What is obscene ?

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Walker
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Re: What is obscene ?

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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:03 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:05 pm How childish.


AI has plenty to say about it.

Don't you believe the AI that apes my answer?

Go on, ask AI those worthy questions, as is.
Excuse me?

Give me a single, credible news report (BBC standard), or wiki account.

Put up or shut up.
:lol:

Juvenility has already been established. Now you're working on bossy bitch.

I don't think there are any credible Lefty Sources, just old irrelevant reputations.

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Sure: Ask these questions of AI and not only will you have your answer, it will mean more to you because you participated rather sitting back and demanding to be fed, like a juvenile whose tablet battery ran down in class, and whose fault is that. But, you can’t change the wording of the questions because in regards to your enquiry, they are perfect questions, a gift to your enquiry, gratis. And yet you want more, gratis. I think my way is much more practical, more reasonable, than me wasting my time composing sentences upon your command while I'm occupied composing the sentences that I must. In fact, once you’ve taken it that far, you should cut and paste and share what your enquiry has revealed, to you.

Worthy Question #1: What are the caring surgical and chemical procedures that the medical profession uses to affirm gender?

Worthy Question #2: Where have children been surgically and chemically treated to affirm gender?
Martin Peter Clarke
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Re: What is obscene ?

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Walker wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:23 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:03 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:05 pm How childish.


AI has plenty to say about it.

Don't you believe the AI that apes my answer?

Go on, ask AI those worthy questions, as is.
Excuse me?

Give me a single, credible news report (BBC standard), or wiki account.

Put up or shut up.
:lol:

Juvenility has already been established. Now you're working on bossy bitch.

I don't think there are any credible Lefty Sources, just old irrelevant reputations.

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Sure: Ask these questions of AI and not only will you have your answer, it will mean more to you because you participated rather sitting back and demanding to be fed, like a juvenile whose tablet battery ran down in class, and whose fault is that. But, you can’t change the wording of the questions because in regards to your enquiry, they are perfect questions, a gift to your enquiry, gratis. And yet you want more, gratis. I think my way is much more practical, more reasonable, than me wasting my time composing sentences upon your command while I'm occupied composing the sentences that I must. In fact, once you’ve taken it that far, you should cut and paste and share what your enquiry has revealed, to you.

Worthy Question #1: What are the caring surgical and chemical procedures that the medical profession uses to affirm gender?

Worthy Question #2: Where have children been surgically and chemically treated to affirm gender?
You've . got . nothing . , . absolutely . nothing.

And that's my fault how?

And you're projecting childishness, juvenility.

Another troll. Another unworthy Foe.

I should be kinder, but it's wasted on you.

I really should be. But you have some sick prejudice against a fantasy of your own creation. You need help. You are revolted by your own mind. Let it go. I have multiple techniques. One step up from collapsing under the horror of it, as you do, is tell it to Foxtrot Oscar. It's intrusive thinking. My psychologist recently suggested another (she liked my first approach). Rejection and denial. But it's a struggle. So I started inviting it in, offering a seat and an apology. And talking to it clinically. She suggested that was too acquiescent. Leave the back door open and when they come in through the front, say nothing, and watch them go out the back. And thank them for calling. And another technique I discovered was sing them. Become your own Broadway show. It's absolutely incredible. Believe me.

Working with the dispossessed I rapidly learned that everything they said was true. But none of it was the truth. Whatever toxic shit your mind dwells on, don't accept that. React. Tap your temple. Ping a rubber band around your wrist. Create head space around it. While walking in the green. Being distracted by beauty. Lift up the feeble knees. Seize the next opportunity to be polite, to be kind. To be, above all, grateful.
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Walker
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Re: What is obscene ?

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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:05 pm
The degree of ignorance in that posting is rather obscene.

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Worthy Question #1: What are the caring surgical and chemical procedures that the medical profession uses to affirm gender?

Worthy Question #2: Where have children been surgically and chemically treated to affirm gender?

Bonus question: What is a puberty blocker, and to whom is it administered?


Ask the questions of AI, and know.

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You have a female psychologist?
Why a woman? Is that your decision?
Did she tell you these things?
Sounds kind of New-Agey.
Is psychology a science?
Have you posted under other monikers, or do I just trigger your ilk? :D
Martin Peter Clarke
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Re: What is obscene ?

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Whatever that is, flush and go mate.
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Re: What is obscene ?

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Talking scatology, I loved Tony Campolo. Sadly missed. He told a billion dollar Christian audience that they didn't give a shit about world hunger; that they were more concerned he'd said 'shit' than about world hunger.

That's obscene.
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Walker
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What's obscene? That this person told people what he thinks?
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:51 am Talking scatology, I loved Tony Campolo. Sadly missed. He told a billion dollar Christian audience that they didn't give a shit about world hunger; that they were more concerned he's said shit than about world hunger.

That's obscene.
Is that what she told you?

She should have told you that poor people don't fill those food trucks.

If billionaires gave all their billions to feed the world, tomorrow the world would be hungry, and so would the billionaires, without any means to produce and coordinate what feeds the world ... so the plan is everyone keep a kitchen garden, which should cut down on the world population.

Needless death, so the world could splurg for a day. Obscene. So very, very obscene.
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It's funny, nobody I've ever Foed has ever messaged me privately with whatever crazed filth they post that I'm not missing.
Walker
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:46 am Whatever that is, flush and go mate.
Realistically, you did ask those worthy questions of AI.

But, you didn't like the answers, and everyone who asks AI, knows the answers that you don't like.

And whose fault is that?

Thus ... you attempt to distract.

Puberty blockers would explain the juvenility, perhaps also the needless and hateful aggression that you display ...

Cripes ... I just realized. I'm dialoguing with a kid.
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Question: What are the caring surgical and chemical procedures that the medical profession uses to affirm gender?

Gemini Answer:
Gender-affirming care utilizes both surgical and chemical procedures to help individuals align their physical characteristics with their gender identity. These procedures, which can include hormone therapy, facial surgery, breast or chest surgery, and genital surgery, are considered medically necessary treatments for gender dysphoria by the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH).

Surgical Procedures:
• Facial feminization surgery (FFS):
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This involves various procedures to reshape the facial features to be more feminine, including forehead contouring, brow lift, rhinoplasty, cheek augmentation, and jawline and chin contouring.
• Facial masculinization surgery:
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Similar to FFS, this can involve procedures to reshape the face to be more masculine.
• Top surgery:
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This includes breast augmentation for feminizing procedures, or mastectomy and chest reconstruction (including breast removal) for masculinizing procedures.
• Bottom surgery (Genital reconstruction):
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This encompasses a range of procedures, including vaginoplasty (creation of a vagina), metoidioplasty and phalloplasty (construction of a penis), hysterectomy (removal of the uterus), orchiectomy (removal of the testicles), and others, depending on the individual's goals.

Other surgical options:
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These can include procedures like tracheal shave (reduction of the thyroid cartilage in the neck), voice surgery, and body contouring procedures such as liposuction.


Chemical Procedures:
• Hormone replacement therapy (HRT):
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This involves taking hormones (estrogen or testosterone) to induce changes in secondary sex characteristics, aligning the body with the individual's gender identity.
• Hormone blockers:
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These medications can be used to suppress the development of puberty and secondary sex characteristics, often as a first step for adolescents before considering other treatments.
Other Gender-Affirming Interventions:
• Hair removal: Electrolysis or laser treatments to remove facial and body hair.
• Voice and communication therapy: Speech therapy to adjust vocal characteristics (pitch, intonation, etc.).
• Psychological and social support: Counseling and support to address mental health and social aspects related to gender dysphoria.
• Assistance with social transition: Helping with name and pronoun changes, finding appropriate clothing and appearance, and legal support for name and gender changes on official documents.
Note: The term "gender-affirming surgery" is often used to encompass a wide range of surgical procedures that can be performed to help transgender and non-binary individuals align their physical appearance with their gender identity.
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Question: Where have children been surgically and chemically treated to affirm gender?

AI Answer: (I yi yi)

Gender-affirming medical care for minors, including both puberty blockers and hormone therapy, has been and is still offered in various locations, primarily in countries where such treatments are legally allowed and where there are established guidelines for their provision.
However, the landscape of gender-affirming care for minors is complex and subject to change, with some regions seeing restrictions or bans on such care.

Here's a breakdown of where such care has been available:
Countries with access to gender-affirming care for minors
Many countries in Europe, North America, and other parts of the world have had policies and medical frameworks allowing access to puberty blockers and/or hormone therapy for minors under specific conditions and with varying age requirements, often including parental consent and/or involvement of multidisciplinary teams.
Some countries have been particularly notable for providing access to gender-affirming care for minors, such as Belgium, Denmark, France, Iceland, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, and Thailand.
Specific examples of countries with legal frameworks supporting gender-affirming care for minors include:
Belgium: Hormone therapy is treated like any other medical treatment, implying minors can access it.
Denmark: Teens aged 15 and over can consent to treatment without parental consent.
France: Minors can access puberty blockers and hormone therapy after a psychological assessment.
Malta: Individuals aged 16 and over can access hormone therapy.
Netherlands: Minors can access puberty blockers and hormone therapy at 16 with a history of gender dysphoria.
Norway: Minors of any age can access puberty blockers with parental consent, and hormone therapy is available from age 16.
Thailand: Gender-affirming care is available to anyone of any age.

Surgical treatment for minors
While puberty blockers and hormone therapy are the primary medical interventions used for minors, gender-affirming surgeries on individuals under 18 have been considerably rare and typically only considered in very specific circumstances, according to a study published by Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

The study found no gender-affirming surgeries were performed on transgender youth aged 12 and younger in 2019*, aligning with current international guidelines that suggest delaying surgical interventions until later stages of development.
A small number of older adolescents (15-17) have undergone gender-affirming surgeries, primarily chest surgeries, according to the same study.
Recent developments and changes
The landscape of gender-affirming care for minors is dynamic, particularly in the United States, where there has been increased scrutiny and some hospitals have paused or limited services due to escalating legal and regulatory risks.
For instance, Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., announced a pause on prescribing puberty blockers and hormone therapies for minors in response to an executive order and changes in regulations.
Children's Hospital Los Angeles also closed its Center for Transyouth Health and Development, one of the oldest and largest clinics for transgender youth, citing similar reasons.
Some state governments in the US have also enacted legislation banning or restricting gender-affirming care for minors, although some of these bans are facing legal challenges.
It is important to note that the availability and legal status of gender-affirming care for minors are subject to change based on evolving policies and legal challenges in different countries and regions.

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*Note: Trump was POTUS in 2019
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Jamie Reed: The Courage to Admit You’re Wrong
https://www.thefp.com/p/whistleblower-j ... dmit-wrong

“It sucks to admit that you’re wrong. It’s not just humbling; you also have to take a closer look at how you were complicit in misleading others. I’m not proud of my eager participation in the pediatric gender industry, which has led thousands of youths astray, medically treating their dysphoria when many of them mainly needed counseling. But my progressive beliefs aren’t what led me down the wrong path. In fact, those beliefs are what helped me finally see the light.”
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Woman Who Detransitioned Calls On Congress To Ban Gender Confirmation Healthcare For Minors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua3PVeydTxQ

Shocking and sad, in a civilized country.
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Re: What is obscene ?

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duszek wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:17 pm I remember an attempt to express the essence of the obscene, I think it was Jean-Paul Sartre who wrote it:

Obscene is something which shows itself to one (se dévoile), although one does not want to see it.

This is a good start, I think, but it is not the whole story, it seems to me.

How could we go on ?
The obscene is the violation of standards; no standard, no obscenity
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popeye1945 wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 3:59 am
duszek wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:17 pm I remember an attempt to express the essence of the obscene, I think it was Jean-Paul Sartre who wrote it:

Obscene is something which shows itself to one (se dévoile), although one does not want to see it.

This is a good start, I think, but it is not the whole story, it seems to me.

How could we go on ?
The obscene is the violation of standards; no standard, no obscenity
The obscene is a violation of standards; however, not all violations of standards are obscene. For example, a 3/4 inch socket wrench may contain a defect whereby it violates standards of a true 3/4 inch socket wrench; however, a 3/4 inch socket wrench that violates such standards probably wouldn't be considered "obscene."
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