Why AI Will Enslave Mankind by Mankind's Choice

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Imprecise is a biased interpretation. You seem confident in limiting existence to a number of facts that are an infinitesimally small non zero fraction of what is potentially and actually available.

Such a small world view is akin to delusion by nature of making small viewpoints grandiose beyond their natural scale.

You would know.

Come on now, your smarter than that...

I am not sure you can make such a statement since your idolization of your cognitive abilities limits your reality to strictly just "you" as you seem to inhabit the role of judge/jury/executioner because of a few self convincing interpretations you hold so dear.

Try again...and take your time now, relax, breath and come up with something better....

I can't possibly be done to your satisfaction. Come up with a ufo. And I have seen some incredible, gob smacking film.

[Eodnhoj7]

You would know.

Come on now, your smarter than that...

I am not sure you can make such a statement since your idolization of your cognitive abilities limits your reality to strictly just "you" as you seem to inhabit the role of judge/jury/executioner because of a few self convincing interpretations you hold so dear.

Try again...and take your time now, relax, breath and come up with something better....

I can't possibly be done to your satisfaction. Come up with a ufo. And I have seen some incredible. gob smacking film.

And then it would be blamed as an ai creation. Filming in the current age doesn't constitute proof as it once did in the past. ...it can't possibly be done to your satisfaction.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Come on now, your smarter than that...

I am not sure you can make such a statement since your idolization of your cognitive abilities limits your reality to strictly just "you" as you seem to inhabit the role of judge/jury/executioner because of a few self convincing interpretations you hold so dear.

Try again...and take your time now, relax, breath and come up with something better....

I can't possibly be done to your satisfaction. Come up with a ufo. And I have seen some incredible. gob smacking film.

And then it would be blamed as an ai creation. Filming in the current age doesn't constitute proof as it once did in the past. ...it can't possibly be done to your satisfaction.

I don't attribute what I've seen on film pre-dating AI by 40 years as false. And neither will I if you show me anything at all. I have good will. I take you at your word. I'm not some raving gainsayer.

[Eodnhoj7]

I can't possibly be done to your satisfaction. Come up with a ufo. And I have seen some incredible. gob smacking film.

And then it would be blamed as an ai creation. Filming in the current age doesn't constitute proof as it once did in the past. ...it can't possibly be done to your satisfaction.

I don't attribute what I've seen on film pre-dating AI by 40 years as false. And neither will I if you show me anything at all. I have good will. I take you at your word. I'm not some raving gainsayer.

Good....that is all.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

And then it would be blamed as an ai creation. Filming in the current age doesn't constitute proof as it once did in the past. ...it can't possibly be done to your satisfaction.

I don't attribute what I've seen on film pre-dating AI by 40 years as false. And neither will I if you show me anything at all. I have good will. I take you at your word. I'm not some raving gainsayer.

Good....that is all.

There was an astounding BBC Horizon program 45-odd years ago that had the best footage and accounts* I've ever seen, bar one. The one you can't see any more. From an Apollo mission. Which is extremely suspicious! And I don't do conspiracy theories. They rely on a presumption of competence. Utterly spellbinding film of a crew looking out on something looking back. Is what it looks like. Is what it really looks like.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesha ... t_incident 'The UK Ministry of Defence has stated that the event posed no threat to national security, and therefore, it was never investigated as a security matter.' was jaw dropping.

Extraordinary claims, >6 sigmata, require extraordinary evidence, >6 sigmata. This is that important. Nearly as important as God.

[Eodnhoj7]

I don't attribute what I've seen on film pre-dating AI by 40 years as false. And neither will I if you show me anything at all. I have good will. I take you at your word. I'm not some raving gainsayer.

Good....that is all.

There was an astounding BBC Horizon program 45-odd years ago that had the best footage and accounts* I've ever seen, bar one. The one you can't see any more. From an Apollo mission. Which is extremely suspicious! And I don't do conspiracy theories. They rely on a presumption of competence. Utterly spellbinding film of a crew looking out on something looking back. Is what it looks like. Is what it really looks like.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesha ... t_incident 'The UK Ministry of Defence has stated that the event posed no threat to national security, and therefore, it was never investigated as a security matter.' was jaw dropping.

Extraordinary claims, >6 sigmata, require extraordinary evidence, >6 sigmata. This is that important. Nearly as important as God.

Yeah my experience was better...no disrespect to theirs. The incidents I have experienced where targeted at me specifically, the incidents of others in my vicinity where targeted at them specifically. These where deeply personal events. I do not know the rhyme or reason behind them though...wish I had more answers...but I don't.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Good....that is all.

There was an astounding BBC Horizon program 45-odd years ago that had the best footage and accounts* I've ever seen, bar one. The one[**] you can't see any more. From an Apollo mission. Which is extremely suspicious! And I don't do conspiracy theories. They rely on a presumption of competence. Utterly spellbinding film of a crew looking out on something looking back. Is what it looks like. Is what it really looks like.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesha ... t_incident 'The UK Ministry of Defence has stated that the event posed no threat to national security, and therefore, it was never investigated as a security matter.' was jaw dropping.

Extraordinary claims, >6 sigmata, require extraordinary evidence, >6 sigmata. This is that important. Nearly as important as God.

Yeah my experience was better...no disrespect to theirs. The incidents I have experienced where targeted at me specifically, the incidents of others in my vicinity where targeted at them specifically. These where deeply personal events. I do not know the rhyme or reason behind them though...wish I had more answers...but I don't.

I sympathise, as with the Richard Dreyfus' Roy Neary character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. And other religious and fay experiences of intense power. My maternal grandmother chilled my blood as a 20 year old skeptik. I come from the Bermuda Triangle - Uri Geller generation. Deluded myself in to a cult for 26+ years.

[**] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sight ... uter_space not listed here! I've seen it, didn't dream it, probably 20 years ago.

In H2G2, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Ford Prefect describes mischievous aliens proving their existence to lone individuals with no lasting evidence.

* again, possibly here https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8n7omq

[Eodnhoj7]

There was an astounding BBC Horizon program 45-odd years ago that had the best footage and accounts* I've ever seen, bar one. The one[**] you can't see any more. From an Apollo mission. Which is extremely suspicious! And I don't do conspiracy theories. They rely on a presumption of competence. Utterly spellbinding film of a crew looking out on something looking back. Is what it looks like. Is what it really looks like.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesha ... t_incident 'The UK Ministry of Defence has stated that the event posed no threat to national security, and therefore, it was never investigated as a security matter.' was jaw dropping.

Extraordinary claims, >6 sigmata, require extraordinary evidence, >6 sigmata. This is that important. Nearly as important as God.

Yeah my experience was better...no disrespect to theirs. The incidents I have experienced where targeted at me specifically, the incidents of others in my vicinity where targeted at them specifically. These where deeply personal events. I do not know the rhyme or reason behind them though...wish I had more answers...but I don't.

I sympathise, as with the Richard Dreyfus' Roy Neary character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. And other religious and fay experiences of intense power. My maternal grandmother chilled my blood as a 20 year old skeptik. I come from the Bermuda Triangle - Uri Geller generation. Deluded myself in to a cult for 26+ years.

[**] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sight ... uter_space not listed here! I've seen it, didn't dream it, probably 20 years ago.

In H2G2, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Ford Prefect describes mischievous aliens proving their existence to lone individuals with no lasting evidence.

* again, possibly here https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8n7omq

Over the years I have tried to percieve patterns within the experiences to see if I could derive anything "useful" or at least gain clarity. It wasn't so simple as a "grey" just appearing in my case, I genuinely wish it was that simple, but they had some form of cryptic nature I still cannot fully unravel.

The only consistent pattern I found was during that specific time frame I was in severe emotional turmoil.

My experiences where as follows:

1. 4 seperate events over the course of 8 to 12 months.
.
2. All in my bedroom while I was awake, trying to sleep but could not.

3. A flash of light followed by a woosh sound. The light created no shadows and came out of the walls and every physical surface (table, chairs, etc.).

4. Geometric symbols made of light on walls or ceiling:
4a. A trapezoid on top of another trapezoid forming a larger trapezoid between them.
4b. Two lines with a pulsating electrical arc between them.
4c. A vague pulsating disc.
4d. Arm over eyes trying to sleep and light flashed through it with simultaneous whooshing noise.

5. Seperate witnesses claiming strange buzzing noises or hovering 8ft long "bird" during the incidents.


Those where mine. Other people I know have had similar experiences or just flat out seen a hovering disc shooting beams of light into the ground. One story involved a tall slender dark figure near a group of deer bones/carcasses.

These events occurred over a span of 30 years, between all of us spaced apart, within a quarter mile radius.

It's been a mystery I have been trying to unravel for about twenty years and every few years a new "event" occurs.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Yeah my experience was better...no disrespect to theirs. The incidents I have experienced where targeted at me specifically, the incidents of others in my vicinity where targeted at them specifically. These where deeply personal events. I do not know the rhyme or reason behind them though...wish I had more answers...but I don't.

I sympathise, as with the Richard Dreyfus' Roy Neary character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. And other religious and fay experiences of intense power. My maternal grandmother chilled my blood as a 20 year old skeptik. I come from the Bermuda Triangle - Uri Geller generation. Deluded myself in to a cult for 26+ years.

[**] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sight ... uter_space not listed here! I've seen it, didn't dream it, probably 20 years ago.

In H2G2, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Ford Prefect describes mischievous aliens proving their existence to lone individuals with no lasting evidence.

* again, possibly here https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8n7omq

Over the years I have tried to percieve patterns within the experiences to see if I could derive anything "useful" or at least gain clarity. It wasn't so simple as a "grey" just appearing in my case, I genuinely wish it was that simple, but they had some form of cryptic nature I still cannot fully unravel.

The only consistent pattern I found was during that specific time frame I was in severe emotional turmoil.

My experiences where as follows:

1. 4 seperate events over the course of 8 to 12 months.
.
2. All in my bedroom while I was awake, trying to sleep but could not.

3. A flash of light followed by a woosh sound. The light created no shadows and came out of the walls and every physical surface (table, chairs, etc.).

4. Geometric symbols made of light on walls or ceiling:
4a. A trapezoid on top of another trapezoid forming a larger trapezoid between them.
4b. Two lines with a pulsating electrical arc between them.
4c. A vague pulsating disc.
4d. Arm over eyes trying to sleep and light flashed through it with simultaneous whooshing noise.

5. Seperate witnesses claiming strange buzzing noises or hovering 8ft long "bird" during the incidents.


Those where mine. Other people I know have had similar experiences or just flat out seen a hovering disc shooting beams of light into the ground. One story involved a tall slender dark figure near a group of deer bones/carcasses.

These events occurred over a span of 30 years, between all of us spaced apart, within a quarter mile radius.

It's been a mystery I have been trying to unravel for about twenty years and every few years a new "event" occurs.

Thank you very much for vulnerably, objectively sharing those most powerful experiences.

Was there any pain? You mention none, so I assume not. Have you ever suffered from migraines?

Might I ask how old you and you group were?

[Eodnhoj7]

I sympathise, as with the Richard Dreyfus' Roy Neary character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. And other religious and fay experiences of intense power. My maternal grandmother chilled my blood as a 20 year old skeptik. I come from the Bermuda Triangle - Uri Geller generation. Deluded myself in to a cult for 26+ years.

[**] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sight ... uter_space not listed here! I've seen it, didn't dream it, probably 20 years ago.

In H2G2, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Ford Prefect describes mischievous aliens proving their existence to lone individuals with no lasting evidence.

* again, possibly here https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8n7omq

Over the years I have tried to percieve patterns within the experiences to see if I could derive anything "useful" or at least gain clarity. It wasn't so simple as a "grey" just appearing in my case, I genuinely wish it was that simple, but they had some form of cryptic nature I still cannot fully unravel.

The only consistent pattern I found was during that specific time frame I was in severe emotional turmoil.

My experiences where as follows:

1. 4 seperate events over the course of 8 to 12 months.
.
2. All in my bedroom while I was awake, trying to sleep but could not.

3. A flash of light followed by a woosh sound. The light created no shadows and came out of the walls and every physical surface (table, chairs, etc.).

4. Geometric symbols made of light on walls or ceiling:
4a. A trapezoid on top of another trapezoid forming a larger trapezoid between them.
4b. Two lines with a pulsating electrical arc between them.
4c. A vague pulsating disc.
4d. Arm over eyes trying to sleep and light flashed through it with simultaneous whooshing noise.

5. Seperate witnesses claiming strange buzzing noises or hovering 8ft long "bird" during the incidents.


Those where mine. Other people I know have had similar experiences or just flat out seen a hovering disc shooting beams of light into the ground. One story involved a tall slender dark figure near a group of deer bones/carcasses.

These events occurred over a span of 30 years, between all of us spaced apart, within a quarter mile radius.

It's been a mystery I have been trying to unravel for about twenty years and every few years a new "event" occurs.

Thank you very much for vulnerably, objectively sharing those most powerful experiences.

Was there any pain? You mention none, so I assume not. Have you ever suffered from migraines?

Might I ask how old you and you group were?

No pain from the experience. No migraines from the experience or prior.

The group ranged from 10 to 60. A 10 year old was targeted in one. The adults targeted individually where 50ish. My experiences where around mid twenties.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Over the years I have tried to percieve patterns within the experiences to see if I could derive anything "useful" or at least gain clarity. It wasn't so simple as a "grey" just appearing in my case, I genuinely wish it was that simple, but they had some form of cryptic nature I still cannot fully unravel.

The only consistent pattern I found was during that specific time frame I was in severe emotional turmoil.

My experiences where as follows:

1. 4 seperate events over the course of 8 to 12 months.
.
2. All in my bedroom while I was awake, trying to sleep but could not.

3. A flash of light followed by a woosh sound. The light created no shadows and came out of the walls and every physical surface (table, chairs, etc.).

4. Geometric symbols made of light on walls or ceiling:
4a. A trapezoid on top of another trapezoid forming a larger trapezoid between them.
4b. Two lines with a pulsating electrical arc between them.
4c. A vague pulsating disc.
4d. Arm over eyes trying to sleep and light flashed through it with simultaneous whooshing noise.

5. Seperate witnesses claiming strange buzzing noises or hovering 8ft long "bird" during the incidents.


Those where mine. Other people I know have had similar experiences or just flat out seen a hovering disc shooting beams of light into the ground. One story involved a tall slender dark figure near a group of deer bones/carcasses.

These events occurred over a span of 30 years, between all of us spaced apart, within a quarter mile radius.

It's been a mystery I have been trying to unravel for about twenty years and every few years a new "event" occurs.

Thank you very much for vulnerably, objectively sharing those most powerful experiences.

Was there any pain? You mention none, so I assume not. Have you ever suffered from migraines?

Might I ask how old you and you group were?

No pain from the experience. No migraines from the experience or prior.

The group ranged from 10 to 60. A 10 year old was targeted in one. The adults targeted individually where 50ish. My experiences where around mid twenties.

Thank you again.

So how many people in that quarter mile radius were affected? Out of the total population?

How were they related? Family, friends, neighbours?

Sorry, rhetorical questions. Feel the need for some basic sociological data.

[Eodnhoj7]

Thank you very much for vulnerably, objectively sharing those most powerful experiences.

Was there any pain? You mention none, so I assume not. Have you ever suffered from migraines?

Might I ask how old you and you group were?

No pain from the experience. No migraines from the experience or prior.

The group ranged from 10 to 60. A 10 year old was targeted in one. The adults targeted individually where 50ish. My experiences where around mid twenties.

Thank you again.

So how many people in that quarter mile radius were affected? Out of the total population?

How were they related? Family, friends, neighbours?

Sorry, rhetorical questions. Feel the need for some basic sociological data.

No problem, will take any perspective.

About 7 to 8 people.

Quarter mile radius would contain about 15.

Family, friends/neighbors.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

No pain from the experience. No migraines from the experience or prior.

The group ranged from 10 to 60. A 10 year old was targeted in one. The adults targeted individually where 50ish. My experiences where around mid twenties.

Thank you again.

So how many people in that quarter mile radius were affected? Out of the total population?

How were they related? Family, friends, neighbours?

Sorry, rhetorical questions. Feel the need for some basic sociological data.

No problem, will take any perspective.

About 7 to 8 people.

Quarter mile radius would contain about 15.

Family, friends/neighbors.

I should leave it there in terms of data. Thanks.

Have you fully documented all of this? Gathered all comparative data? That's rhetorical.

Piecing the elements all together and granting the maximum positive propositional value to them; i.e. assuming an alien intrusion, would ultimately require technology based on unknown physics; extreme, >6 sigmata, with the irrelevance, the circumventing of 4D spacetime distances, as alien communication according to the known laws of physics, and the limits they place on technology, economics, politics, is absolutely impossible. It would also require a similar evolutionary development in intelligence and morality, which are inversely related beyond ourselves: these aliens are immoral to us. The smarter the WORSE.

[accelafine]

I don't attribute what I've seen on film pre-dating AI by 40 years as false. And neither will I if you show me anything at all. I have good will. I take you at your word. I'm not some raving gainsayer.

Good....that is all.

There was an astounding BBC Horizon program 45-odd years ago that had the best footage and accounts* I've ever seen, bar one. The one you can't see any more. From an Apollo mission. Which is extremely suspicious! And I don't do conspiracy theories. They rely on a presumption of competence. Utterly spellbinding film of a crew looking out on something looking back. Is what it looks like. Is what it really looks like.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesha ... t_incident 'The UK Ministry of Defence has stated that the event posed no threat to national security, and therefore, it was never investigated as a security matter.' was jaw dropping.

Extraordinary claims, >6 sigmata, require extraordinary evidence, >6 sigmata. This is that important. Nearly as important as God.

Poms are a weird lot. They like to play their little eccentric games. I suppose you think crop circles are made by aliens too, even after the men who started the 'phenomenon' admitted it and demonstrated how they made them

[Eodnhoj7]

Thank you again.

So how many people in that quarter mile radius were affected? Out of the total population?

How were they related? Family, friends, neighbours?

Sorry, rhetorical questions. Feel the need for some basic sociological data.

No problem, will take any perspective.

About 7 to 8 people.

Quarter mile radius would contain about 15.

Family, friends/neighbors.

I should leave it there in terms of data. Thanks.

Have you fully documented all of this? Gathered all comparative data? That's rhetorical.

Piecing the elements all together and granting the maximum positive propositional value to them; i.e. assuming an alien intrusion, would ultimately require technology based on unknown physics; extreme, >6 sigmata, with the irrelevance, the circumventing of 4D spacetime distances, as alien communication according to the known laws of physics, and the limits they place on technology, economics, politics, is absolutely impossible. It would also require a similar evolutionary development in intelligence and morality, which are inversely related beyond ourselves: these aliens are immoral to us. The smarter the WORSE.

Memory is clear. You don't forget such experiences.

You are assuming our current models of physics are have a strict evolutionary curves, they are mere contexts open to expansion....one small shift in interpretation and a whole new physics paradigm emerges thus relative a evolution of 1000 years can be reduced to a 10 year span.

Similar evolutionary development is not necessary given their circumstances of evolution may be different as well as the same applied argument above.