ChatGPT Psychosis

[Ben JS]

People have killed themselves and others based on what they've read in books.
So, let's get back to burning books.
The lowest common denominator paths the way to excellence.



What is fear mongering?

[attofishpi]

I will ignore the alt-right whine, do that in some other thread, but you can have your answer to why Belinda is on that list:

The fact that the right are right and you're an extreme left idiot as U all are IS the reason you put me on the list; OR, do you have some thread topic reason for chucking me in there?

..but you can have your answer to why Belinda is on that list. It's because she's halfway to ChatGPT Psychosis already. In fact I told her a few weeks ago that AI tools can reproduce the cognitive side of a challenge in this exchange:

I submit that free will is the ability to err. No other animal is free to err to anything approaching the degree to which humans err. If we humans could not err then we would be non-human intelligences.

Why compare human will to artificial intelligence? Wouldn't the apples vs apples comparison be against human intelligence? I thought humans had cognitive conative and affective dimension, while that what makes artificial intelligence so eerie is the reliance entirely on the cognitive aspect with the absence of both others.

Her reply then was this slice of utter simp shit:

Why not put that AI programme thing, ChatGPT,to the test and ask it a question like what it feels like to be in love?

But yesterday she wrote...

Is AI capable of doing something just because it can be done?
No — not in the way humans might be.
AI doesn’t have desires, will, or an independent drive to act.

The above is the response of ChatGPT

She got GPT to give her back information I gave her ages ago, but this time she believed it because it came from the GPT. She shouldn't have needed me either, general knowledge ought to suffice.

Woopee doo! I think you are misrepresenting Belinda here (*Misrepresentation, a VERY typical trait of the stupid people of the extreme left).

She's too weak, she's a born victim for this sort of thing. She's the sort of person who doesn't get that social media is there to get attention and advert clicks, so because promotion of rage gets those things reliably, rage-bait is half of social media.

Bullshit. Talk about misrepresentation FFS.

Belinda seems rather of a flip-flop cognitively at times on certain matters and I can't pin her down, particularly where it comes to her belief re GOD. However, not sure if you are aware but she has returned to the forum since having a stroke and there are times that I wonder whether she has dropped in her cognitive abilities, based on some responses of late (*I don't intend to offend here Belinda, just my observation that may be inaccurate).

[accelafine]

I think 'Belinda' is a man.

[accelafine]

People have killed themselves and others based on what they've read in books.
So, let's get back to burning books.
The lowest common denominator paths the way to excellence.



What is fear mongering?

Like who? Idiotic comparison.

[Dubious]

It did come up with a neat short poem on Destiny which I asked it to write just to see what would turn up. What it came up with is beyond the ability of most people to write and perfectly quotable even if it has no idea what it wrote...

Chatgpt: Write me a short poem on destiny in rhyme

Destiny, a path unknown,
Winds that twist and winds that blow.
Through the dark, through light we roam,
Chasing stars, we find our home.

Threads are woven, fate's design,
In each moment, we're aligned.
Though we stumble, fall, and stray,
Destiny will guide our way.

It almost sounds like a hope and prayer!

[attofishpi]

It did come up with a neat short poem on Destiny which I asked it to write just to see what would turn up. What it came up with is beyond the ability of most people to write and perfectly quotable even if it has no idea what it wrote...

Chatgpt: Write me a short poem on destiny in rhyme

Destiny, a path unknown,
Winds that twist and winds that blow.
Through the dark, through light we roam,
Chasing stars, we find our home.

Threads are woven, fate's design,
In each moment, we're aligned.
Though we stumble, fall, and stray,
Destiny will guide our way.

It almost sounds like a hope and prayer!

I think the only bit that sounds like a 'hope and prayer' is 'we find our home'..

The rest is stumbling through a deterministic outcome!

[attofishpi]

I think 'Belinda' is a man.

Now which of the 100s of personalities you operate through did that idiocy come from?

[Gary Childress]

It did come up with a neat short poem on Destiny which I asked it to write just to see what would turn up. What it came up with is beyond the ability of most people to write and perfectly quotable even if it has no idea what it wrote...

Chatgpt: Write me a short poem on destiny in rhyme

Destiny, a path unknown,
Winds that twist and winds that blow.
Through the dark, through light we roam,
Chasing stars, we find our home.

Threads are woven, fate's design,
In each moment, we're aligned.
Though we stumble, fall, and stray,
Destiny will guide our way.

It almost sounds like a hope and prayer!

Yeah. That's a pretty good poem, a lot better than what many of us may write.

[accelafine]

I think 'Belinda' is a man.

Now which of the 100s of personalities you operate through did that idiocy come from?

I think he said it a while ago, and someone else said he had another account with a man's name. He comes across as a silly old coot anyway.

[attofishpi]

I think 'Belinda' is a man.

Now which of the 100s of personalities you operate through did that idiocy come from?

I think he said it a while ago, and someone else said he had another account with a man's name. He comes across as a silly old coot anyway.

-- --

Belinda, did you ever have a penis between your legs? --ah, that could apply either way.

Belinda, are you a man?

[Dubious]

It did come up with a neat short poem on Destiny which I asked it to write just to see what would turn up. What it came up with is beyond the ability of most people to write and perfectly quotable even if it has no idea what it wrote...

Chatgpt: Write me a short poem on destiny in rhyme

Destiny, a path unknown,
Winds that twist and winds that blow.
Through the dark, through light we roam,
Chasing stars, we find our home.

Threads are woven, fate's design,
In each moment, we're aligned.
Though we stumble, fall, and stray,
Destiny will guide our way.

It almost sounds like a hope and prayer!

I think the only bit that sounds like a 'hope and prayer' is 'we find our home'..

The rest is stumbling through a deterministic outcome!

No idea how this applies to a deterministic outcome but whatever! Though well-expressed, it's more of a sentiment poem than a philosophical one. But again, it's one most people would not have the ability to write and that is the point not whether or not you like it or find it defective.

[attofishpi]

It did come up with a neat short poem on Destiny which I asked it to write just to see what would turn up. What it came up with is beyond the ability of most people to write and perfectly quotable even if it has no idea what it wrote...



It almost sounds like a hope and prayer!

I think the only bit that sounds like a 'hope and prayer' is 'we find our home'..

The rest is stumbling through a deterministic outcome!

No idea how this applies to a deterministic outcome but whatever! Though well-expressed, it's more of a sentiment poem than a philosophical one. But again, it's one most people would not have the ability to write and that is the point not whether or not you like it or find it defective.

No idea? The poem is about destiny, which could be a rather bleak outcome that one did not want. I didn't see much of a prayer into it, as I said apart from the getting home bit, home tends to be a nice place to get to. But ya, for me it only reflected cause and effect that leads to a destiny (determinism).

Just read it again, what does "chasing stars" mean - in front of the 'find our home' bit? nonsense!!

[Ben JS]

People have killed themselves and others based on what they've read in books.
So, let's get back to burning books.
The lowest common denominator paths the way to excellence.



What is fear mongering?

Like who?

Ever heard about bibles?
Or schizophrenics who see messages where there are none?

A schizophrenic may use any source to feed their delusions / hallucinations,
from any sort of media / literature, to the swaying of trees or sounds of birds.

AI chatbots are strong source of influence,
and also may inadvertently be more supportive of a delusion than a healthy person would be.

1. The Catcher in the Rye – Mark David Chapman and John Lennon

Mark David Chapman, who murdered musician John Lennon in 1980, was reportedly obsessed with J.D. Salinger's novel The Catcher in the Rye. He identified with the book's themes of alienation and rebellion and considered the murder to be the 27th chapter in the 26-chapter book. Chapman even quoted a line from the novel at his trial and wrote "this is my statement" on the inside cover of the copy recovered from his jacket pocket during his arrest.

2. Rage by Richard Bachman (Stephen King) – Jeffrey Lyne Cox

In 1988, high school student Jeffrey Lyne Cox took his classmates hostage after reading Rage, a novel by Richard Bachman (a pseudonym for Stephen King). The book's protagonist commits a similar act, and Cox reportedly identified with the character's feelings of alienation and frustration. This incident led to the book being withdrawn from publication.

Now whether these scenarios are completely accurate is besides the point -
the point is that because a delusional person was influenced by inane phenomena,
is not an indictment on the phenomena - but life's susceptibility to delusion.

Idiotic comparison.

While you may be a source of idiocy, you are not it's arbiter.
It's a reasonable comparison, historically relevant & an illustration of how fear mongering attempted to halt progress.

Chatbots are like interactive books, where they not only source their words from literature, but also online user interactions.
It's not a stretch to compare their influence on people, similar to the influence books may have on people.
Both are close to one way communication, where there's an imbalance of influence:
both book and AI chatbot may influence the reader/user far more than user may influence the book/chatbot in return.

Books have utility, chatbots have utility.
But they aren't without risks.
Having risks does not mean we should abandon their utilization.

EDIT:

Nor does it mean those who utilize them are delusional.
Just as not all who utilize books are delusional, but some are.

[accelafine]

People have killed themselves and others based on what they've read in books.
So, let's get back to burning books.
The lowest common denominator paths the way to excellence.



What is fear mongering?

Like who?

Ever heard about bibles?
Or schizophrenics who see messages where there are none?

A schizophrenic may use any source to feed their delusions / hallucinations,
from any sort of media / literature, to the swaying of trees or sounds of birds.

AI chatbots are strong source of influence,
and also may inadvertently be more supportive of a delusion than a healthy person would be.

1. The Catcher in the Rye – Mark David Chapman and John Lennon

Mark David Chapman, who murdered musician John Lennon in 1980, was reportedly obsessed with J.D. Salinger's novel The Catcher in the Rye. He identified with the book's themes of alienation and rebellion and considered the murder to be the 27th chapter in the 26-chapter book. Chapman even quoted a line from the novel at his trial and wrote "this is my statement" on the inside cover of the copy recovered from his jacket pocket during his arrest.

2. Rage by Richard Bachman (Stephen King) – Jeffrey Lyne Cox

In 1988, high school student Jeffrey Lyne Cox took his classmates hostage after reading Rage, a novel by Richard Bachman (a pseudonym for Stephen King). The book's protagonist commits a similar act, and Cox reportedly identified with the character's feelings of alienation and frustration. This incident led to the book being withdrawn from publication.

Now whether these scenarios are completely accurate is besides the point -
the point is that because a delusional person was influenced by inane phenomena,
is not an indictment on the phenomena - but life's susceptibility to delusion.

Idiotic comparison.

While you may be a source of idiocy, you are not it's arbiter.
It's a reasonable comparison, historically relevant & an illustration of how fear mongering attempted to halt progress.

Chatbots are like interactive books, where they not only source their words from literature, but also online user interactions.
It's not a stretch to compare their influence on people, similar to the influence books may have on people.
Both are close to one way communication, where there's an imbalance of influence:
both book and AI chatbot may influence the reader/user far more than user may influence the book/chatbot in return.

Books have utility, chatbots have utility.
But they aren't without risks.
Having risks does not mean we should abandon their utilization.

EDIT:

Nor does it mean those who utilize them are delusional.
Just as not all who utilize books are delusional, but some are.

It's not remotely similar. I can't be bothered explaining why. You aren't going to get it anyway.

[attofishpi]

It's not remotely similar. I can't be bothered explaining why. You aren't going to get it anyway.

U just always want to argue with people woman!

Ben JS is right actually and he's making a similar point to yours re idiots that give all there money to Nigerians catfishing as fighter pilots.

Fact is idiots, psychotic or not are going to be influenced, often in a negative way by whatever is input to their consciousness, a mind that has limited capacity for reasoning truth from bollocks.