YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:53 am “So, to you, when an object has not been provided with a label, then 'it' is somehow 'image less', even though 'it' can be seen, correct?”

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No, that’s not correct.
Image less, meaning no word for it.
Okay. Thank you for informing 'us' of your completely own and distinct definition.

But, let 'us' not forget that absolutely every 'thing' has a word for 'it'.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:53 am In fact once the imageless is named it becomes an object conceptualised,
Well, again, considering that every 'thing' is named, then this would mean every 'thing' is an object conceptualized. Except the issue 'we' now have is that not every name 'thing' is an 'object'.

So, for example, 'we' could place names to 'that' what most people call 'image less', or in other words, 'that' what is just invisible, but 'that thing' will obviously not become an 'object conceptualized', like how you said and claimed, here.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:53 am the imageless is imaged.
Will you explain for 'us' how 'you' are able to so-call 'image' what is invisible?
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:53 am Which means it is known,
But, things can be and were known before they are given names.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:53 am but not seen,
Like 'what', exactly, for example?
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:53 am not seen because the seer is also a concept known.
So, supposedly, you human being 'seers' can not be seen, right?
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:53 am Concepts known have no reality. Reality has concepts.
So, to you, concepts like, 'monkey', 'tiger', 'fish', and 'human beings' have no reality at all, right?
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:53 am The concept is never seen, only known.
So, you can have a 'concept' of say, 'a building', but, to you, 'you' can never ever 'see' 'a building', right?
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:06 am “Also, and by the way, there is a 'label' for absolutely every 'thing', anyway. So, to you, does this mean that there is nothing that is what you call, 'image less'?“

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Not quite right. A thing is the label. The label doesn’t have the label, it is the label.
What do you mean, here?

Does a 'cat' have a label, and 'cat' is or is not 'the label'?

Also, a label is the label, as well. And, the label does have the label, in fact the label, 'label', is 'the label' for 'a label'.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:06 am Objects have no existence.
So, to you, the object, 'earth', has no existence anywhere, right?
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:06 am Existence has objects. Objects are looked upon as known concepts, never actually seen, only known.
If this is what you, really, want to believe is true, then okay.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:06 am No thing is ever seen, only known.
Because 'you' use the words and term, 'image less', in a very unique and distinct way, maybe 'you' would like to inform 'us' of how you define the word, 'seen', also. As to most human beings there are plenty of things that can be 'seen', and not only known.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:06 am Because seen implies a seer which is just another concept, known, in this conception, this not knowing knowing.
Are you aware that the 'only one' that you are fooling and confusing, here, is 'you'?
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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“So, you can have a 'concept' of say, 'a building', but, to you, 'you' can never ever 'see' 'a building', right?”

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You can know a building, but you don’t see the building, because there’s no image of the seer of the building.

So there’s nothing actually looking at the building. So there’s nothing seeing a building.

If you say I am seeing the building. Then that I is simply known. The I is a concept known.

Seen implies a seer. So ask yourself, can that which is seeing see the seer? What would the seer look like? Can you point to the actual seer as though it existed somewhere at the end of your finger?


It’s weird, but true if you actually think deeply enough about this.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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“Are you aware that the 'only one' that you are fooling and confusing, here, is 'you'?”

Are you aware that you are 110% an absolute moronic idiotic imbecile?
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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“So, for example, 'we' could place names to 'that' what most people call 'image less', or in other words, 'that' what is just invisible, but 'that thing' will obviously not become an 'object conceptualized', like how you said and claimed, here.”

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Invisible is a concept known. A concept is never seen for that implies a seer. That which is assumed to see, cannot be seen, only known.

How many more times would you like me to explain this to you? Will 3 million times more suffice, or shall I make it 4 million?
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:58 am “Are you aware that the 'only one' that you are fooling and confusing, here, is 'you'?”

Are you aware that you are 110% an absolute moronic idiotic imbecile?
By 'you' saying and writing, 110%, here, shows and reveals more 'about you', 'than me', here.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:51 am “So, you can have a 'concept' of say, 'a building', but, to you, 'you' can never ever 'see' 'a building', right?”

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You can know a building, but you don’t see the building, because there’s no image of the seer of the building.
Nonsensical, and nothing to do with what 'I' actually asked 'you'.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:51 am So there’s nothing actually looking at the building. So there’s nothing seeing a building.
So, again, to "fairy" anyway, you human beings can not 'see' 'things', like 'buildings'.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:51 am If you say I am seeing the building. Then that I is simply known. The I is a concept known.
Once more, nonsensical, and completely off topic, here.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:51 am Seen implies a seer. So ask yourself, can that which is seeing see the seer?
1. Why would 'I' ask "myself" this?

2. It is very easy and simple to 'see' the 'seer' because the word 'see', also, means 'understand', and it is very easy and simple to 'understand' who and what the 'seer' and the 'Seer' are, exactly.

3. Why do 'you' spend so much time 'trying to' deflect and detract away from just answering the actual question/s 'I' ask 'you', for clarification and clarifying purposes.
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:51 am What would the seer look like?
Exactly, like, invisible, 'thoughts'. Just like the 'Seer' looks, exactly, like the, invisible, 'Mind'.

What did 'you' envision the 'seer' looks like, exactly?
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:51 am Can you point to the actual seer as though it existed somewhere at the end of your finger?
Why would you ask such a thing when you know the 'seer' is invisible? Can you point the 'wind', for example?

Why after all of our back and forth replies in this forum 'you' are, still, 'stuck' on, and in, the exact same things that 'you' were from our first conversations?
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:51 am It’s weird, but true if you actually think deeply enough about this.
What is, supposedly, 'weird', but 'true', here, exactly?

Anyway, back to 'the beginning', again, 'Why can 'you' never 'see' a building, when every other human body with working eyes can?'

And, even those human bodies without working eyes can 'see', and/or understand, the concept, of 'a building' with and through the 'Mind'.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:05 pm “So, for example, 'we' could place names to 'that' what most people call 'image less', or in other words, 'that' what is just invisible, but 'that thing' will obviously not become an 'object conceptualized', like how you said and claimed, here.”

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Invisible is a concept known. A concept is never seen for that implies a seer. That which is assumed to see, cannot be seen, only known.

How many more times would you like me to explain this to you? Will 3 million times more suffice, or shall I make it 4 million?
I would much prefer you just answer the actual question/s 'I' ask 'you', only, instead of all of your attempts to deflect and deceive, here?

Look, "fairy" one of the many different and contradictory things that you claim is that when you place a name upon some thing, then 'it' become an 'object conceptualized'. However, and as 'I' pointed out to 'you' the invisible can not always become 'an object conceptualized', at all.

Will you explain what the 'objects conceptualized', to 'you', personally, look like with 'the names', 'Mind', 'thought', and 'feeling'?

If no, then why not?

What is 'it' that 'you' are afraid of, here, exactly?
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Age wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:45 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:05 pm “So, for example, 'we' could place names to 'that' what most people call 'image less', or in other words, 'that' what is just invisible, but 'that thing' will obviously not become an 'object conceptualized', like how you said and claimed, here.”

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Invisible is a concept known. A concept is never seen for that implies a seer. That which is assumed to see, cannot be seen, only known.

How many more times would you like me to explain this to you? Will 3 million times more suffice, or shall I make it 4 million?
I would much prefer you just answer the actual question/s 'I' ask 'you', only, instead of all of your attempts to deflect and deceive, here?

Look, "fairy" one of the many different and contradictory things that you claim is that when you place a name upon some thing, then 'it' become an 'object conceptualized'. However, and as 'I' pointed out to 'you' the invisible can not always become 'an object conceptualized', at all.

Will you explain what the 'objects conceptualized', to 'you', personally, look like with 'the names', 'Mind', 'thought', and 'feeling'?

If no, then why not?

What is 'it' that 'you' are afraid of, here, exactly?
I’ve already explained.

It’s you who is afraid of the explanation.

Stop blaming me for your own failures to understand.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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“Anyway, back to 'the beginning', again, 'Why can 'you' never 'see' a building, when every other human body with working eyes can?'”

There’s no seer in a physical eyeball.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:50 pm “Anyway, back to 'the beginning', again, 'Why can 'you' never 'see' a building, when every other human body with working eyes can?'”

There’s no seer in a physical eyeball.
Again, your attempt at deflection only 'hinders you', and never 'helps you'.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:48 pm
Age wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:45 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:05 pm “So, for example, 'we' could place names to 'that' what most people call 'image less', or in other words, 'that' what is just invisible, but 'that thing' will obviously not become an 'object conceptualized', like how you said and claimed, here.”

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Invisible is a concept known. A concept is never seen for that implies a seer. That which is assumed to see, cannot be seen, only known.

How many more times would you like me to explain this to you? Will 3 million times more suffice, or shall I make it 4 million?
I would much prefer you just answer the actual question/s 'I' ask 'you', only, instead of all of your attempts to deflect and deceive, here?

Look, "fairy" one of the many different and contradictory things that you claim is that when you place a name upon some thing, then 'it' become an 'object conceptualized'. However, and as 'I' pointed out to 'you' the invisible can not always become 'an object conceptualized', at all.

Will you explain what the 'objects conceptualized', to 'you', personally, look like with 'the names', 'Mind', 'thought', and 'feeling'?

If no, then why not?

What is 'it' that 'you' are afraid of, here, exactly?
I’ve already explained.

It’s you who is afraid of the explanation.

Stop blaming me for your own failures to understand.
One can not understand irrationality, illogicality, nor nonsense. By definition those things, which are what you are presenting, here, are understandable.

And, your continued attempts at deflection, and of deceiving, the readers, here, shows and proves just how irrational, illogical, nonsensical, and absurd a lot of your claims, here.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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“One can not understand irrationality, illogicality, nor nonsense. By definition those things, which are what you are presenting, here, are understandable.

And, your continued attempts at deflection, and of deceiving, the readers, here, shows and proves just how irrational, illogical, nonsensical, and absurd a lot of your claims, here.”

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Sorry age, you just cannot speak for others, you can’t, nice try though.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Age wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:57 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:50 pm “Anyway, back to 'the beginning', again, 'Why can 'you' never 'see' a building, when every other human body with working eyes can?'”

There’s no seer in a physical eyeball.
Again, your attempt at deflection only 'hinders you', and never 'helps you'.
I’m sorry to hear you are in need of my help that doesn’t help.
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Re: YOU ARE NOT AN INDIVIDUAL!

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Age wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:57 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:50 pm “Anyway, back to 'the beginning', again, 'Why can 'you' never 'see' a building, when every other human body with working eyes can?'”

There’s no seer in a physical eyeball.
Again, your attempt at deflection only 'hinders you', and never 'helps you'.
Prove me wrong, that there’s no seer in a physical eyeball.

I’m just responding to your claim that eyeballs can see.
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