More self-evidently than anything else, there is flux.
That is to say, any attempt to refute this statement yields its immediate confirmation.
An absolute beginning of this flux would also be the ending of a prior beginningless stasis.
Logically, such a situation is absolutely impossible, as beginningless stasis is simply incapable of coming to an end.
As such, flux had no absolute beginning, and therefore, will have no absolute ending.
Given the fact that it APPEARS to have had an absolute beginning, it MUST be, in some way, eternally recurrent.
Flux is very simply the perpetual effervescence of fluctuations.
Fundamentally, an increasing degree of structural layering inevitably emerges in this flux out of the ontologically efficient reactivity that naturally occurs among all fluctuations, due solely to their co-existence with each other.
Sufficient structural layering naturally sparks the phenomenon known as feedback. The feedback associated with a sufficiently high degree of structural layering is "ontologically tight feedback", which is demonstrably what the biotic (and, as such, homeostatic) process essentially is.
Once such biotic fluctuations (also known as "living organisms") emerge, inevitable imperfections in their reproduction will either be advantageous or disadvantageous to systemic persistence, with advantageous imperfections naturally increasing in prominence with subsequent iterations, and sufficiently disadvantageous imperfections naturally preventing themselves from persisting.
This is the primary driver of natural selection and evolution, eventually resulting (along with a vast array of biotic diversity) in the emergence of the central nervous system, and with it, the ultra visceralisation of internal homeostatic adjustment, commonly known as "consciousness".
From Flux to Feelings
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Martin Peter Clarke
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Re: From Flux to Feelings
There is no beginning, no end, of beginnings. WLC can't do the most obvious fact in eternity.
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Relinquish
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Re: From Flux to Feelings
WLC?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:23 am There is no beginning, no end, of beginnings. WLC can't do the most obvious fact in eternity.
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Martin Peter Clarke
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Sorry, William Lane Craig. The second greatest surviving Christian 'philosopher', with his Kalam Cosmological Argument.Relinquish wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:41 amWLC?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:23 am There is no beginning, no end, of beginnings. WLC can't do the most obvious fact in eternity.
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Within the "kalem cosmological argument" you refer to, here, contain any claim that the Universe began to exist, or similar?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:59 amSorry, William Lane Craig. The second greatest surviving Christian 'philosopher', with his Kalam Cosmological Argument.Relinquish wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:41 amWLC?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:23 am There is no beginning, no end, of beginnings. WLC can't do the most obvious fact in eternity.
If yes, then 'this argument' is already unsound and/or invalid.
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Impenitent
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Re: From Flux to Feelings
feeling the flux is fine unless you are actively welding with it
purify the seam
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purify the seam
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