YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

[Fairy]

Yet, 'you' once again, contradictory, claimed that 'you' wrote it. But, 'now', 'you' are saying and wrote, 'I wrote it'.

As can be very clearly seen and proved above, here.

Really "fairy", why do you contradict "your" 'self' so often, here?

I created contradiction.

That you create contradictions, here, is very obvious. What is also just as obvious is that you do this because you, still, have just not yet found the right words.

Do, once again, if 'you' would like some help to find the rights words, which will actual prove, irrefutably, what you have 'seen', and are believing, here, absolutely True, Right, Accurate, and Correct, then, as always, 'I' am more than happy to work with 'you' and help 'you'.

After all what you know, internally, is irrefutable. However, with 'the way' you are 'trying to' express 'that', combined with your ill-gotten wording, you are not going to succeed, here.

As you keep proving over and over, again, here.

Who in the actual hell do you imagine you are talking to here?

Right now you're actually creating a duality between real and imaginary.


When you quit boxing with shadows, only the light of truth will reveal itself to you.


How to communicate with "others" when you see "Oneness"?

Show me how then, show me? Start a new thread Age teaching everyone on this forum
How to communicate with "others" when you see "Oneness"

Make sure you tell people not to leave comments and replies. Tell them to just listen to the right words that you are going to provide, to show them how it’s done properly.

[Age]

I created contradiction.

That you create contradictions, here, is very obvious. What is also just as obvious is that you do this because you, still, have just not yet found the right words.

Do, once again, if 'you' would like some help to find the rights words, which will actual prove, irrefutably, what you have 'seen', and are believing, here, absolutely True, Right, Accurate, and Correct, then, as always, 'I' am more than happy to work with 'you' and help 'you'.

After all what you know, internally, is irrefutable. However, with 'the way' you are 'trying to' express 'that', combined with your ill-gotten wording, you are not going to succeed, here.

As you keep proving over and over, again, here.

Who in the actual hell do you imagine you are talking to here?

Right now you're actually creating a duality between real and imaginary.


When you quit boxing with shadows, only the light of truth will reveal itself to you.


How to communicate with "others" when you see "Oneness"?

Show me how then, show me? Start a new thread Age teaching everyone on this forum

Have you forgotten that 'I' am not necessarily, here, to teach you posters any thing. Remember, 'I' am just, here, to learn how to communicate with 'you' human beings better.

How to communicate with "others" when you see "Oneness"

When, and if, 'you' also learn how the Mind and the brain work, then 'you', too, will also understand how it is the 'brain', which causes and creates an illusory effect of 'separateness' and/or 'duality'.

Now, seeing 'Oneness', while also knowing how the illusion of 'duality' arises, means that 'the way' you human beings communicate with "each other" is, again, because of 'the way' the 'brain' works. So, once 'you' also learn and understand how the 'brain' actually works, especially so in conjunction with the 'belief-system', itself, then how to communicate with 'others' is really very simple and very easy indeed, even while seeing 'Oneness', Itself.

Make sure you tell people not to leave comments and replies.

Why?

Doing so would defeat the very purpose of learning, and of understanding, itself.

Tell them to just listen to the right words that you are going to provide, to show them how it’s done properly.

Why do you have such a, what you human beings call, 'negative' attitude and perspective, here?

Once 'you' find, and know, 'the answer', then 'this' will help 'you', considerably, in learning how to gather and find the Right words, in Life, by "yourself".

And again, for the slow of learning, here, it would not matter if 'you' nor 'I' presented the Right words, in the Right places, here. See, while one ha,s or is holding, a belief, then they are not able to see and recognize the actual Truth of things, in Life. 'They' will only 'see' what agrees with and aligns with their 'current' belief/s.

[Gary Childress]

You are not an individual; you are an anonymous generational pattern, shaped and defined by the environmental context that awaited you. This process is what is called identity, and it is yours and your ancestors' historical experiences of context. It is the pains and the pleasures you and your ancestors experience in context that form a sense of identity. You are a reactionary creature defined by past generations, the natural world, and the cosmos, imperfect and ever-changing. As a reactionary organism, you do not have free will; past generations and the influences of the natural world play you like a fine instrument as part of the larger whole, and your reactions are part of the whole. Only in the context of a group, a society, are you an individual; otherwise, you are a functioning part of a whole, and your functioning is your belonging; in death, your essence returns to the whole.

Can't we be "individuals" who are "anonymous generational patterns, shaped and defined by the enviornmental context that awaited us"? It seems to me that the word "individual" has it's relevance when referring to individual people. Unless the mystics and gurus are right and we are some kind of "cosmic oneness" (whatever that means).

[Fairy]

Unless the mystics and gurus are right and we are some kind of "cosmic oneness" (whatever that means).

Whatever that means is whatever you want it to mean. You created meaning.

Why don’t you just find out by doing some serious deep self introspection into the nature of reality.

Laziness is for the weak.

[Gary Childress]

Unless the mystics and gurus are right and we are some kind of "cosmic oneness" (whatever that means).

Whatever that means is whatever you want it to mean. You created meaning.

Why don’t you just find out by doing some serious deep self introspection into the nature of reality.

Laziness is for the weak.

Sounds like a bunch of hand waving BS to me. Mystics tend to talk about "oneness" a lot and everyone else just plays along, probably not knowing what the hell they are talking about.

[Fairy]

Unless the mystics and gurus are right and we are some kind of "cosmic oneness" (whatever that means).

Whatever that means is whatever you want it to mean. You created meaning.

Why don’t you just find out by doing some serious deep self introspection into the nature of reality.

Laziness is for the weak.

Sounds like a bunch of hand waving BS to me. Mystics tend to talk about "oneness" a lot and everyone else just plays along, probably not knowing what the hell they are talking about.

Like I said, try finding out what the hell you are talking about before engaging your lips. Self introspection, start there, do that first. If you don’t do the work, nothing works.

It’s impossible for man to learn what he thinks he already knows.

[Gary Childress]

Whatever that means is whatever you want it to mean. You created meaning.

Why don’t you just find out by doing some serious deep self introspection into the nature of reality.

Laziness is for the weak.

Sounds like a bunch of hand waving BS to me. Mystics tend to talk about "oneness" a lot and everyone else just plays along, probably not knowing what the hell they are talking about.

Like I said, try finding out what the hell you are talking about before engaging your lips. Self introspection, start there, do that first. If you don’t do the work, nothing works.

It’s impossible for man to learn what he thinks he already knows.

Yeah. I'll slice open my cranium and look inside. Does that count as "introspection"?

[Fairy]

Sounds like a bunch of hand waving BS to me. Mystics tend to talk about "oneness" a lot and everyone else just plays along, probably not knowing what the hell they are talking about.

Like I said, try finding out what the hell you are talking about before engaging your lips. Self introspection, start there, do that first. If you don’t do the work, nothing works.

It’s impossible for man to learn what he thinks he already knows.

Yeah. I'll slice open my cranium and look inside. Does that count as "introspection"?

I’m sure you’ll figure it out without such a dramatic introspection. You’ve got to really really want truth.

[Gary Childress]

Like I said, try finding out what the hell you are talking about before engaging your lips. Self introspection, start there, do that first. If you don’t do the work, nothing works.

It’s impossible for man to learn what he thinks he already knows.

Yeah. I'll slice open my cranium and look inside. Does that count as "introspection"?

I’m sure you’ll figure it out without such a dramatic introspection. You’ve got to really really want truth.

Been there, done that. No need to repeat.

[Fairy]

Yeah. I'll slice open my cranium and look inside. Does that count as "introspection"?

I’m sure you’ll figure it out without such a dramatic introspection. You’ve got to really really want truth.

Been there, done that. No need to repeat.

If you have not realised truth yet, then it’s all your fault. Find it yourself and quit moaning and feeling sorry for yourself, real actual truth is not for the weak of heart. You are still clearly clueless.

[Gary Childress]

I’m sure you’ll figure it out without such a dramatic introspection. You’ve got to really really want truth.

Been there, done that. No need to repeat.

If you have not realised truth yet, then it’s all your fault. Find it yourself and quit moaning and feeling sorry for yourself, real actual truth is not for the weak of heart. You are still clearly clueless.

Yeah. OK, boss.

[popeye1945]

You are not an individual; you are an anonymous generational pattern, shaped and defined by the environmental context that awaited you. This process is what is called identity, and it is yours and your ancestors' historical experiences of context. It is the pains and the pleasures you and your ancestors experience in context that form a sense of identity. You are a reactionary creature defined by past generations, the natural world, and the cosmos, imperfect and ever-changing. As a reactionary organism, you do not have free will; past generations and the influences of the natural world play you like a fine instrument as part of the larger whole, and your reactions are part of the whole. Only in the context of a group, a society, are you an individual; otherwise, you are a functioning part of a whole, and your functioning is your belonging; in death, your essence returns to the whole.

Can't we be "individuals" who are "anonymous generational patterns, shaped and defined by the enviornmental context that awaited us"? It seems to me that the word "individual" has it's relevance when referring to individual people. Unless the mystics and gurus are right and we are some kind of "cosmic oneness" (whatever that means).

Hi Gary!

The world is one of duality; thus, an individual requires a community, a cluster of patterns that gives one significance. Your behaviours within this context of patterns set you up as an individual, making or disrupting the harmony of the larger pattern. In this way, in this context, you cannot not be an individual, you have responsibilities to the larger pattern called society. There is one thing many religions get right, but abuse, and that is we are part of something larger than ourselves, the great mystery that they claim to know, in childish fantasy mythologies meant to comfort ignorance.

[Eodnhoj7]

You are not an individual; you are an anonymous generational pattern, shaped and defined by the environmental context that awaited you. This process is what is called identity, and it is yours and your ancestors' historical experiences of context. It is the pains and the pleasures you and your ancestors experience in context that form a sense of identity. You are a reactionary creature defined by past generations, the natural world, and the cosmos, imperfect and ever-changing. As a reactionary organism, you do not have free will; past generations and the influences of the natural world play you like a fine instrument as part of the larger whole, and your reactions are part of the whole. Only in the context of a group, a society, are you an individual; otherwise, you are a functioning part of a whole, and your functioning is your belonging; in death, your essence returns to the whole.

Can't we be "individuals" who are "anonymous generational patterns, shaped and defined by the enviornmental context that awaited us"? It seems to me that the word "individual" has it's relevance when referring to individual people. Unless the mystics and gurus are right and we are some kind of "cosmic oneness" (whatever that means).

Hi Gary!

The world is one of duality; thus, an individual requires a community, a cluster of patterns that gives one significance. Your behaviours within this context of patterns set you up as an individual, making or disrupting the harmony of the larger pattern. In this way, in this context, you cannot not be an individual, you have responsibilities to the larger pattern called society. There is one thing many religions get right, but abuse, and that is we are part of something larger than ourselves, the great mystery that they claim to know, in childish fantasy mythologies meant to comfort ignorance.

All groups converge upon an individual leader.

[popeye1945]

Can't we be "individuals" who are "anonymous generational patterns, shaped and defined by the enviornmental context that awaited us"? It seems to me that the word "individual" has it's relevance when referring to individual people. Unless the mystics and gurus are right and we are some kind of "cosmic oneness" (whatever that means).

Hi Gary!

The world is one of duality; thus, an individual requires a community, a cluster of patterns that gives one significance. Your behaviours within this context of patterns set you up as an individual, making or disrupting the harmony of the larger pattern. In this way, in this context, you cannot not be an individual, you have responsibilities to the larger pattern called society. There is one thing many religions get right, but abuse, and that is we are part of something larger than ourselves, the great mystery that they claim to know, in childish fantasy mythologies meant to comfort ignorance.

All groups converge upon an individual leader.

So, did I not previously state that to be an individual, you have to be part of a community? The two terms are mutually dependent.

[Eodnhoj7]

Hi Gary!

The world is one of duality; thus, an individual requires a community, a cluster of patterns that gives one significance. Your behaviours within this context of patterns set you up as an individual, making or disrupting the harmony of the larger pattern. In this way, in this context, you cannot not be an individual, you have responsibilities to the larger pattern called society. There is one thing many religions get right, but abuse, and that is we are part of something larger than ourselves, the great mystery that they claim to know, in childish fantasy mythologies meant to comfort ignorance.

All groups converge upon an individual leader.

So, did I not previously state that to be an individual, you have to be part of a community? The two terms are mutually dependent.

They are and yet the person and group are both individual entities:

1. A person is an individual entity.

2. A group is an individual entity.

3. A group is but a recursion of person.

4. The person is but the recursion of other persons.

5. There is only the individual state appearing through variations where each variation gives identity to the other through contrast.

6. This contrast leads to a relationship between variations, there is only one individual state by degree of said relationship.



It comes down to a proto-metaphysics of measurement.

Fundamentally there is only an individual state across persons and groups.

That individual state is the singular state of the occurence of all of it.