Israel to allow foreign countries to drop aid into Gaza.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

What are the "sins of Sodom"? Are you being facetious, sarcastic, or ironic?

Ezekiel 16:49-50
New International Version
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Who "did away with them"? God? This seems entirely tangential to our discussion.

Really? Israelis were partying, in front of poor and needy Palestinians, that they had dispossessed, with insufficient border force.

[Gary Childress]

Ezekiel 16:49-50
New International Version
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Who "did away with them"? God? This seems entirely tangential to our discussion.

Really? Israelis were partying, in front of poor and needy Palestinians, that they had dispossessed, with insufficient border force.

I see. Is partying just "gay" or something?

[MikeNovack]

How much? So, the Palestinians only have themselves to blame for being conquered and displaced in 1948, for the Naqba? What better diplomacy would you have advised?

I certainly wouldn't have advised Hamas to massacre Israelis on Oct 7. I would have advised against it.

I'm going to answer both of these:
Martin: BLAME is the wrong word, but the Naqba outcome of 1948 largely the Palestinians foolishly trusting the surrounding Arab countries (as is these countries were not going to act in THEIR interests, not in the Palestinians' interests). Go back to early 1948 (when the fighting started). Israel not declared till May. ASK YOURSELF -- were the Israelis in any political position to start a shooting war? No, they would have just gotten the partition areas. And following the war, the Palestinians COULD have demanded "return". But no, they still trusted the occupying powers (Egypt and Jordan) sit tight as refugees and we'll get it ALL back for you.

Gary: Correct, they should have JUST attacked the observation center and other border posts. Would have been a very successful military operation. Then sat tight (not immediately starting an artillery war where they were hopelessly outgunned). But remember, Hamas in a political fight which is why those "friendly* kibbutzim" attacked. The attack on the dance festival insanity.

* Those particular settlements were active in doing things like transporting Palestinians to and from medical treatment in Israel.

[Gary Childress]

But remember, Hamas in a political fight which is why those "friendly* kibbutzim" attacked. The attack on the dance festival insanity.

I'm pretty sure Hamas did the same thing to Gazans, promising them the return of their former lands in return for allowing Hamas to run the territories. Outside powers probably played into Hamas' ambitions and sold them a bunch of military hardware instead of something useful--just like the US leadership does with Israel. Hamas was rotten from the ground up, no different than Netanyahu and Israeli hardliners. Had Hamas not taken over, Netanyahu would have had no option by now except to negotiate in good faith with the people in the occupied territories (that is if Netanyahu were even still in power at this point in the alternative scenario). "Political" motives can often be ugly. This entire fiasco was manufactured by hardline Israelis and Hamas. In the end, the losers are the innocent ones in both Gaza and Israel.

[accelafine]

What was the Sin of Sodom? And no, of course you're not wrong, you're 110% right. Because Israel left their border undefended whilst flaunting their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land.

What are the "sins of Sodom"? Are you being facetious, sarcastic, or ironic?

Ezekiel 16:49-50
New International Version
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

You are truly a sick little fucker. Which 'stolen' piece of rock are you squatting on? I guess that gives a green light to anyone who feels 'slighted' to torture children and rape women. No amount of border protection is ever going to be 100 percent secure, especially when 'poor suppressed people with no money or resources' can fly over it or tunnel under it. How was Israel 'stolen' and from whom was it 'stolen'? I await your logic and continuity with anticipation.

Of cousre you won't answer any of this. Your ilk never do because you don't actually know anything about the topic and only spew stock tropes from your Jew-hating algorithm. Now fuck off from whatever stolen piece of rock you are squatting on, old man.

Interesting that you use exactly the same 'argument' that rabid Jew-haters use to justify the Holocaust. 'There is a REASON why Jews are hated. The Nazis hated them for a REASON and therefore the Jews just brought it on themselves' (either that or they deny it happened altogether).
You are in 'lovely' company, old man.

[accelafine]

Ezekiel 16:49-50
New International Version
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Who "did away with them"? God? This seems entirely tangential to our discussion.

Really? Israelis were partying, in front of poor and needy Palestinians, that they had dispossessed, with insufficient border force.

How dare young people have fun, and in their own country too. That's just begging to be raped and slaughtered. How far away from the border should Israelis be before they should be allowed to exist without being slaughtered? What distance would be acceptable to you?

You do realise that the whole thing was organised by 'poor and needy' multi-billionaires living in Qatar don't you? The ones who have been stealing aid money for decades? 'Poor and needy' people don't usually have the money or resources to build miles of undergroud tunnels, or buy the latest military vehicles and equipment.

[accelafine]

What was the Sin of Sodom? And no, of course you're not wrong, you're 110% right. Because Israel left their border undefended whilst flaunting their sin as Sodom on stolen Arab land.

What are the "sins of Sodom"? Are you being facetious, sarcastic, or ironic?

Ezekiel 16:49-50
New International Version
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

So quoting the bible now, to justify rape and mass murder. You are completely insane.

[accelafine]

Jews were satisfied with only a tiny percentage of what they ended up with, but the Arabs at the time just kept refusing every offer because they wanted the complete annihilation of Jews in the region and have wanted that ever since. They essentially gifted Israel to the world. That was very kind of them, but they've been having a huge toddler tantrum about it ever since when it was all their own doing and they know it. Rage at oneself can be the most destructive. The Arabs who had the sense to stay don't seem enraged at all. Funny that. They are too busy being 20 percent of the Israeli population and enjoying equal rights as Israelis.

[seeds]

What are the "sins of Sodom"? Are you being facetious, sarcastic, or ironic?

Ezekiel 16:49-50
New International Version
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Who "did away with them"? God? This seems entirely tangential to our discussion.

It was the Japanese monster "Gamera" that did away with them by using what Google's AI Overview calls...

"...a variety of plasma and fire-based attacks, including the powerful Plasma Fireball and a destructive beam of fire called the Ultimate Plasma, which he fires from an opening in his chest after absorbing ambient energy, like the planet's mana..."

That's why it's called "Sodom and Gamera."
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[Gary Childress]

Ezekiel 16:49-50
New International Version
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Who "did away with them"? God? This seems entirely tangential to our discussion.

It was the Japanese monster "Gamera" that did away with them by using what Google's AI Overview calls...

"...a variety of plasma and fire-based attacks, including the powerful Plasma Fireball and a destructive beam of fire called the Ultimate Plasma, which he fires from an opening in his chest after absorbing ambient energy, like the planet's mana..."

That's why it's called "Sodom and Gamera."
_______

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Who "did away with them"? God? This seems entirely tangential to our discussion.

It was the Japanese monster "Gamera" that did away with them by using what Google's AI Overview calls...

"...a variety of plasma and fire-based attacks, including the powerful Plasma Fireball and a destructive beam of fire called the Ultimate Plasma, which he fires from an opening in his chest after absorbing ambient energy, like the planet's mana..."

That's why it's called "Sodom and Gamera."
_______

Most disappointing, Gary. Most disappointing.

[Gary Childress]

It was the Japanese monster "Gamera" that did away with them by using what Google's AI Overview calls...


That's why it's called "Sodom and Gamera."
_______

Most disappointing, Gary. Most disappointing.

Do you have something against Gamera?

[accelafine]

Unfortunately Gary and the Jew-hating 'Martin Peter Clark' (is that the most boring name in the history of names?) have gorged themselves on 'junk information' just as Gary has gorged himself on junk food. Both are equally bad for you.
I've taken an interest in and read about Israel since I was a child. My brain seems to have the capacity to filter bullshit because I have grown up with actual news. I remember real-time world events vividly. Most people do not. How many of the 'free plasticiners' have any awareness of the region whatsoever apart from what they get off their Tik Tok and X algorithms? I would say quite confidently that it would be 'none'.

[Gary Childress]

Unfortunately Gary and the Jew-hating 'Martin Peter Clark' (is that the most boring name in the history of names?) have gorged themselves on 'junk information' just as Gary has gorged himself on junk food. Both are equally bad for you.
I've taken an interest in and read about Israel since I was a child. My brain seems to have the capacity to filter bullshit because I have grown up with actual news. I remember real-time world events vividly. Most people do not. How many of the 'free plasticiners' have any awareness of the region whatsoever apart from what they get off their Tik Tok and X algorithms? I would say quite confidently that it would be 'none'.

Speak for yourself.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Unfortunately Gary and the Jew-hating 'Martin Peter Clark' (is that the most boring name in the history of names?) have gorged themselves on 'junk information' just as Gary has gorged himself on junk food. Both are equally bad for you.
I've taken an interest in and read about Israel since I was a child. My brain seems to have the capacity to filter bullshit because I have grown up with actual news. I remember real-time world events vividly. Most people do not. How many of the 'free plasticiners' have any awareness of the region whatsoever apart from what they get off their Tik Tok and X algorithms? I would say quite confidently that it would be 'none'.

Speak for yourself.

accelafine is not Jewish, unlike all the critics of Israel I posted.