I have no idea. That is for you to figure out. You are not beyond hope! That’s what the knowledge of determinism has given me. It was a gift I can never pay back.
If you have no idea what lie I have accepted, then how do you know I've accepted a lie? Surely you must have some idea what lie I've accepted.
Many messages children were given by their parents or society in general were untruths. Or, we were hurt in some way that stayed with us that even as adults, we cannot forgive.
If you have no idea what lie I have accepted, then how do you know I've accepted a lie? Surely you must have some idea what lie I've accepted.
Many messages children were given by their parents or society in general were untruths. Or, we were hurt in some way that stayed with us that even as adults, we cannot forgive.
What specific untruths are you referring to?
Lies about our intrinsic worth based on achievement. That’s one. This relates to his second discovery regarding the eyes. I am so sorry but I cannot get into it here. But it corrected so much of my wrong thinking that, once I knew the truth, it changed my entire outlook. I began to walk with my head held high.
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Many messages children were given by their parents or society in general were untruths. Or, we were hurt in some way that stayed with us that even as adults, we cannot forgive.
What specific untruths are you referring to?
Lies about our intrinsic worth based on achievement. That’s one.
Do you mean such as telling us that we must produce something of relevance and value in order to be socially accepted? Or if not, what is an example?
Lies about our intrinsic worth based on achievement. That’s one.
Do you mean such as telling us that we must produce something of relevance and value in order to be socially accepted? Or if not, what is an example?
Yes, that we must produce or we are just taking up space and don't deserve to be here. It follows us everywhere.
I agree. It does seem to follow us everywhere. If you've found a way to make peace with the sentiment, then that sounds like a good thing. What is your method of making peace with that sentiment?
Do you mean such as telling us that we must produce something of relevance and value in order to be socially accepted? Or if not, what is an example?
Yes, that we must produce or we are just taking up space and don't deserve to be here. It follows us everywhere.
I agree. It does seem to follow us everywhere. If you've found a way to make peace with the sentiment, then that sounds like a good thing. What is your method of making peace with that sentiment?
Just knowing it for what it is, and every time a negative thought appears, reject it before it has a chance to start the negative self-talk that creates anxiety, self-doubt, and depression. It gets easier and easier to do with practice. The most important thing is to know in your heart of hearts that what you believed all these years is not true and it never was. None of this was your fault! It is so important to give yourself grace!
Yes, that we must produce or we are just taking up space and don't deserve to be here. It follows us everywhere.
I agree. It does seem to follow us everywhere. If you've found a way to make peace with the sentiment, then that sounds like a good thing. What is your method of making peace with that sentiment?
Just knowing it for what it is, and every time a negative thought appears, reject it before it has a chance to start the negative self-talk that creates anxiety, self-doubt, and depression. It gets easier and easier to do with practice. The most important thing is to know in your heart of hearts that what you believed all these years is not true and it never was. None of this was your fault! It is so important to give yourself grace!
That's easier said than done. Does anyone honestly believe that we deserve grace? Does anyone believe that it's OK to just "take up space"? It's been drilled into my head since birth that I have to carry my own weight and not be a burden, even though, at 58, I can't keep up anymore. And I've struggled with the sentiment all my life.
The sentiment that we are just "taking up space" also appears in the belief that we are just lazy 1st world residents. I'm supposed to think of the starving children in Bangladesh, or think of people stooping in the fields harvesting crops all day long so I can eat, right? I'm supposed to do my part. And if I don't, then I deserve to feel shame. Or else I at least deserve to be mocked and ridiculed by people in poorer countries who are struggling, right? I mean, if just taking up space is condoned, then everyone would do it, and no work would get done, right?
I agree. It does seem to follow us everywhere. If you've found a way to make peace with the sentiment, then that sounds like a good thing. What is your method of making peace with that sentiment?
Just knowing it for what it is, and every time a negative thought appears, reject it before it has a chance to start the negative self-talk that creates anxiety, self-doubt, and depression. It gets easier and easier to do with practice. The most important thing is to know in your heart of hearts that what you believed all these years is not true and it never was. None of this was your fault! It is so important to give yourself grace!
That's easier said than done. Does anyone honestly believe that we deserve grace? Does anyone believe that it's OK to just "take up space"? It's been drilled into my head since birth that I have to carry my own weight and not be a burden, even though, at 58, I can't keep up anymore. And I've struggled with the sentiment all my life.
The sentiment that we are just "taking up space" also appears in the belief that we are just lazy 1st world residents. I'm supposed to think of the starving children in Bangladesh, or think of people stooping in the fields harvesting crops all day long so I can eat, right? I'm supposed to do my part. And if I don't, then I deserve to feel shame. Or else I at least deserve to be mocked and ridiculed by people in poorer countries who are struggling, right? I mean, if just taking up space is condoned, then everyone would do it, and no work would get done, right?
A lot of injustices exist in the world, but to feel shame because you can't do more, is counterproductive. There is nothing wrong with taking up space and doing nothing, which, ironically most people would not like doing. Most people want to contribute their talents and abilities to help others, but it's often drummed in their head that "doing their part" isn't good enough, and it's often said for selfish reasons. You might like this guy on youtube. He's very interesting.
I agree. It does seem to follow us everywhere. If you've found a way to make peace with the sentiment, then that sounds like a good thing. What is your method of making peace with that sentiment?
Just knowing it for what it is, and every time a negative thought appears, reject it before it has a chance to start the negative self-talk that creates anxiety, self-doubt, and depression. It gets easier and easier to do with practice. The most important thing is to know in your heart of hearts that what you believed all these years is not true and it never was. None of this was your fault! It is so important to give yourself grace!
That's easier said than done. Does anyone honestly believe that we deserve grace? Does anyone believe that it's OK to just "take up space"? It's been drilled into my head since birth that I have to carry my own weight and not be a burden, even though, at 58, I can't keep up anymore. And I've struggled with the sentiment all my life.
The sentiment that we are just "taking up space" also appears in the belief that we are just lazy 1st world residents. I'm supposed to think of the starving children in Bangladesh, or think of people stooping in the fields harvesting crops all day long so I can eat, right? I'm supposed to do my part. And if I don't, then I deserve to feel shame. Or else I at least deserve to be mocked and ridiculed by people in poorer countries who are struggling, right? I mean, if just taking up space is condoned, then everyone would do it, and no work would get done, right?
The irony of course is that the poorest and most primitive people in the world (when they are left alone and if there are any left) are actually the happiest. We get brainwashed from birth about how 'fortunate' we are because there are 'starving people' in some parts of the world. If you look a bit deeper those starving people were often starving because of industrialised countries disrupting their natural way of life and balance with nature.
'Guilt' is a massive and extremely lucrative industry.
Just knowing it for what it is, and every time a negative thought appears, reject it before it has a chance to start the negative self-talk that creates anxiety, self-doubt, and depression. It gets easier and easier to do with practice. The most important thing is to know in your heart of hearts that what you believed all these years is not true and it never was. None of this was your fault! It is so important to give yourself grace!
That's easier said than done. Does anyone honestly believe that we deserve grace? Does anyone believe that it's OK to just "take up space"? It's been drilled into my head since birth that I have to carry my own weight and not be a burden, even though, at 58, I can't keep up anymore. And I've struggled with the sentiment all my life.
The sentiment that we are just "taking up space" also appears in the belief that we are just lazy 1st world residents. I'm supposed to think of the starving children in Bangladesh, or think of people stooping in the fields harvesting crops all day long so I can eat, right? I'm supposed to do my part. And if I don't, then I deserve to feel shame. Or else I at least deserve to be mocked and ridiculed by people in poorer countries who are struggling, right? I mean, if just taking up space is condoned, then everyone would do it, and no work would get done, right?
A lot of injustices exist in the world, but to feel shame because you can't do more, is counterproductive. There is nothing wrong with taking up space and doing nothing, which, ironically most people would not like doing. Most people want to contribute their talents and abilities to help others, but it's often drummed in their head that "doing their part" isn't good enough, and it's often said for selfish reasons. You might like this guy on youtube. He's very interesting.
