What is obscene ?

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Martin Peter Clarke
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Walker wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:35 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:27 pm I'm Martine the bearded lady at weekends. Too darn hot for the tight leather bindings!
Leather is cultural.

Scent is primordial, it triggers surprising memories.
Indeed, but leather smells. Of skin. And picks up body scents.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:30 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:35 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:27 pm I'm Martine the bearded lady at weekends. Too darn hot for the tight leather bindings!
Leather is cultural.

Scent is primordial, it triggers surprising memories.
Indeed, but leather smells. Of skin. And picks up body scents.
Sure. It’s a cultural affectation popular because of the primitive nature of wearing another creature’s skin and feeling it take on your shape, take on your … fragrance, which was taken to an obscene extreme in Silence of the Lambs.
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Walker wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:32 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:30 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:35 pm
Leather is cultural.

Scent is primordial, it triggers surprising memories.
Indeed, but leather smells. Of skin. And picks up body scents.
Sure. It’s a cultural affectation popular because of the primitive nature of wearing another creature’s skin and feeling it take on your shape, take on your … fragrance, which was taken to an obscene extreme in Silence of the Lambs.
Pretty primal.
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The middle way eschews extreme obscene.
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Walker wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:39 pm The middle way eschews extreme obscene.
Exactly, moderation in all things. Including fetishism.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:54 am
Walker wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:39 pm The middle way eschews extreme obscene.
Exactly, moderation in all things. Including fetishism.
Is there a fetish that is not obscene?
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Walker wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:03 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:54 am
Walker wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:39 pm The middle way eschews extreme obscene.
Exactly, moderation in all things. Including fetishism.
Is there a fetish that is not obscene?
I s'pose not, as Woody Allen said when asked is sex dirty, it is if you're doing it right.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:16 am
Elective, life altering surgical and chemical mutilation of children, because of arbitrary adult notions about sex, is rather obscene. Calling it, “Gender Affirming Care,” is a dirty, obscene assault upon intelligence.
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Walker wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 4:05 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:16 am
Elective, life altering surgical and chemical mutilation of children, because of arbitrary adult notions about sex, is rather obscene. Calling it, “Gender Affirming Care,” is a dirty, obscene assault upon intelligence.
I've never encountered that in the UK. Where have you?
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The best summation of the obscene is disgust, which is often simply a subjective response to the circumstances.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:29 pm
Walker wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 4:05 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:16 am
Elective, life altering surgical and chemical mutilation of children, because of arbitrary adult notions about sex, is rather obscene. Calling it, “Gender Affirming Care,” is a dirty, obscene assault upon intelligence.
I've never encountered that in the UK. Where have you?
As the future becomes the present, message boards are less about answering questions, and more about discovering a question worthy of the air conditioning required to generate an AI answer.

Worthy Question: What are the caring surgical and chemical procedures that the medical profession uses to affirm gender?

AI answer: …

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Worthy Question: Where have children been surgically and chemically treated to affirm gender?

AI answer: …
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popeye1945 wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:01 pm The best summation of the obscene is disgust, which is often simply a subjective response to the circumstances.
Interesting point. Obscenity is detected through physical reaction.

Worthy Philosophical Question: Is obscenity experienced anywhere but in thought?

Walker answer: To that I say, yes. Everyone knows the experience of suffering, but the obscenity of suffering can degrade the physical quality of life to the point of clinical depression.
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Walker wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 2:08 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:29 pm
Walker wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 4:05 pm
Elective, life altering surgical and chemical mutilation of children, because of arbitrary adult notions about sex, is rather obscene. Calling it, “Gender Affirming Care,” is a dirty, obscene assault upon intelligence.
I've never encountered that in the UK. Where have you?
As the future becomes the present, message boards are less about answering questions, and more about discovering a question worthy of the air conditioning required to generate an AI answer.

Worthy Question: What are the caring surgical and chemical procedures that the medical profession uses to affirm gender?

AI answer: …

*

Worthy Question: Where have children been surgically and chemically treated to affirm gender?

AI answer: …
In other words, you've got nothing. A straw man, a lie, to rail against.
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How childish.


AI has plenty to say about it.

Don't you believe the AI that apes my answer?

Go on, ask AI those worthy questions, as is.
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Walker wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:05 pm How childish.


AI has plenty to say about it.

Don't you believe the AI that apes my answer?

Go on, ask AI those worthy questions, as is.
Excuse me?

Give me a single, credible news report (BBC standard), or wiki account.

Put up or shut up.
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