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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:29 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:07 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:23 pm
No thanks mate. The toxicity shines. The lying for the truth. That's far more interesting.
No thanks what? What toxicity? What "lying for truth"? What's more interesting?
The racist lies.
Those who bleat "racist" at any mention of the rape gangs are effectively complicit in their cover up, as this is the very reason why so few people have come forward, and why those who did were ostracised, and sometimes even themselves prosecuted, allowing hundreds of thousands of vulnerable, underage girls to fall victim to this unspeakable (literally unspeakable, it seems) evil over at least two decades, maybe much longer. Even worse, as is so often the case, what we're hearing about now is almost certainly just the tip of the iceberg. Thankfully, the damn of silence is now about to break, and my strong suspicion is that it will sweep a large number of people away with it.
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Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:17 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:29 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:07 pm

No thanks what? What toxicity? What "lying for truth"? What's more interesting?
The racist lies.
Racist lies are more interesting? Than what?
Irrelevant links.
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Maia wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:59 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:29 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:07 pm

No thanks what? What toxicity? What "lying for truth"? What's more interesting?
The racist lies.
Those who bleat "racist" at any mention of the rape gangs are effectively complicit in their cover up, as this is the very reason why so few people have come forward, and why those who did were ostracised, and sometimes even themselves prosecuted, allowing hundreds of thousands of vulnerable, underage girls to fall victim to this unspeakable (literally unspeakable, it seems) evil over at least two decades, maybe much longer. Even worse, as is so often the case, what we're hearing about now is almost certainly just the tip of the iceberg. Thankfully, the damn of silence is now about to break, and my strong suspicion is that it will sweep a large number of people away with it.
What have historic rape gangs got to do with your racist claims? What dam of silence? We've known about this for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooming_gangs_scandal, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham ... on_scandal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_ ... abuse_ring superbly dramatized by the BBC. 8 years ago. What's Sir Sadiq got to do with it? And who got an MBE for it?
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:29 pm
Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:07 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:23 pm
No thanks mate. The toxicity shines. The lying for the truth. That's far more interesting.
No thanks what? What toxicity? What "lying for truth"? What's more interesting?
The racist lies.
Since rape gangs in the UK aren't likely to personally affect you then I would suggest that you shut the fuck up about it and stop trying to silence a woman with your manipulative woke wankery, a woman from England who could well be personally affected by them. People have had a gutsful of these tedious stock insults that get tossed around every time someone says something you don't like and you have no argument.
Some of these men have been convicted and are serving prison sentences. You accuse her of 'racist lies' then go on to post links to wokepedia that support what she says. What a fool. Where's the 'racism'? That they are Pakistani gangs? That's just a known fact. It's in your own links. What is wrong with you?
If those gangs have been 'known for decades' as you say, then it's even more of a scandal that it's ongoing and that there has been such resistance from those in power to do anything about it or investigate why it has been allowed to go on for so long.Some of these girls have gone missing--permanently.
Women are 'allowed' to hate rapists and their enablers you woman-hating woke wanker. It's none of your business.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:17 pm
Maia wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:59 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:29 pm
The racist lies.
Those who bleat "racist" at any mention of the rape gangs are effectively complicit in their cover up, as this is the very reason why so few people have come forward, and why those who did were ostracised, and sometimes even themselves prosecuted, allowing hundreds of thousands of vulnerable, underage girls to fall victim to this unspeakable (literally unspeakable, it seems) evil over at least two decades, maybe much longer. Even worse, as is so often the case, what we're hearing about now is almost certainly just the tip of the iceberg. Thankfully, the damn of silence is now about to break, and my strong suspicion is that it will sweep a large number of people away with it.
What have historic rape gangs got to do with your racist claims? What dam of silence? We've known about this for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooming_gangs_scandal, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham ... on_scandal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_ ... abuse_ring superbly dramatized by the BBC. 8 years ago. What's Sir Sadiq got to do with it? And who got an MBE for it?
Here's the one who got the MBE
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/20812 ... ott-police

As for "Sir Sadiq" he is well known for blocking any rape gang enquiry in London which is why there are no officially recorded instances of it there, which does, of course, beggar belief.
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Maia wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:22 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:17 pm
Maia wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:59 pm

Those who bleat "racist" at any mention of the rape gangs are effectively complicit in their cover up, as this is the very reason why so few people have come forward, and why those who did were ostracised, and sometimes even themselves prosecuted, allowing hundreds of thousands of vulnerable, underage girls to fall victim to this unspeakable (literally unspeakable, it seems) evil over at least two decades, maybe much longer. Even worse, as is so often the case, what we're hearing about now is almost certainly just the tip of the iceberg. Thankfully, the damn of silence is now about to break, and my strong suspicion is that it will sweep a large number of people away with it.
What have historic rape gangs got to do with your racist claims? What dam of silence? We've known about this for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooming_gangs_scandal, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham ... on_scandal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_ ... abuse_ring superbly dramatized by the BBC. 8 years ago. What's Sir Sadiq got to do with it? And who got an MBE for it?
Here's the one who got the MBE
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/20812 ... ott-police

As for "Sir Sadiq" he is well known for blocking any rape gang enquiry in London which is why there are no officially recorded instances of it there, which does, of course, beggar belief.
Well known how? I never read the gutter press. Why the double quotes?
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Oh, his lordship only accepts facts when they are reported in 'The Times' you know :lol:
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:26 pm
Maia wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:22 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:17 pm
What have historic rape gangs got to do with your racist claims? What dam of silence? We've known about this for years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooming_gangs_scandal, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham ... on_scandal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_ ... abuse_ring superbly dramatized by the BBC. 8 years ago. What's Sir Sadiq got to do with it? And who got an MBE for it?
Here's the one who got the MBE
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/20812 ... ott-police

As for "Sir Sadiq" he is well known for blocking any rape gang enquiry in London which is why there are no officially recorded instances of it there, which does, of course, beggar belief.
Well known how? I never read the gutter press. Why the double quotes?
You can listen to him here. As for putting "Sir Sadiq" in quotes, then if he's a knight, the whole system stinks and should be scrapped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noJCNh60lfk
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accelafine wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:29 pm Oh, his lordship only accepts facts when they are reported in 'The Times' you know :lol:
There was indeed a Times article, but it was behind a paywall.
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Maia wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:41 pm
accelafine wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:29 pm Oh, his lordship only accepts facts when they are reported in 'The Times' you know :lol:
There was indeed a Times article, but it was behind a paywall.
I'm guessing the nasty old misogynistic p**** won't bother to look for it.
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Maia wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:41 am There seems to be a growing opinion in favour of scrapping the monarchy. For example, Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain movement has something called the Cromwell Club, and Britain First has proposed having an elected Lord Protector, again, emulating Cromwell. The reasons are fairly simple, namely, Charles's perceived treachery. Giving a knighthood to Sadiq Khan, for example, who has suppressed any enquiry into the rape gangs in London, and giving an MBE to another Muslim politician who, again, is noted for suppressing a rape gang enquiry in Yorkshire.

I find this interesting for historical reasons, given the less than stellar track record of the previous two kings named Charles. Charles I, of course, was put on trial by Cromwell and beheaded, and Charles II was a traitor, secretly receiving massive bribes from the French for most of his reign. Personally, I think it's very unlikely that Charles III will be made to vacate the throne, but you never know. After all, it wasn't so long ago that a king was forced to do exactly that, for being a Nazi sympathiser, namely Edward VIII in 1936.
What is the purpose of retaining the monarchy? Does anyone believe in the Divine Right of Kings anymore?
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:08 pm
Maia wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:41 am There seems to be a growing opinion in favour of scrapping the monarchy. For example, Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain movement has something called the Cromwell Club, and Britain First has proposed having an elected Lord Protector, again, emulating Cromwell. The reasons are fairly simple, namely, Charles's perceived treachery. Giving a knighthood to Sadiq Khan, for example, who has suppressed any enquiry into the rape gangs in London, and giving an MBE to another Muslim politician who, again, is noted for suppressing a rape gang enquiry in Yorkshire.

I find this interesting for historical reasons, given the less than stellar track record of the previous two kings named Charles. Charles I, of course, was put on trial by Cromwell and beheaded, and Charles II was a traitor, secretly receiving massive bribes from the French for most of his reign. Personally, I think it's very unlikely that Charles III will be made to vacate the throne, but you never know. After all, it wasn't so long ago that a king was forced to do exactly that, for being a Nazi sympathiser, namely Edward VIII in 1936.
What is the purpose of retaining the monarchy? Does anyone believe in the Divine Right of Kings anymore?
Constitutional monarchies, the UK, the Netherlands, Spain, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, Norway; look them up on the Economist Democracy Index.
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An elected president would represent the people better than a wealthy landed aristocrat. Any presidential candidate should be post graduate from a good university, should have an established record of philanthropy, and should have extensive training in diplomacy.
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Charles meets all those requirements for a head of state, Belinda. So it looks as if you consider his wealth and ownership of land as disqualifications, which doesn’t really make sense.
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With part of my head I'm an atheist republican.

God save the King!

As I bellowed at his second proclamation.
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