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peacegirl wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:11 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 8:44 pm
peacegirl wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 7:02 pm

Wrong.
What is the second discovery? It's not a difficult question.
It has to do with the eyes. I don’t want to discuss this until his first discovery is understood, and it is far from it because no one is giving me a chance.
I jumped through your hoops peacegirl and now you have abandoned me. Accelafine thinks I look naïve for trusting you, and she can be very cruel and cutting about that sort of thing. You complained that nobody gives you a chance, but when presented with that chance....
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peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:56 am I'm sorry if I said I would. I'm too thin-skinned to deal with such mean-spiritedness, and for what? I thought this forum was moderated. I guess not.
You’ve stepped into a quagmire here, Peacegirl. Once you’re in, and once the hyaenas have chomped your hind leg with a muscle-crunching bite, the kill-process begins.

You must understand something of psychological bondedness to understand some of the dynamics that play out here. The point is not to achieve agreements or forge bridges, it is (more often than not) to indulge in tearing and ripping.

Having merely glossed the material you present, I think it corresponds to a Vedic idea involving determinism in the sense of inextricable bondage into cycles of karma. If one could manage never to ‘react against’ (to blame is how the text puts it) one might through non-reaction avoid getting ever-more trapped into reactive cycles.

The reference to “the eyes” is interesting. Intuitively, one senses something meditative, an activity of abstraction, or turning away from mutable phenomena to something … more stable (?) Just guessing though.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:38 am
accelafine wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:20 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:18 am
Well you see how Age and Accelafine sort of prove Lessan's claims about ending all traffic accidents and plane crashes quite obviously false, right? In your book, you think that nobody would try to fly an aeroplane who wasn't quite entirely capable, so the license Raj is no longer required and anyone who wants to wear the hat can fly the plane.

But Age is autistic and Accelafine has a giant personality disorder, neither of them is capable of the sorts of judgment that Lessan's plan depends on. Age would completely walk up to some machine he knew nothing about and declare himself the perfect one to operate it. And Accelafine would take over the cockpit and just set the controls for the heart of the sun just to hear the screams.

I guess if your plan is to euthanise Accelafine to make the world a better place, that might be fine, but which discovery covers that sort of thing? Do we have to buy the third book to find out that sort of stuff, a snip at $89.99, available at all good Scientology warehouses.
You seriously expect anyone to believe you are actually reading all that copypasted gobshite? Why don't you just download and read if from the link then, or pay for it you tightwad wanker. You've fully lost the plot old man.
Sure I read it, it's clumsy and shit, but it remains a philosophical argument. Why would this be baffling to you? You can read books can't you?
You need help--like the help they give people like you in Canada...
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peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:16 am I'm not cutting and pasting anymore, although I hope that you FlashDangerpants read Chapter Six: The New Economic World, which completely revamps our entire political and economic system to one of complete security for everyone worldwide.
Is it possible to get in on this a bit early? If I sign up now it stands to reason I’d be in “on the ground floor” as it were.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:18 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:56 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:30 am

You said you would.
I'm sorry if I said I would. I'm too thin-skinned to deal with such mean-spiritedness, and for what? I thought this forum was moderated. I guess not.
Well you see how Age and Accelafine sort of prove Lessan's claims about ending all traffic accidents and plane crashes quite obviously false, right? In your book, you think that nobody would try to fly an aeroplane who wasn't quite entirely capable, so the license Raj is no longer required and anyone who wants to wear the hat can fly the plane.

But Age is autistic and Accelafine has a giant personality disorder, neither of them is capable of the sorts of judgment that Lessan's plan depends on. Age would completely walk up to some machine he knew nothing about and declare himself the perfect one to operate it. And Accelafine would take over the cockpit and just set the controls for the heart of the sun just to hear the screams.

I guess if your plan is to euthanise Accelafine to make the world a better place, that might be fine, but which "discovery" covers that sort of thing? Do we have to buy the third book to find out that sort of stuff, a snip at $89.99, available at all good Scientology warehouses.
Please don’t compare this to Scientology. If someone was mentally disturbed where they were causing a serious risk to others, they would have to be confined just like a mad dog would be taken off the streets, but with compassion. In this kind of environment, mental illness will be virtually nonexistent.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:10 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:16 am I'm not cutting and pasting anymore, although I hope that you FlashDangerpants read Chapter Six: The New Economic World, which completely revamps our entire political and economic system to one of complete security for everyone worldwide.
Is it possible to get in on this a bit early? If I sign up now it stands to reason I’d be in “on the ground floor” as it were.
There will be a transition period from the world we are living in to the new world. It is a very interesting chapter because he shows how being guaranteed your standard of living protects everyone from the need to take from others or else be a loser. You would get a lot out of it.
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Re: New Discovery

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peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:18 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:18 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:56 am

I'm sorry if I said I would. I'm too thin-skinned to deal with such mean-spiritedness, and for what? I thought this forum was moderated. I guess not.
Well you see how Age and Accelafine sort of prove Lessan's claims about ending all traffic accidents and plane crashes quite obviously false, right? In your book, you think that nobody would try to fly an aeroplane who wasn't quite entirely capable, so the license Raj is no longer required and anyone who wants to wear the hat can fly the plane.

But Age is autistic and Accelafine has a giant personality disorder, neither of them is capable of the sorts of judgment that Lessan's plan depends on. Age would completely walk up to some machine he knew nothing about and declare himself the perfect one to operate it. And Accelafine would take over the cockpit and just set the controls for the heart of the sun just to hear the screams.

I guess if your plan is to euthanise Accelafine to make the world a better place, that might be fine, but which "discovery" covers that sort of thing? Do we have to buy the third book to find out that sort of stuff, a snip at $89.99, available at all good Scientology warehouses.
Please don’t compare this to Scientology. If someone was mentally disturbed where they were causing a serious risk to others, they would have to be confined just like a mad dog would be taken off the streets, but with compassion. In this kind of environment, mental illness will be virtually nonexistent.
Wait, what? How does mental illness get magicked away?

You promise amazing knowledge and then lock it away behind a series of paywalls, of course you are going to get compared to Scientology. Scientologists have to part with serious dosh to learn that all their misgivings and anxieties are caused by a space wizard dropping people into volcanoes. Your thing might be cheaper though.
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Re: New Discovery

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:43 am
peacegirl wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:11 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 8:44 pm
What is the second discovery? It's not a difficult question.
It has to do with the eyes. I don’t want to discuss this until his first discovery is understood, and it is far from it because no one is giving me a chance.
I jumped through your hoops peacegirl and now you have abandoned me. Accelafine thinks I look naïve for trusting you, and she can be very cruel and cutting about that sort of thing. You complained that nobody gives you a chance, but when presented with that chance....
I didn’t make you jump through any hoops. You asked me to cut and paste and I did this for you. Now I’m being punished by these trolls. I appreciate that you gave him a chance but I really don’t know what you understood. Not even a relevant question. Just criticism. And comparing this to Scientology? WTF!! :shock:
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Re: New Discovery

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:26 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:18 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:18 am
Well you see how Age and Accelafine sort of prove Lessan's claims about ending all traffic accidents and plane crashes quite obviously false, right? In your book, you think that nobody would try to fly an aeroplane who wasn't quite entirely capable, so the license Raj is no longer required and anyone who wants to wear the hat can fly the plane.

But Age is autistic and Accelafine has a giant personality disorder, neither of them is capable of the sorts of judgment that Lessan's plan depends on. Age would completely walk up to some machine he knew nothing about and declare himself the perfect one to operate it. And Accelafine would take over the cockpit and just set the controls for the heart of the sun just to hear the screams.

I guess if your plan is to euthanise Accelafine to make the world a better place, that might be fine, but which "discovery" covers that sort of thing? Do we have to buy the third book to find out that sort of stuff, a snip at $89.99, available at all good Scientology warehouses.
Please don’t compare this to Scientology. If someone was mentally disturbed where they were causing a serious risk to others, they would have to be confined just like a mad dog would be taken off the streets, but with compassion. In this kind of environment, mental illness will be virtually nonexistent.
“Flash” wrote:Wait, what? How does mental illness get magicked away?
The way children are raised.

[quote”Flash”]You promise amazing knowledge and then lock it away behind a series of paywalls, of course you are going to get compared to Scientology. Scientologists have to part with serious dosh to learn that all their misgivings and anxieties are caused by a space wizard dropping people into volcanoes. Your thing might be cheaper though.
I already explained that I lowered the price to $1.95 (Amazon demands you charge something) but not for long because no one gives a damn. I would have to sell 1500 books to make five cents. You’ve suddenly changed and become sarcastic. I think we’re done.
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peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:29 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:43 am
peacegirl wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:11 pm

It has to do with the eyes. I don’t want to discuss this until his first discovery is understood, and it is far from it because no one is giving me a chance.
I jumped through your hoops peacegirl and now you have abandoned me. Accelafine thinks I look naïve for trusting you, and she can be very cruel and cutting about that sort of thing. You complained that nobody gives you a chance, but when presented with that chance....
I didn’t make you jump through any hoops. You asked me to cut and paste and I did this for you. Now I’m being punished by these trolls. I appreciate that you gave him a chance but I really don’t know what you understood. Not even a relevant question. Just criticism. And comparing this to Scientology? WTF!! :shock:
What I asked for very clearly was.... What is the second discovery? It's not a difficult question.

And here we are, I completed your pre-requisites.
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peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:35 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:18 am In this kind of environment, mental illness will be virtually nonexistent.
“Flash” wrote:Wait, what? How does mental illness get magicked away?
The way children are raised.
Wait, do you claim to have a child-rearing cure for autism and psychopathy?
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:44 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:35 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:18 am In this kind of environment, mental illness will be virtually nonexistent.
“Flash” wrote:Wait, what? How does mental illness get magicked away?
The way children are raised.
Wait, do you claim to have a child-rearing cure for autism and psychopathy?
If psychopathy is strictly genetics (not just a genetic predisposition or expression), then child-rearing within this new environment won't do anything, but if there is an environmental component, then yes, child-rearing would have an impact on how a child turns out. This new environment probably wouldn't change the rate of autism, although money would be freed up to do more investigation, and in that case, it may contribute to finding the cause.

The Interplay of Nature and Nurture

Dynamic Interaction: The development of psychopathy is not solely determined by genetics or environment but rather by their interaction. For instance, genetic vulnerabilities may only manifest under specific environmental conditions, while supportive environments can help reduce the impact of genetic predispositions.

Epigenetics: Environmental factors can also lead to epigenetic changes, which affect gene expression without altering the DNA sequence. This means that early adverse experiences can have lasting effects on how genes related to psychopathy are expressed.

In conclusion, psychopathy arises from a complex interplay of genetic and environmental factors, with both contributing to the development of this personality disorder. Understanding this relationship is crucial for developing effective prevention and intervention strategies.

https://biologyinsights.com/is-psychopa ... s-origins/
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peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:04 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:44 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:35 am



The way children are raised.
Wait, do you claim to have a child-rearing cure for autism and psychopathy?
If psychopathy is strictly genetics (not just a genetic predisposition or expression), then child-rearing within this new environment won't do anything, but if there is an environmental component, then yes, child-rearing would have an impact on how a child turns out. This new environment probably wouldn't change the rate of autism, although money would be freed up to do more investigation, and in that case, it may contribute to finding the cause.

The Interplay of Nature and Nurture

Dynamic Interaction: The development of psychopathy is not solely determined by genetics or environment but rather by their interaction. For instance, genetic vulnerabilities may only manifest under specific environmental conditions, while supportive environments can help reduce the impact of genetic predispositions.

Epigenetics: Environmental factors can also lead to epigenetic changes, which affect gene expression without altering the DNA sequence. This means that early adverse experiences can have lasting effects on how genes related to psychopathy are expressed.

In conclusion, psychopathy arises from a complex interplay of genetic and environmental factors, with both contributing to the development of this personality disorder. Understanding this relationship is crucial for developing effective prevention and intervention strategies.

https://biologyinsights.com/is-psychopa ... s-origins/
And what about other conditions, such as gender dysphoria? Does your answer to all life's ills fix that by enforcing old gender stereotypes as a fate, or by making people like Accelafine just accept that some women have penises now? This is the single issue that dominates her life,please give Accelafine a glimmer of hope, only you can help her.
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Re: New Discovery

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:39 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:04 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:44 am

Wait, do you claim to have a child-rearing cure for autism and psychopathy?
If psychopathy is strictly genetics (not just a genetic predisposition or expression), then child-rearing within this new environment won't do anything, but if there is an environmental component, then yes, child-rearing would have an impact on how a child turns out. This new environment probably wouldn't change the rate of autism, although money would be freed up to do more investigation, and in that case, it may contribute to finding the cause.

The Interplay of Nature and Nurture

Dynamic Interaction: The development of psychopathy is not solely determined by genetics or environment but rather by their interaction. For instance, genetic vulnerabilities may only manifest under specific environmental conditions, while supportive environments can help reduce the impact of genetic predispositions.

Epigenetics: Environmental factors can also lead to epigenetic changes, which affect gene expression without altering the DNA sequence. This means that early adverse experiences can have lasting effects on how genes related to psychopathy are expressed.

In conclusion, psychopathy arises from a complex interplay of genetic and environmental factors, with both contributing to the development of this personality disorder. Understanding this relationship is crucial for developing effective prevention and intervention strategies.

https://biologyinsights.com/is-psychopa ... s-origins/
FlashDangerpants wrote:And what about other conditions, such as gender dysphoria? Does your answer to all life's ills fix that by enforcing old gender stereotypes as a fate, or by making people like Accelafine just accept that some women have penises now? This is the single issue that dominates her life,please give Accelafine a glimmer of hope, only you can help her.
I entered this forum without any understanding of the underlying conflict between you and Accelafine.. Please don't bring me into it. Whatever they choose is up to them. Have you read nothing?
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Re: New Discovery

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peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:02 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:39 am
peacegirl wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:04 am

If psychopathy is strictly genetics (not just a genetic predisposition or expression), then child-rearing within this new environment won't do anything, but if there is an environmental component, then yes, child-rearing would have an impact on how a child turns out. This new environment probably wouldn't change the rate of autism, although money would be freed up to do more investigation, and in that case, it may contribute to finding the cause.

The Interplay of Nature and Nurture

Dynamic Interaction: The development of psychopathy is not solely determined by genetics or environment but rather by their interaction. For instance, genetic vulnerabilities may only manifest under specific environmental conditions, while supportive environments can help reduce the impact of genetic predispositions.

Epigenetics: Environmental factors can also lead to epigenetic changes, which affect gene expression without altering the DNA sequence. This means that early adverse experiences can have lasting effects on how genes related to psychopathy are expressed.

In conclusion, psychopathy arises from a complex interplay of genetic and environmental factors, with both contributing to the development of this personality disorder. Understanding this relationship is crucial for developing effective prevention and intervention strategies.

https://biologyinsights.com/is-psychopa ... s-origins/
FlashDangerpants wrote:And what about other conditions, such as gender dysphoria? Does your answer to all life's ills fix that by enforcing old gender stereotypes as a fate, or by making people like Accelafine just accept that some women have penises now? This is the single issue that dominates her life,please give Accelafine a glimmer of hope, only you can help her.
I entered this forum without any understanding of the underlying conflict between you and Accelafine.. Please don't bring me into it. Whatever they choose is up to them. Have you read nothing?
Ooof, for somebody with all the answers hidden behind a door that's hidden behind an invisible dragon, you don't seem to have much certainty.

It's up to them in that current minute. But everything that brings them to that minute is determined and everything after it too. So which minute do they set their identity in?
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