Christianity is a violent religion

[MikeNovack]

The title of this forum topic is peculiar.

WHAT is the proposition? That all Christian sects are violent? That's obvious hogwash. Shall I start a list of counter examples? Quakers, Amish, Doukhobors, Mennonites, Catholic Workers, ............

[popeye1945]

The title of this forum topic is peculiar.

WHAT is the proposition? That all Christian sects are violent? That's obvious hogwash. Shall I start a list of counter examples? Quakers, Amish, Doukhobors, Mennonites, Catholic Workers, ............

All the holy scriptures of the three desert religions are extremely violent. The concept of humanity when these were written was in the process of formation, and religion was, in part, part of that process. The writings were a blueprint for living in the world over two thousand years ago, and the nutty believers of our time wish to use it for living in the modern world. As I have stated elsewhere, Judaism and Christianity have learned to ignore the most barbaric part of their scriptures. Islam, however, still follows a warrior god of violent aggression towards unbelievers of Islam. Islam is an echo of the seventh century in the modern world, which seems to the citizens of the West to be truly rat shit crazy.

[ThinkOfOne]

The title of this forum topic is peculiar.

WHAT is the proposition? That all Christian sects are violent? That's obvious hogwash. Shall I start a list of counter examples? Quakers, Amish, Doukhobors, Mennonites, Catholic Workers, ............

From what I can tell, the poster is a Christianophobe. Christianophobia is rooted in an irrational bigotry against all Christians. They paint all Christians with the same brush: to wit all Christians are violent.

For all intents and purposes, Christianophobia is the analog to Islamophobia which is rooted in an irrational bigotry against all Muslims. They paint all Muslims with the same brush: to wit all Muslims are violent.

At their core, Islamophobes and Christianophobes are the same. Each holding an irrational fear of the other. Each holding simplistic views of the other; typically, holding simplistic views in general. Each as bad as the other with a tendency toward fearmongering if not violence. In my experience, Islamophobes are much more prevalent - certainly the most vocal.

[Impenitent]

tic tac toe (noughts and crosses) breeds "o" phobia half the time

-Imp

[Walker]

At their core, Islamophobes and Christianophobes are the same. Each holding an irrational fear of the other. Each holding simplistic views of the other; typically, holding simplistic views in general. Each as bad as the other with a tendency toward fearmongering if not violence. In my experience, Islamophobes are much more prevalent - certainly the most vocal.

”Allahu akbar!” … shouted in a public place means “better duck quick!” to Western ears because of prudence, not ignorance.

And who’s fault is that?

Shouting “God is great,” in public can cause the hairs to stand up on the back of an atheist neck, but for a different reason than “better duck.”

Simple, true and rational with life as the measure.

[popeye1945]

At their core, Islamophobes and Christianophobes are the same. Each holding an irrational fear of the other. Each holding simplistic views of the other; typically, holding simplistic views in general. Each as bad as the other with a tendency toward fearmongering if not violence. In my experience, Islamophobes are much more prevalent - certainly the most vocal.

”Allahu akbar!” … shouted in a public place means “better duck quick!” to Western ears because of prudence, not ignorance.

And who’s fault is that?

Shouting “God is great,” in public can cause the hairs to stand up on the back of an atheist neck, but for a different reason than “better duck.”

Simple, true and rational with life as the measure.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Have you ever read the Quran, the scripture, and the Hadith? They read like recipe books for the creation of psychopaths. Its believers are frightened to death not to believe; if you cease believing or try to change your religion, the punishment is death. They kill their daughters for looking at boys, honor killings, stone people to death for suspected adultery, and say quite plainly they will kill you if you do not become one of them. Still, it is politically incorrect to call a duck a duck by saying this is religious insanity. This is cancer moving into the West, and the West needs to take some chemotherapy before it literally kills civilization. Do you wish to journey back to the seventh century and enjoy a culture of violent nomads? Call it for what it is, insanity, religious insanity, or be politically correct and roll over and die. The other desert religions, over time, learn to ignore the most barbaric aspects of their holy scripture, Islam embraces this seventh-century mad as a hatter death cult.

"If we are to survive as a species, we must overcome faith." Carl Sagan

[Veritas Aequitas]

The title of this forum topic is peculiar.

WHAT is the proposition? That all Christian sects are violent? That's obvious hogwash. Shall I start a list of counter examples? Quakers, Amish, Doukhobors, Mennonites, Catholic Workers, ............

From what I can tell, the poster is a Christianophobe. Christianophobia is rooted in an irrational bigotry against all Christians. They paint all Christians with the same brush: to wit all Christians are violent.

For all intents and purposes, Christianophobia is the analog to Islamophobia which is rooted in an irrational bigotry against all Muslims. They paint all Muslims with the same brush: to wit all Muslims are violent.

At their core, Islamophobes and Christianophobes are the same. Each holding an irrational fear of the other. Each holding simplistic views of the other; typically, holding simplistic views in general. Each as bad as the other with a tendency toward fearmongering if not violence. In my experience, Islamophobes are much more prevalent - certainly the most vocal.

Your thinking is too shallow.
It is obvious there is a big difference between an ideology and its followers.

For example, Nazism is an evil ideology thus fearing of Nazism based on the empirical evidence it had killed > 6 millions Jews and others based on its Master Race ideology is very rational. The fear of Nazism is not nazimophobia. There may be anger and condemnation at some Germans but that is not bigotry against all Germans. No ordinary Germans were persecuted after WWW II.

Now, the ideology of Islam at its core is worst than Nazism, where Islam claim all Muslims are the Master over non-believers. The text of Islam has more anti-semitic themes in % than the Main Kempf:

Here is the data on the Trilogy texts and the Jews. Notice that the Trilogy has more Jew hatred than Mein Kampf.
http://www.cspipublishing.com/statistic ... itism.html

Islam permit believers to kill non-Muslims upon the slightest threat to their belief, faith and religion -Quran 5:33. The justification for this is so evident, you can test it by merely drawing of cartoons of the prophet in any town square in Afghanistan or any Muslim majority country.

Based on empirical evidence and the doctrines of Islam, there is every reason to fear the Ideology [not all Muslims], i.e. it is rational to fear Islam the ideology. So, fearing and condemning the ideology of Islam is not Islamophobia.
Perhaps if one [out of ignorance and does not differentiate between an ideology and its followers] condemn all Muslims and not the ideology of Islam, then Muslimophobia could be warranted.

As for Christianity, it is impossible to fear Christianity the ideology and as a religion where it commands its followers to 'love all, even enemies' 'give the other cheek' etc. If any Christian were to commit violence, it has nothing to do with the religion itself, i.e. the ideology; that can only be the responsibility of the 'Christian' on his personal basis.
As such, Christianity based on the Constitution of its ideology cannot be a violent religion per se.

You ought to brush up your knowledge on the above.

[Dr Faustus]

If Christianity is treated as a coherent ideological system (which is questionnable as for everything called religions), it becomes evident that many of history’s most violent episodes, such as the genocide of Indigenous peoples in the Americas, colonial expansion, and the transatlantic slave trade—were legitimized through Christian thought. These atrocities were often justified by doctrines like the Doctrine of Discovery and Natural Law, and echoed even in the writings of secularized thinkers who can be included in christian thinkers as they believed sucularization is a realization of christian worldview, such as Hegelians of St. Louis and earlier figures like John Locke. It is clear that christianism gave all the legitimacy of the worse imperial violences of the West.

Even the academic construction of “primitive religions” in anthropology and the racialized classification of Semitic faiths in Orientalism were shaped by Christian ideological frameworks. In the 19th century, scholars redefined Christianity as an “Aryan” religion—aligned with Greek philosophy and European rationality—while Judaism and Islam were cast as “Semitic,” emotional, and legalistic. This reclassification, seen in the works of Ernest Renan and echoed by Protestant thinkers, served to elevate Christianity as the universal and civilizational norm. Thus, even in its secularized forms, Christian thought structured the categories of legimacy for racial violences such as anti-semitic violences (rhe idea of semitic race is a west construction) and racist violences

[popeye1945]

Civil marriage and therefore Christian marriage is a misleading, deceptive, and violent scam

No man considers all his personal earnings to be marital earnings. Even Christian men typically do not.

A man is typically willing to contribute financially to the household but only with some part of his personal earnings. The remainder is and remains his own personal property.

There is no mainstream religion besides Christianity that insists that all personal earnings would be marital earnings.

Islam does not. Hinduism does not. Buddhism does not.

Only Christianity does.

The Christians have corrupted secular law to reflect their misguided Christian doctrine, which subsequently gets enforced against non-Christians.

This practice is a detestable form of Christian violence against non-Christians.

Christianity is violent.

That is why violence against Christians is so prevalent. The French and the Russian revolutions sought to eradicate Christianity. The next revolution will inevitably do that again.

All Western religions, read all desert religions, are violent religions; they have for their divinity a war god. Over time, Christianity and Judaism have learned to ignore the more barbaric readings in their scriptures, except for Islam, which maintains its military mentality of conquer and subdue. I sincerely believe that if we are to survive as a species, we must overcome faith; it is divisive and warlike, despite its claims of brotherly love, it is soaked in blood, and will always be soaked in the blood of innocence, until we evolve to leave its wretchedness behind as a product of the more primitive part of our brain.