The Earliest Philosophers Got It

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Martin Peter Clarke
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Fairy wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:21 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:10 pm
Fairy wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 10:18 am

Yes, your true claim made by the sense there is a claimer, via the awareness of such.
I'm not making any.
Okay thanks for letting me know.
Why wouldn't you? And you are.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:41 pm
Fairy wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:21 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:10 pm
I'm not making any.
Okay thanks for letting me know.
Why wouldn't you? And you are.
Why wouldn’t you not. And you are not.
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Fairy wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:44 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:41 pm
Fairy wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:21 pm
Okay thanks for letting me know.
Why wouldn't you? And you are.
Why wouldn’t you not. And you are not.
Because I assume somebody would ask me to substantiate any claim. So what did the earliest philosophers get?
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:46 pm
Fairy wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:44 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2025 3:41 pm
Why wouldn't you? And you are.
Why wouldn’t you not. And you are not.
Because I assume somebody would ask me to substantiate any claim. So what did the earliest philosophers get?
It.
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The highest stage of development is to just be God.


“My dearest Kepler, I wish that we might laugh at the stupidity of the human herd. What do you have to say about the principal philosophers of this academy who are filled with the stubbornness of an asp (serpent) and do not want to look at either the planets, the moon, or the telescope, even though I have freely and deliberately offered them the opportunity a thousand times? Truly, just as the asp stops its ears, so do these philosophers shut their eyes to the light of truth.” — Galileo to Kepler, 1610
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All of science and human rationality is happening on a single plane of consciousness.

This is how God hides from you. Humans are only understanding a narrow 2D slice of Consciousness.
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The reason the universe as a whole works is because it’s selfless. Obviously nature is selfless, yet this goes unnoticed and unappreciated. Humans are selfish to the core. If nature doesn’t have a self why assume you have a self.

Nature doesn’t die, only selves die. God is as selfless as a rock. Be a rock to yourself. Be your own rock.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 8:16 am The reason the universe as a whole works is because it’s selfless. Obviously nature is selfless, yet this goes unnoticed and unappreciated. Humans are selfish to the core. If nature doesn’t have a self why assume you have a self.

Nature doesn’t die, only selves die. God is as selfless as a rock. Be a rock to yourself. Be your own rock.
True, change by time itself is the evidence of this selflessness.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 8:16 amBe a rock to yourself. Be your own rock.
And what need has a rock for answers to questions of any kind, eh?
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mickthinks wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 9:43 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 8:16 amBe a rock to yourself. Be your own rock.
And what need has a rock for answers to questions of any kind, eh?
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Think more deeply about the translation error.
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Think more deeply …


LOL NO U1!!
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mickthinks wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 10:15 am Think more deeply …


LOL NO U1!!
Okay.

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Guess you are saying we do not need philosophers, or any questioners at all!
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boyjohn wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:04 pm Guess you are saying we do not need philosophers, or any questioners at all!
Seekers of truth need. Actual Truth is not needy, unconditional Love is TRUTH

Sometimes, philosophers cannot handle the truth because they are conditioned to believe they are finite beings.
The truth is that they are infinite spirit having a finite experience.

UNCONDITIONAL Love is not human love, it’s limitless, boundless selflessness. Beyond the concept of I - True Nature is absolutely selfless.


No one will bullshit you as effectively as you bullshit yourself. Because you automatically believe yourself.

The experience of selfishness is not possible unless one is selfless and all allowing. That’s the unconditional nature of truth.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 8:09 am All of science and human rationality is happening on a single plane of consciousness.

This is how God hides from you. Humans are only understanding a narrow 2D slice of Consciousness.
God is not hiding. you older human beings just do not listen, and just do not see, always. It is also 'you' who are 'trying to' hide, from God, instead.
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