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Martin Peter Clarke
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:13 am If the senses cannot be sensed through the senses than is experience of external reality merely a process of the mind?
Hmmm. I cannot touch touch? Hear hearing? Smell smelling? See seeing? Looking in the mirror, or in to camera, or just on camera is pretty good correlation. But yeah, experience of external - i.e. unexperienced, actual - reality is merely a process of the external reality called mind. There is only external reality after all.
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there is only external reality... then we wake up...

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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:48 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:13 am If the senses cannot be sensed through the senses than is experience of external reality merely a process of the mind?
Hmmm. I cannot touch touch? Hear hearing? Smell smelling? See seeing? Looking in the mirror, or in to camera, or just on camera is pretty good correlation. But yeah, experience of external - i.e. unexperienced, actual - reality is merely a process of the external reality called mind. There is only external reality after all.
To look only in a mirror or photo is to only see a mirror or photo.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 11:21 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:48 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:13 am If the senses cannot be sensed through the senses than is experience of external reality merely a process of the mind?
Hmmm. I cannot touch touch? Hear hearing? Smell smelling? See seeing? Looking in the mirror, or in to camera, or just on camera is pretty good correlation. But yeah, experience of external - i.e. unexperienced, actual - reality is merely a process of the external reality called mind. There is only external reality after all.
To look only in a mirror or photo is to only see a mirror or photo.
As I said, with correlation. Approximation. Semiosis. To look in to the reflection of my eyes, one at a time of course, is to see the reflection of my seeing all the way down my optic nerve, surely?
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:38 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 11:21 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:48 pm
Hmmm. I cannot touch touch? Hear hearing? Smell smelling? See seeing? Looking in the mirror, or in to camera, or just on camera is pretty good correlation. But yeah, experience of external - i.e. unexperienced, actual - reality is merely a process of the external reality called mind. There is only external reality after all.
To look only in a mirror or photo is to only see a mirror or photo.
As I said, with correlation. Approximation. Semiosis. To look in to the reflection of my eyes, one at a time of course, is to see the reflection of my seeing all the way down my optic nerve, surely?
You don't get it...to see a reflection is to see a reflection, a non zero difference is an infinite difference.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 5:21 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:38 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 11:21 pm

To look only in a mirror or photo is to only see a mirror or photo.
As I said, with correlation. Approximation. Semiosis. To look in to the reflection of my eyes, one at a time of course, is to see the reflection of my seeing all the way down my optic nerve, surely?
You don't get it...to see a reflection is to see a reflection, a non zero difference is an infinite difference.
Whatever you say.
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popeye1945 wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:56 am It is a relational world, the relational union of subject and object. The fact is that being is a cause to other beings. We are all reactive creatures in that we react to the physical world, and our reactions are then cause to the outside world. There is no such thing as human action; there is only human reaction, for all behaviours are motivated and motivated spell's reaction, not action. Actions are for the gods. Apparent reality is a mental construct in that it is a biological readout of the alterations made to the organism's body by the forces and forms of the outside world. All beings are imperfections that find relations with other imperfections to produce emergent imperfections that relate to a higher realm in which to adapt. The organism adapts to its changing world, and the world adapts to its changing cosmos. Imperfections are the major reason evolutionary adaptation succeeds in matching adaptive imperfections with higher realm imperfections, so that all things are coming to be in an ever-changing process. A distinction must be made between apparent reality and what science calls ultimate reality. Apparent reality is a reality of things, while ultimate reality is a place of no things. The ultimate reality is energy. It is as if the forces and forms of ultimate reality play upon biological organisms as an instrument, and the melody it plays is apparent reality, a melody only the organism can hear, see, and feel, a subjective world of experience.
Yoga means to yoke (no joke), awareness with object, spirit with form.

Non-action is for God, which creates a lot of human confusion, what with blaming God for floods and such. Roydop will be pleased to know that this is where Why crosses home, for non-conceptual non-sensory meditation that stills thoughts as gently and gradually as silt settles in the still water, leaving only empty clarity as the medium that awaits a ripple, is the human imaging of God by those made in the image of.
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Walker wrote: Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:26 am
popeye1945 wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:56 am It is a relational world, the relational union of subject and object. The fact is that being is a cause to other beings. We are all reactive creatures in that we react to the physical world, and our reactions are then cause to the outside world. There is no such thing as human action; there is only human reaction, for all behaviours are motivated and motivated spell's reaction, not action. Actions are for the gods. Apparent reality is a mental construct in that it is a biological readout of the alterations made to the organism's body by the forces and forms of the outside world. All beings are imperfections that find relations with other imperfections to produce emergent imperfections that relate to a higher realm in which to adapt. The organism adapts to its changing world, and the world adapts to its changing cosmos. Imperfections are the major reason evolutionary adaptation succeeds in matching adaptive imperfections with higher realm imperfections, so that all things are coming to be in an ever-changing process. A distinction must be made between apparent reality and what science calls ultimate reality. Apparent reality is a reality of things, while ultimate reality is a place of no things. The ultimate reality is energy. It is as if the forces and forms of ultimate reality play upon biological organisms as an instrument, and the melody it plays is apparent reality, a melody only the organism can hear, see, and feel, a subjective world of experience.
Yoga means to yoke (no joke), awareness with object, spirit with form.

Non-action is for God, which creates a lot of human confusion, what with blaming God for floods and such. Roydop will be pleased to know that this is where Why crosses home, for non-conceptual non-sensory meditation that stills thoughts as gently and gradually as silt settles in the still water, leaving only empty clarity as the medium that awaits a ripple, is the human imaging of God by those made in the image of.
I have a blue one myself!!
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