and bad pain. The computation is knowing how it aids or detracts us from being able to live. We manage emotion, or pleasure and pain, in order to survive, our ability to manage it is our fitness, or lack thereof.

[Maia]

Since I tend to have a string of dreams for a few days in a row, I was expecting to have one this morning, and I did, but it was much shorter and less intense. Some workmen came to my door and asked for directions, and I said turn first left, three times. The next thing I knew I was in their van with them, but instead of going left, left and left they just carried on without turning, after leaving my road, and I kept on telling them to let me out, which they eventually did, but I didn't know where I was.

Turning first left three times happens to be the first part of the route I take when walking to a friend's house, but I'm not sure if this has any significance, and in any case, we didn't go that way. Instead I ended up in a place I wasn't familiar with, which isn't particularly uncommon in my dreams, though it's been quite a while since I've had one like that.

[Phil8659]

Since I tend to have a string of dreams for a few days in a row, I was expecting to have one this morning, and I did, but it was much shorter and less intense. Some workmen came to my door and asked for directions, and I said turn first left, three times. The next thing I knew I was in their van with them, but instead of going left, left and left they just carried on without turning, after leaving my road, and I kept on telling them to let me out, which they eventually did, but I didn't know where I was.

Turning first left three times happens to be the first part of the route I take when walking to a friend's house, but I'm not sure if this has any significance, and in any case, we didn't go that way. Instead I ended up in a place I wasn't familiar with, which isn't particularly uncommon in my dreams, though it's been quite a while since I've had one like that.

You will figure it out. Not that hard.

I ran across a tv series claiming to be sci fy, Helix, so tried to watch it. Could not stand it, some asshole tried to make a legit sci fy out of zombies. I deleted it.

[Maia]

Since I tend to have a string of dreams for a few days in a row, I was expecting to have one this morning, and I did, but it was much shorter and less intense. Some workmen came to my door and asked for directions, and I said turn first left, three times. The next thing I knew I was in their van with them, but instead of going left, left and left they just carried on without turning, after leaving my road, and I kept on telling them to let me out, which they eventually did, but I didn't know where I was.

Turning first left three times happens to be the first part of the route I take when walking to a friend's house, but I'm not sure if this has any significance, and in any case, we didn't go that way. Instead I ended up in a place I wasn't familiar with, which isn't particularly uncommon in my dreams, though it's been quite a while since I've had one like that.

You will figure it out. Not that hard.

I ran across a tv series claiming to be sci fy, Helix, so tried to watch it. Could not stand it, some asshole tried to make a legit sci fy out of zombies. I deleted it.

It's a fear of getting lost, being in an unfamiliar place. Pretty obvious, really.

Zombies are really boring.

[Phil8659]

Since I tend to have a string of dreams for a few days in a row, I was expecting to have one this morning, and I did, but it was much shorter and less intense. Some workmen came to my door and asked for directions, and I said turn first left, three times. The next thing I knew I was in their van with them, but instead of going left, left and left they just carried on without turning, after leaving my road, and I kept on telling them to let me out, which they eventually did, but I didn't know where I was.

Turning first left three times happens to be the first part of the route I take when walking to a friend's house, but I'm not sure if this has any significance, and in any case, we didn't go that way. Instead I ended up in a place I wasn't familiar with, which isn't particularly uncommon in my dreams, though it's been quite a while since I've had one like that.

You will figure it out. Not that hard.

I ran across a tv series claiming to be sci fy, Helix, so tried to watch it. Could not stand it, some asshole tried to make a legit sci fy out of zombies. I deleted it.

It's a fear of getting lost, being in an unfamiliar place. Pretty obvious, really.

Zombies are really boring.

You might be making a common mistake in reading a dream. The function of a mind is what? Predictive behavior, and as dreams are personal, they are in regard to your own. They are useless to other people.

[Maia]

You will figure it out. Not that hard.

I ran across a tv series claiming to be sci fy, Helix, so tried to watch it. Could not stand it, some asshole tried to make a legit sci fy out of zombies. I deleted it.

It's a fear of getting lost, being in an unfamiliar place. Pretty obvious, really.

Zombies are really boring.

You might be making a common mistake in reading a dream. The function of a mind is what? Predictive behavior, and as dreams are personal, they are in regard to your own. They are useless to other people.

I suppose there's also the point that it's never a good idea to get into a van with strange men. I didn't, though. One minute I was talking to them at my front door, the next I was in the van with them.

[Phil8659]

I suppose there's also the point that it's never a good idea to get into a van with strange men. I didn't, though. One minute I was talking to them at my front door, the next I was in the van with them.

If you desire to learn there, then you have to focus on just one question, this prevents you from spinning off trying to guess. It also helps you focus.
learn to ask pertinent questions. If you are answered, the answers are for you alone.

[Maia]

I suppose there's also the point that it's never a good idea to get into a van with strange men. I didn't, though. One minute I was talking to them at my front door, the next I was in the van with them.

If you desire to learn there, then you have to focus on just one question, this prevents you from spinning off trying to guess. It also helps you focus.
learn to ask pertinent questions. If you are answered, the answers are for you alone.

Ok, fair enough, but usually I don't even have to guess. The answer is obvious.