solving racism

[Age]

That's part of what shapes my behavior.

I do not know of a human behaviour that was not partly 'shaped' by previous behaviours and discriminative views or judging.

I've had pretty good success in this area, as it happens.

What is 'good success', here, based upon and relative to, exactly?

Every human behaviour is just, naturally, partly based upon previous behaviour, and others judging and/or discriminating, anyway. Therefore, in a sense, every human being could claim to have so-called 'good success' in having their 'current' behaviour 'shaped'.

But, what even is 'good' or 'bad' behaviour based up and on, exactly, anyway?

I apologize for confusing you.

'I', also, will apologize for 'you' being so confused, here.

By "good success", I meant that I have been discriminated "for" by others much more frequently than discriminated "against", likely because folks I interact with commonly view my behavior positively and rarely view it as a negative.

Why do 'you', still, continue to have negative behaviours for, exactly?

Also, and let 'us' not forget you never even answered, 'What are your views of 'good', and positive, and/or 'bad', and negative, behaviours based upon, exactly?'

As well as the other questions that you have not yet answered.

[Belinda]

Is racism psychological or socioeconomic? ChatGPT replied:-



Racism doesn’t come from a single cause — it’s the result of several overlapping drivers, some psychological and some socioeconomic, and they tend to reinforce each other over time.

1. Psychological factors

In-group vs. out-group bias (tribalism): Humans have an evolved tendency to form groups and view outsiders with suspicion.

Cognitive shortcuts: Stereotyping simplifies a complex world, but it’s often inaccurate and harmful.

Fear and threat perception: When people perceive danger (whether real or imagined) from another group, prejudice can rise.

Social identity needs: Boosting one’s self-esteem by devaluing others.

Scapegoating: Projecting personal or societal frustrations onto an “other.”

2. Socioeconomic factors

Economic competition: Prejudice can spike when groups compete for jobs, resources, or political influence.

Inequality and poverty: Structural disparities make it easier for people to accept narratives that blame another group.

Historical exploitation: Colonization, slavery, and segregation create long-lasting systemic imbalances.

Power structures: Those in power may promote racism to maintain their dominance or divide potential opposition.

How they interact

Economic downturn → heightened insecurity → more openness to xenophobic or racist rhetoric.

Long-term inequality → stereotypes reinforced through unequal opportunities → psychological biases deepen.

If you want a short answer: racism is both psychological and socioeconomic, but the psychological part makes it possible, and the socioeconomic part keeps it alive and institutionalized.

If you want, I can map out a feedback loop diagram showing exactly how these two feed into each other over time. It’s quite revealing.









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[LuckyR]

I do not know of a human behaviour that was not partly 'shaped' by previous behaviours and discriminative views or judging.


What is 'good success', here, based upon and relative to, exactly?

Every human behaviour is just, naturally, partly based upon previous behaviour, and others judging and/or discriminating, anyway. Therefore, in a sense, every human being could claim to have so-called 'good success' in having their 'current' behaviour 'shaped'.

But, what even is 'good' or 'bad' behaviour based up and on, exactly, anyway?

I apologize for confusing you.

'I', also, will apologize for 'you' being so confused, here.

By "good success", I meant that I have been discriminated "for" by others much more frequently than discriminated "against", likely because folks I interact with commonly view my behavior positively and rarely view it as a negative.

Why do 'you', still, continue to have negative behaviours for, exactly?

Also, and let 'us' not forget you never even answered, 'What are your views of 'good', and positive, and/or 'bad', and negative, behaviours based upon, exactly?'

As well as the other questions that you have not yet answered.

I never used the descriptor "good" nor "bad" to describe my behavior rather positive and negative specifically in relation to other folk's subjective opinion, that is I'm not trying to to use objective measures. Sorry.

As to why some individuals view my behavior as occasionally negative, since that is their subjective opinion, you'll have to ask them (not me). Why do some people not like vanilla ice cream and enjoy chocolate?

[MikeNovack]

Let's not use "good" or "bad" in a moral sense. Use say "right" and "wrong.

I'll try to give an example (good can be in an ethical sense OR good for purpose)

Thus Bob stole Nancy's ice cream cone. In response, Nancy picked a rock and threw it at Sally.
That action is bad (not good). Does not appear to be an action at all usefully addressing that Bob took her cone)
That action is wrong (not right). Wrong to injure a third party who has nothing to do with the situation.

Nancy picked up a rock and threw it at Bob
Could call that good, might be effective in getting Bob not to steal from her in the future.
Could be wrong, an excessive retaliation.
<< you might not like that second example -- but "respond tit for tat" might well be the most effective way to foster co-operation in a small group, repeated interactions between the individuals, part of "intuitive" morality learned as children. Groups whose culture had some other choice as "right" might have been at a competitive disadvantage.>>

[Age]

I apologize for confusing you.

'I', also, will apologize for 'you' being so confused, here.

By "good success", I meant that I have been discriminated "for" by others much more frequently than discriminated "against", likely because folks I interact with commonly view my behavior positively and rarely view it as a negative.

Why do 'you', still, continue to have negative behaviours for, exactly?

Also, and let 'us' not forget you never even answered, 'What are your views of 'good', and positive, and/or 'bad', and negative, behaviours based upon, exactly?'

As well as the other questions that you have not yet answered.

I never used the descriptor "good" nor "bad" to describe my behavior rather positive and negative specifically in relation to other folk's subjective opinion, that is I'm not trying to to use objective measures. Sorry.

And, just like you I used the descriptors 'positive' and 'negative' in regards to your behaviour. Sorry

As to why some individuals view my behavior as occasionally negative, since that is their subjective opinion, you'll have to ask them (not me).

But, I asked you, 'Why do 'you', still, continue to have, [or do], negative behaviours for, exactly?

Are you under some sort of delusion that you do not do wrong, or negative, things?

Why do some people not like vanilla ice cream and enjoy chocolate?

Because of the taste buds within the mouth, and, because of past experiences, obviously.

Now, why do you 'try to' detract and deflect answering the questions that I ask you.

[LuckyR]

'I', also, will apologize for 'you' being so confused, here.



Why do 'you', still, continue to have negative behaviours for, exactly?

Also, and let 'us' not forget you never even answered, 'What are your views of 'good', and positive, and/or 'bad', and negative, behaviours based upon, exactly?'

As well as the other questions that you have not yet answered.

I never used the descriptor "good" nor "bad" to describe my behavior rather positive and negative specifically in relation to other folk's subjective opinion, that is I'm not trying to to use objective measures. Sorry.

And, just like you I used the descriptors 'positive' and 'negative' in regards to your behaviour. Sorry

As to why some individuals view my behavior as occasionally negative, since that is their subjective opinion, you'll have to ask them (not me).

But, I asked you, 'Why do 'you', still, continue to have, [or do], negative behaviours for, exactly?

Are you under some sort of delusion that you do not do wrong, or negative, things?

Why do some people not like vanilla ice cream and enjoy chocolate?

Because of the taste buds within the mouth, and, because of past experiences, obviously.

Now, why do you 'try to' detract and deflect answering the questions that I ask you.

Why do I perform behaviors that other people view negatively? Well at first glance, I'm nothing special, I suppose I do them for the same mundane reasons everyone else, including yourself do them. I'm not claiming to have invented anything new. What's your understanding of your behavioral choices?

And BTW, its rude (a form of negative behavior) to ask personal questions of others while divulging nothing of yourself. So maybe your answer is social stunting.

[MikeNovack]

Because of the taste buds within the mouth, and, because of past experiences, obviously.

If by "past experiences" you mean what else was happening when first encountering those flavors, I'd say yes. Our brains are very good at learning associations.

For example, if your first encounters with chocolate ice cream were being fed it for desert while lying in pain in a hospital bed, the preference of your taste buds notwithstanding, I predict you will prefer vanilla to chocolate. You might even detest chocolate. In order not, you would have to "unlearn" the association over time.

[Age]

I never used the descriptor "good" nor "bad" to describe my behavior rather positive and negative specifically in relation to other folk's subjective opinion, that is I'm not trying to to use objective measures. Sorry.

And, just like you I used the descriptors 'positive' and 'negative' in regards to your behaviour. Sorry

As to why some individuals view my behavior as occasionally negative, since that is their subjective opinion, you'll have to ask them (not me).

But, I asked you, 'Why do 'you', still, continue to have, [or do], negative behaviours for, exactly?

Are you under some sort of delusion that you do not do wrong, or negative, things?

Why do some people not like vanilla ice cream and enjoy chocolate?

Because of the taste buds within the mouth, and, because of past experiences, obviously.

Now, why do you 'try to' detract and deflect answering the questions that I ask you.

Why do I perform behaviors that other people view negatively? Well at first glance, I'm nothing special, I suppose I do them for the same mundane reasons everyone else, including yourself do them. I'm not claiming to have invented anything new.

So, you just continue to do what is negative, and thus Wrong, in Life, for some, yet to be explained, so-called 'mundane reasons', correct?

What's your understanding of your behavioral choices?

Just what the simple irrefutable fact is, 'I' wanted to make them, and then just made them.

If, and when, 'you' also know, Who 'I' am, exactly, then 'you' would also have gained 'the understanding', here

And BTW, its rude (a form of negative behavior) to ask personal questions of others while divulging nothing of yourself. So maybe your answer is social stunting.

'Trying to' deflect and deceive, instead of just being open, honest, and forthright, is also a negative and Wrong behaviour, in Life.

[Age]

Because of the taste buds within the mouth, and, because of past experiences, obviously.

If by "past experiences" you mean what else was happening when first encountering those flavors, I'd say yes. Our brains are very good at learning associations.

For example, if your first encounters with chocolate ice cream were being fed it for desert while lying in pain in a hospital bed, the preference of your taste buds notwithstanding, I predict you will prefer vanilla to chocolate. You might even detest chocolate. In order not, you would have to "unlearn" the association over time.

Understanding, and knowing, really is simple and easy, hey?

[Belinda]

And, just like you I used the descriptors 'positive' and 'negative' in regards to your behaviour. Sorry


But, I asked you, 'Why do 'you', still, continue to have, [or do], negative behaviours for, exactly?

Are you under some sort of delusion that you do not do wrong, or negative, things?



Because of the taste buds within the mouth, and, because of past experiences, obviously.

Now, why do you 'try to' detract and deflect answering the questions that I ask you.

Why do I perform behaviors that other people view negatively? Well at first glance, I'm nothing special, I suppose I do them for the same mundane reasons everyone else, including yourself do them. I'm not claiming to have invented anything new.

So, you just continue to do what is negative, and thus Wrong, in Life, for some, yet to be explained, so-called 'mundane reasons', correct?

What's your understanding of your behavioral choices?

Just what the simple irrefutable fact is, 'I' wanted to make them, and then just made them.

If, and when, 'you' also know, Who 'I' am, exactly, then 'you' would also have gained 'the understanding', here

And BTW, its rude (a form of negative behavior) to ask personal questions of others while divulging nothing of yourself. So maybe your answer is social stunting.

'Trying to' deflect and deceive, instead of just being open, honest, and forthright, is also a negative and Wrong behaviour, in Life.

I've been reading Lucky's posts for years and they have always unvaryingly open , honest, forthright. If you disagree with Lucky or any other posts you must quote what precisely you disagree with.

It's true that it is bad manners to ask personal questions without taking your turn to say something about yourself.

[Age]

Why do I perform behaviors that other people view negatively? Well at first glance, I'm nothing special, I suppose I do them for the same mundane reasons everyone else, including yourself do them. I'm not claiming to have invented anything new.

So, you just continue to do what is negative, and thus Wrong, in Life, for some, yet to be explained, so-called 'mundane reasons', correct?

What's your understanding of your behavioral choices?

Just what the simple irrefutable fact is, 'I' wanted to make them, and then just made them.

If, and when, 'you' also know, Who 'I' am, exactly, then 'you' would also have gained 'the understanding', here

And BTW, its rude (a form of negative behavior) to ask personal questions of others while divulging nothing of yourself. So maybe your answer is social stunting.

'Trying to' deflect and deceive, instead of just being open, honest, and forthright, is also a negative and Wrong behaviour, in Life.

I've been reading Lucky's posts for years and they have always unvaryingly open , honest, forthright. If you disagree with Lucky or any other posts you must quote what precisely you disagree with.

It's true that it is bad manners to ask personal questions without taking your turn to say something about yourself.

I am not sure why you have been 'sucked into' the detraction, deception, and deflection, here, but I just asked the question,

'What even is 'racism', to you, exactly?'

To wit "luckyr" responded,

'Racism is discrimination based on "race".' And,

'Race, of course is a subjective term that has no objective meaning, that is it means whatever folks want it to mean. Or to put it a different way, races don't exist first, then individuals use racial distinction to discriminate. Instead individuals choose to discriminate first, then races are created along the lines thst the individual prefers to discriminate along'

Which, I have just been trying to get "luckyr" to elaborate and back up, and support. I would just prefer "luckyr" concentrated, and stopped 'trying to' deflect, and to deceive you readers, here.

[Belinda]

So, you just continue to do what is negative, and thus Wrong, in Life, for some, yet to be explained, so-called 'mundane reasons', correct?


Just what the simple irrefutable fact is, 'I' wanted to make them, and then just made them.

If, and when, 'you' also know, Who 'I' am, exactly, then 'you' would also have gained 'the understanding', here


'Trying to' deflect and deceive, instead of just being open, honest, and forthright, is also a negative and Wrong behaviour, in Life.

I've been reading Lucky's posts for years and they have always unvaryingly open , honest, forthright. If you disagree with Lucky or any other posts you must quote what precisely you disagree with.

It's true that it is bad manners to ask personal questions without taking your turn to say something about yourself.

I am not sure why you have been 'sucked into' the detraction, deception, and deflection, here, but I just asked the question,

'What even is 'racism', to you, exactly?'

To wit "luckyr" responded,

'Racism is discrimination based on "race".' And,

'Race, of course is a subjective term that has no objective meaning, that is it means whatever folks want it to mean. Or to put it a different way, races don't exist first, then individuals use racial distinction to discriminate. Instead individuals choose to discriminate first, then races are created along the lines thst the individual prefers to discriminate along'

Which, I have just been trying to get "luckyr" to elaborate and back up, and support. I would just prefer "luckyr" concentrated, and stopped 'trying to' deflect, and to deceive you readers, here.

No need to be rude to Lucky.

We could look up AI with that request for elaboration , but in Lucky's own words and with their own illustrations would be nice.

[Age]

I've been reading Lucky's posts for years and they have always unvaryingly open , honest, forthright. If you disagree with Lucky or any other posts you must quote what precisely you disagree with.

It's true that it is bad manners to ask personal questions without taking your turn to say something about yourself.

I am not sure why you have been 'sucked into' the detraction, deception, and deflection, here, but I just asked the question,

'What even is 'racism', to you, exactly?'

To wit "luckyr" responded,

'Racism is discrimination based on "race".' And,

'Race, of course is a subjective term that has no objective meaning, that is it means whatever folks want it to mean. Or to put it a different way, races don't exist first, then individuals use racial distinction to discriminate. Instead individuals choose to discriminate first, then races are created along the lines thst the individual prefers to discriminate along'

Which, I have just been trying to get "luckyr" to elaborate and back up, and support. I would just prefer "luckyr" concentrated, and stopped 'trying to' deflect, and to deceive you readers, here.

No need to be rude to Lucky.

Just so it becomes absolutely clear to every reader, here, I was never ever rude to "luckyr" in any way, shape, nor form.

What, exactly, was it in my writings for you to come to such a completely Wrong and Incorrect conclusion that I was?

We could look up AI with that request for elaboration ,

Why would I look up any thing's elaboration of another?

I much prefer to ask 'the one', directly, for 'their own elaboration' on what 'they', "themselves", have previously said or mentioned.

but in Lucky's own words and with their own illustrations would be nice.

I agree that if some one, here, says and writes some thing, then it would be so-called 'nice', and appropriate, that from 'their own words and/or illustrations' that they clarify, elaborate on, back up, and support their own views and positions. And, for the very obvious reasons.

[Belinda]

I am not sure why you have been 'sucked into' the detraction, deception, and deflection, here, but I just asked the question,

'What even is 'racism', to you, exactly?'

To wit "luckyr" responded,

'Racism is discrimination based on "race".' And,

'Race, of course is a subjective term that has no objective meaning, that is it means whatever folks want it to mean. Or to put it a different way, races don't exist first, then individuals use racial distinction to discriminate. Instead individuals choose to discriminate first, then races are created along the lines thst the individual prefers to discriminate along'

Which, I have just been trying to get "luckyr" to elaborate and back up, and support. I would just prefer "luckyr" concentrated, and stopped 'trying to' deflect, and to deceive you readers, here.

No need to be rude to Lucky.

Just so it becomes absolutely clear to every reader, here, I was never ever rude to "luckyr" in any way, shape, nor form.

What, exactly, was it in my writings for you to come to such a completely Wrong and Incorrect conclusion that I was?

We could look up AI with that request for elaboration ,

Why would I look up any thing's elaboration of another?

I much prefer to ask 'the one', directly, for 'their own elaboration' on what 'they', "themselves", have previously said or mentioned.

but in Lucky's own words and with their own illustrations would be nice.

I agree that if some one, here, says and writes some thing, then it would be so-called 'nice', and appropriate, that from 'their own words and/or illustrations' that they clarify, elaborate on, back up, and support their own views and positions. And, for the very obvious reasons.

Do you ever want to volunteer about something you like?

[Age]

No need to be rude to Lucky.

Just so it becomes absolutely clear to every reader, here, I was never ever rude to "luckyr" in any way, shape, nor form.

What, exactly, was it in my writings for you to come to such a completely Wrong and Incorrect conclusion that I was?

We could look up AI with that request for elaboration ,

Why would I look up any thing's elaboration of another?

I much prefer to ask 'the one', directly, for 'their own elaboration' on what 'they', "themselves", have previously said or mentioned.

but in Lucky's own words and with their own illustrations would be nice.

I agree that if some one, here, says and writes some thing, then it would be so-called 'nice', and appropriate, that from 'their own words and/or illustrations' that they clarify, elaborate on, back up, and support their own views and positions. And, for the very obvious reasons.

Do you ever want to volunteer about something you like?

I have been 'volunteering' what I like, continuously, throughout this forum since I arrived, here.

Which is, knowing that when you human beings become open, and remain Truly open, then you will, also, really begin to recognize, learn, comprehend, and understand, what is actually Irrefutably True, Right, Accurate, and Correct, in Life. Just as long as you also have curiosity to really want to learn more, and anew, are Truly honest, really want to change, for the better, and have let go of all of your beliefs and assumptions, then you too can not stop learning, as well.

Have you not noticed me very frequently volunteering what I like?

Again, what I like is to find people who are Honest, Open, and who seriously Want to change, for the betterment of all, so as to have peaceful discussions with.