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How to realise you are God

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The sound of one hand clapping" is not a literal sound but a Zen koan, a paradoxical question used in Buddhism to challenge rational thinking and provoke a deeper, intuitive understanding of reality. The "answer" is not a single, definitive sound, but an experience of awareness that transcends logical thought, as clapping, by its nature, requires the interaction of two hands to produce a sound.

What it is:
A koan: A paradoxical riddle or question in Zen Buddhist practice meant to exhaust the intellect and promote sudden enlightenment.
A thought experiment: Designed to break through conscious thought and preconceived notions to reveal a different way of perceiving reality.

Why it's important:
Challenging logic: By presenting an impossible scenario, it highlights the limitations of purely logical or intellectual approaches to understanding.

Encouraging intuition: The struggle to solve the koan is intended to clear the mind, making it more receptive to intuitive insights rather than rational answers.

Highlighting interconnectedness: The act of clapping requires two hands, symbolizing the need for interaction and relationship to create something.

What is the answer?
There isn't one specific answer that can be articulated through words or logic.
The "sound" is the experience of breaking free from the limitations of the ego and the intellect.
It could be described as the realization that some truths lie beyond the dualistic mind that seeks to understand everything through opposites.
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But, you are not God. 'you', individually, are but just one of many human beings. 'you', collectively, are human beings. Which, obviously, neither are God.

So, how to realise that 'I' am God, is to understand that contrary to egotistical beliefs there are not many minds, answers to all things can be expressed in and with words, nothing is beyond Mind, Itself, and that it is not Mind that is dualistic but it is the brain that needed to create a dualist or separated illusion in order to be able to comprehend and make sense of 'the world' and 'the Universe' in which it has found itself within.

Even though 'I' am eternal 'I' needed the human brain to gather and store knowledge so that 'I' could be heard, recognized, and accepted for 'Who 'I" am' and also to come to know thy Self.
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Reason and logic seem fine to me. The alternative is to believe things that aren't reasonable or logical to believe in.
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 3:53 pm Reason and logic seem fine to me. The alternative is to believe things that aren't reasonable or logical to believe in.
When you don’t exist what is there to believe ?

Some philosophical perspectives argue that the “self”or “ego”is an illusion created by the brain which highlights a philosophical paradox: to believe, one must first exist to hold that belief. In the absence of existence, the capacity to believe is absent, leaving only the reality of non-being.


Being doesn’t exist. Existence is being. Being is just another concept for God.
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The concept of "God believing in itself" is not a theological concept addressed in most mainstream religions, as faith and belief are typically considered human actions directed toward a divine being, not something a self-existent God would require. Instead, God is described as self-existent, eternally present, and the uncaused cause of all things, implying a state of being that doesn't require belief for its validation.

Theological Concepts of God's Existence
Self-Existence: God is understood as existing independently, without beginning or end, and without needing to be created or sustained by anything else.

Self-Sufficiency: As the eternal, uncreated source of all things, God stands outside of time and doesn't require external validation, such as faith from a being, to affirm its own existence.

Eternal Nature: God has always been and will always be, a concept that makes the idea of belief necessary to define God's reality superfluous.

Why "Belief" Is Inapplicable to God
Faith as a Human Act: Faith is generally understood as a human response, a trust or conviction in something that is not fully seen or known.
God as the Object of Faith: God is the entity that people have faith in, not the entity that possesses faith in itself in the human sense of the word.

Monotheistic View: Major monotheistic religions like Christianity and Judaism describe God as the ultimate reality, a supreme being whose existence is not contingent on a declaration of belief from any other entity.
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Realizing a concept is but a shackle...inevitably, but not at first. A concept is but a raft to get across a river, when the river is crossed the raft is best left behind.

Assuming, and this assumption is quite safe, that God transcends being the only realization of God is the act of observing being for what it is. It is in awareness that God is present and this presence is in degrees as awareness is in degrees for awareness occurs through perceptual patterns which inevitably shift.
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Fairy wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 5:41 pm The concept of "God believing in itself" is not a theological concept addressed in most mainstream religions, as faith and belief are typically considered human actions directed toward a divine being, not something a self-existent God would require. Instead, God is described as self-existent, eternally present, and the uncaused cause of all things, implying a state of being that doesn't require belief for its validation.

Theological Concepts of God's Existence
Self-Existence: God is understood as existing independently, without beginning or end, and without needing to be created or sustained by anything else.

Self-Sufficiency: As the eternal, uncreated source of all things, God stands outside of time and doesn't require external validation, such as faith from a being, to affirm its own existence.

Eternal Nature: God has always been and will always be, a concept that makes the idea of belief necessary to define God's reality superfluous.

Why "Belief" Is Inapplicable to God
Faith as a Human Act: Faith is generally understood as a human response, a trust or conviction in something that is not fully seen or known.
God as the Object of Faith: God is the entity that people have faith in, not the entity that possesses faith in itself in the human sense of the word.

Monotheistic View: Major monotheistic religions like Christianity and Judaism describe God as the ultimate reality, a supreme being whose existence is not contingent on a declaration of belief from any other entity.
So, all of 'these things', once again, points to the Universe, It-Self, and, to the Mind, It-Self.

What needs 'belief' are you human beings in 'a belief in thy Self', that you can and will accomplish any and every thing that you want for "yourselves", individually and collectively. After all it was only after 'you', human beings, had 'faith' and/or 'belief' 'in' "yourselves" that you could accomplish and/or create absolutely every 'creature comfort' and everything else, that you human beings have created for "yourselves" when you did actually accomplish and/or create them for "yourselves".

'This', 'belief in one Self', individually and collectively, also applied to how, and when, 'the Truly peaceful world', for every one as One, began to be created, and was actually accomplished as well, I will now add, here.

There is really One only 'belief' that each and all of you are better off having, and that is, ' The belief in "yourselves" ', only, and fully. Every other 'belief' is completely unnecessary, and are all in fact what is one of the major leading contributors to your continual downhill spiral to your demise.

And, that is why 'I' used the word, 'believe' and/or 'belief', in books like 'the bible', 'the koran', et cetera. you adult human beings, however, and as usual twisted and distorted 'the intention' behind 'My words', to mean 'believe some thing is absolutely true', and then, literally, fight and/or debate 'over it', 'until the death', as some would say. All of 'these beliefs' also are, exactly, what is stopping and preventing you all from learning, seeing, and understanding the actual Truth of things, in Life. Which is why all of you human beings, here, when this is being written, are taking so, so, so long to 'catch up', and get HERE, NOW.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:00 am Realizing a concept is but a shackle...inevitably, but not at first. A concept is but a raft to get across a river, when the river is crossed the raft is best left behind.
So, 'this one' is 'now' claiming that if any of you come to concept, which is irrefutably True and thus fits in, perfectly, with the actual Truths, in Life, then just 'leave It behind', as well, and then just keep 'moving along'.
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:00 am Assuming, and this assumption is quite safe, that God transcends being the only realization of God is the act of observing being for what it is. It is in awareness that God is present and this presence is in degrees as awareness is in degrees for awareness occurs through perceptual patterns which inevitably shift.
And, never ever, ever 'leave 'this concept' behind', right "eognhoj7"?
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:00 am Realizing a concept is but a shackle...inevitably, but not at first. A concept is but a raft to get across a river, when the river is crossed the raft is best left behind.

Assuming, and this assumption is quite safe, that God transcends being the only realization of God is the act of observing being for what it is. It is in awareness that God is present and this presence is in degrees as awareness is in degrees for awareness occurs through perceptual patterns which inevitably shift.
👍 Nice .. I like your (Y) our) raft across the river point.

Kind of similar to when you get the message you can hang up the phone.
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Fairy wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:59 am The sound of one hand clapping" is not a literal sound but a Zen koan, a paradoxical question used in Buddhism to challenge rational thinking and provoke a deeper, intuitive understanding of reality. The "answer" is not a single, definitive sound, but an experience of awareness that transcends logical thought, as clapping, by its nature, requires the interaction of two hands to produce a sound...
actually it is two sounds- popping the cuff (gi not shoulder) as well as the sound of a slap...

-Imp
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Ay up Gods, I'm God. No solipsist me!
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The feeling of godliness in man comes from the privilege of being able to feel like he has free will, and his knowing that he can try to do whatever isn't physically impossible for him with nothing to stop him but greater brute force (gravity, handcuffs, dehydration, a brain tumor, runaway cab, etc).

It is enough to have the freedom to try and do whatever one desires - one doesn’t have to succeed, for it goes without saying that there are forces acting to restrain you. That much is expected. The proper and final, highest feeling of godliness would belong to the good-natured barbarian who lived in a perpetual state of war.
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Thoughts cannot be unthought.

‘Cannot’ is the block to understanding.
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There’s no such thing as a human, it is a concept known that knows nothing.

That’s God, dreaming it is every thing, and no thing.

This cannot be not happening. This cannot never not be here.

This is never not here. Nothing is preventing everything from happening.
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What just happened to you was what we call a silvian fissure static event. That's when a very small matrix of possible grammar combinations shorts itself out, and there's a frantic back and forth of unintelligible attempts to produce something meaningful. The region in the brain literally goes 'bzzzzzzt... pppphhh' while scrambling to avoid total gate control shut down... but you can't register the event without brain monitoring equipment.

As this happens, the person just kinda sits there and stares at something like a monk that has wizdomz way beyond anything anyone can imagine.
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