Israel to allow foreign countries to drop aid into Gaza.

[Alexis Jacobi]

“…that YOU'VE managed to see through the bullshit and you know the true truth about this conflict

It is really a question, ultimately, of fundamental affiliation. To the degree that I “identify” with the project of America in the 21st century, and the degree to which my wealth and sustenance derives from it (neo-imperialism) is the degree to which I am implicated and complicit.

The “truth”? The truth is that there is a geo-political war that is on-going.

I could declare “righteous distance” and virtue signal that I abhor the truth of this reality. But that would be hypocritical, no?

The fact is I am well “off to the side” (though my sustenance does derive from The Empire).

[Age]

a Has the 'rest of the world' really had to wait for permission from one country just to drop aid to a group of people in another country?

b) If yes, then why, exactly?

c)Why can trucks carrying aid not just drive in from "israel"? ..

you mean from Israel?

I mean why can trucks carrying aid not just drive into “gaza“ through, or from, "israel'"?

d) What is a, supposed, so-called 'distribution problem'? (What is the 'this' word, in your sentence, referring to, exactly?)
the words, 'I'll repeat, ... (this is a distribution problem), especially in reply to me, is very disconcerting to say the least.

a) An airplane does NOT just fly over a country without getting permission. For any purpose.[/quote]

Maybe so, but who does one get permission from, to fly over the mediterranean sea to fly over “gaza“? Do you believe that the country "israel“ has to provide permission for airplanes to fly over “gaza“?

If no, then what is 'it', exactly, that you are trying to say and claim, here?

b) So it doesn't just get shot down?

Is it impossible, to you, to fly over “gaza“ without getting ’permission' from " Israel'?

you seem to not have understood what I have been saying and getting to, here, and, you seem to have completely misunderstood the question.

c) Why do you think they can't?

So, can aid carrying trucks just drive into "gaza" through, or from, "israel“ without getting permission?

Aid trucks are being driven in through Israel. The airdrop is NOT because Israel is blockading aid trucks but because airdrop is direct delivery solving the distribution problem.

Are you purposely misconstruing things, here?

Were you aware that this thread was about the heading that was provided?

d) Because these trucks, coming in from Israel or Egypt, might be unloaded into stockpiles (or the still loaded trailers left). And then it just sits there, undistributed. Note that at this point both Israel and Hamas can prevent distribution by the UN and other agencies if not the way they want it distributed.

So, again, who gave one country the 'right' to decide how, or if, aid is distributed, or not, in another country?

The Israelis won't allow it to first be given to Hamas to distribute

Once more, who is giving the people of 'one country' the 'right' to distribute aid, or not, to human beings in another country, and this question is being asked specifically in relation to when the former people have spend so much money and resources bombing and killing the human beings in the latter group.

(after keeping what they want of it). Hamas won't allow the aid to be directly distributed, forcing them to confiscate some from the people.

Those stockpiles of aid sitting undistributed are massive. Already INSIDE Gaza. Getting aid IN not the problem.

Once more, you have completely and utterly missed the point, and missing the mark, here.

[Age]

Consider the time and the environment we are in: we (i.e. the superpowers) are now in war: 4th and 5th generation warfare.

In this environment, what information you receive, and what impression you have, determines your outlook.

However, what you receive, and the means it comes to you, is intensely mediated by conniving minds.

In fact, you are now uncertain what perspective, whose perspective, can be trusted. And you the subject are (like Accelafine) in a near-constant overwrought state of disturbed emotionality, so much so that you really cannot make what we once thought of as ‘rational assessments’.

But let’s not blame the victim. One desired result of 4th and 5th generation warfare is to create and spread “fog” so that genuine and accurate assessments become difficult, perhaps impossible.

Then, what is left is the irascible subject, in such a state of confusion that whatever “sophistry” projected is received, integrated, believed.

you used the 'you' word fives times above, here. Who are you talking to, and/or referring to, exactly?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Exactly? How exactly do you mean?

[Age]

Exactly? How exactly do you mean?

Exactly as you can be.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Have you ever handled an Exacto knife? Am I wrong to believe you have a reason for seeking such exactitude?

[Impenitent]

model behavior discussions could be in the ethics section

-Imp

[accelafine]

It would depend on my “affiliation du jour”. I have many good reasons to ally myself with “the Jewish historical project” (and in all honesty I was once a pretty avid Zionist).

Other times, and there are realists who present me with convincing arguments laden with both rational and emotional charge, I consider that Islam is, among the irrational religions, a more dangerous irrationalism and the nut-jobs must be beaten back.

I could present pretty rational, historically-based and largely rational arguments by some historians that Islam is a true danger to Europe.

But then there is the FACT that Israel’s Zionist project has been universally negative in the region. That it is, truly, a colonial branch (or tentacle) of the Occident.

Once in a Syrian restaurant I mentioned to a man who loved his religion, and his region, that “the Western powers are remodeling the Middle East” in a very off-handed tone, as if it were natural, inevitable, necessary.

I saw him struggle with what I said. One because it is true. But also because it as an act is thoroughly against all notion of sovereignty. It is as if I said “I will remodel you”.

Overall I think the project of Zionism will turn out badly for Jewry. But you see history, and God himself (“”) is the author of Jewish tribulation.

The damndest thing (or one bizarre not-fun fact) is that at the Nova festival where Israeli youth took psychedelics and danced all night stoned, is that it was under the gaze of a giant Buddha statue: exactly what Yahweh punishes Jews for mercilessly! Falling away, idolatry.

And then, like a scene out of a nightmare Wizard of Oz take-off, flocks of armed Islamic monkeys jacked up on amphetamines soared out of “the open-air prison” and mercilessly took their (and God’s) revenge on the terrified youths.

Wow. If you used to be an 'avid Zionist' the you must be incredibly old--as in the oldest person who ever existed

[accelafine]

Consider the time and the environment we are in: we (i.e. the superpowers) are now in war: 4th and 5th generation warfare.

In this environment, what information you receive, and what impression you have, determines your outlook.

However, what you receive, and the means it comes to you, is intensely mediated by conniving minds.

In fact, you are now uncertain what perspective, whose perspective, can be trusted. And you the subject are (like Accelafine) in a near-constant overwrought state of disturbed emotionality, so much so that you really cannot make what we once thought of as ‘rational assessments’.

But let’s not blame the victim. One desired result of 4th and 5th generation warfare is to create and spread “fog” so that genuine and accurate assessments become difficult, perhaps impossible.

Then, what is left is the irascible subject, in such a state of confusion that whatever “sophistry” projected is received, integrated, believed.

I largely agree with this, but also wonder if you feel certain which side (if any) you support most / least in this conflict. There's a hint in the way you've written this like information can't be trusted - which I get, that's fine - but that YOU'VE managed to see through the bullshit and you know the true truth about this conflict. Maybe I'm reading too much between the lines, but ... do you? Do you feel that you can see through the bullshit? If so, what's the right answer?

What exactly are you 'agreeing' with?

[Flannel Jesus]

What exactly are you 'agreeing' with?

The primary message of that point is that the information coming to us, from any side, is significantly filtered, sometimes altered doctored and fabricated, and so it's hard / impossible to put your full trust in anything you hear.

I mean there are still a handful of what I think are effectively universally agreed facts, but there's enough bullshit in the fog of war that it is a genuine challenge to make a complete rational assessment of the situation.

Now obviously some people won't feel that way, but is that because they've managed to see through the fog of war somehow, or because the propaganda they consume has been effective enough to convince them they can see through it? I think it's the latter for any civilian - if you're convinced you can see through the fog of war here, you're probably a victim of propaganda.

[accelafine]

What exactly are you 'agreeing' with?

The primary message of that point is that the information coming to us, from any side, is significantly filtered, sometimes altered doctored and fabricated, and so it's hard / impossible to put your full trust in anything you hear.

I mean there are still a handful of what I think are effectively universally agreed facts, but there's enough bullshit in the fog of war that it is a genuine challenge to make a complete rational assessment of the situation.

Now obviously some people won't feel that way, but is that because they've managed to see through the fog of war somehow, or because the propaganda they consume has been effective enough to convince them they can see through it? I think it's the latter for any civilian - if you're convinced you can see through the fog of war here, you're probably a victim of propaganda.

Weird the way so many people are incapable of differentiating propaganda from facts and logic. Perhaps they are just thick?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Wow. If you used to be an 'avid Zionist' then you must be incredibly old--as in the oldest person who ever existed

Yes! I predate even Don Señor Yahweh …

[Flannel Jesus]

What exactly are you 'agreeing' with?

The primary message of that point is that the information coming to us, from any side, is significantly filtered, sometimes altered doctored and fabricated, and so it's hard / impossible to put your full trust in anything you hear.

I mean there are still a handful of what I think are effectively universally agreed facts, but there's enough bullshit in the fog of war that it is a genuine challenge to make a complete rational assessment of the situation.

Now obviously some people won't feel that way, but is that because they've managed to see through the fog of war somehow, or because the propaganda they consume has been effective enough to convince them they can see through it? I think it's the latter for any civilian - if you're convinced you can see through the fog of war here, you're probably a victim of propaganda.

Weird the way so many people are incapable of differentiating propaganda from facts and logic. Perhaps they are just thick?

If you think you're invulnerable to it, you've already succumbed to it.

[accelafine]

The primary message of that point is that the information coming to us, from any side, is significantly filtered, sometimes altered doctored and fabricated, and so it's hard / impossible to put your full trust in anything you hear.

I mean there are still a handful of what I think are effectively universally agreed facts, but there's enough bullshit in the fog of war that it is a genuine challenge to make a complete rational assessment of the situation.

Now obviously some people won't feel that way, but is that because they've managed to see through the fog of war somehow, or because the propaganda they consume has been effective enough to convince them they can see through it? I think it's the latter for any civilian - if you're convinced you can see through the fog of war here, you're probably a victim of propaganda.

Weird the way so many people are incapable of differentiating propaganda from facts and logic. Perhaps they are just thick?

If you think you're invulnerable to it, you've already succumbed to it.

I didn't say that, but I'm pretty sure you know what I mean. It is possible to read up on actual historical events, or recognise obviously fake photos and videos. 'Interesting' that the actual footage of Oct 7, which was streamed LIVE by the monsters who did it, is called 'fake' or ignored entirely by the pro plasticine mob, yet they weirdly believe and redistribute every bit of bullshit that Hamas can come up with. 'Funny' that. What do they think happened on that day? If they can't bring themselves to deny it happened then they say Israelis did it to themselves, or that none of the really horrific stuff happened (apparently all those people were humanely euthanised in a painless way). Of course none of that makes any logical sense so I'm not going to bother even trying to make it make sense.
It's only simple logic, that if someone has to distribute AI images of 'starving people' then there obviously can't be any starving people to take actual photos or videos of. Duh! Next they will be saying that the images of starving people released from the Nazi concenctration camps were 'AI generated' or that they were actually 'Palestinians' --and the 'free plasticine' wokies will lap that up too. It's no more absurd than the stuff they have been lapping up and infesting the internet with.

[Alexis Jacobi]

I am uncertain if more information helps us to clear our vision (of events) or results in massive complications that make it even more difficult to understand …

But the background to the Oct 7th attacks is little known. I.e. that there is strong evidence of a Jewish-Israeli plan to literally reconstruct the Third Temple. The Gazan attack was named Al Aksa Flood.

Again, so strange that Israeli youth danced stoned under an Idol when the Flying Monkeys came swooping in.

There are so many bizarre levels.

Accelafine, have you ever considered signing up for The Course?