Quantitative versus qualitative change

[cpuproc68]

Logistic development (s-curve, logistic curve, sigmoid curve, see http://sresearch.scienceontheweb.net/philosophy.php) can explain a difference between a qualitative change and quantitative change. It shows that each kind of so called qualitative change, like for example liquefaction of gas, is just some form of quantitative change. Marxists are using conception of change where quantitative changes transform to qualitative change. But this idea is containing fundamental mistake that there is a difference between qualitative and quantitative change.
What I would like to emphasize is each so called qualitative change, for example the transition of water into ice, or steam into water, is actually a cumulative quantitative change; that is, a quantitative change taking place quickly over a short period of time. So there are no qualitative changes, only quantitative ones (the above part of this paragraph is from year 2008).
The second law of Marx's dialectics is the law of the transformation of quantity into quality. If, for example, we gradually heat water by one degree, at some point it will turn into steam, and this is a qualitative, not quantitative, change. As my analysis shows, this law is incorrect. In fact, this transformation of water into steam is also a quantitative change, only a very rapid one, occurring suddenly through a quantitative leap. Let's look again at diagram 1 (the above part of this paragraph is from year 2025).

Gregory Podgorniak, Poland

about the author, My name is Gregory Podgorniak (brn. 01.1977, Szczecinek, West Pomerania, Poland). I am working on field of natural as well as social sciences. During philosophical studies at Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznan (1996-1999) I was actively act in student scientific organisation, got a scientific scholarship, and one from my articles titled Circulus vitiosus and fourfold petitio principii in the system of Descartes was published in Humanistic Drafts of Publishing House of Humaniora Foundation in Poznan, no. 6, 1998. Unfortunately certain fate events made impossible to me continuing studies to master's and later doctor's degree. Thence I was forced to be content only with a title of bachelor.
Thanks to deep and penetrating researchings I was able to establish indisputably some number of my past incarnations reaching of ancient period, these data are certain, these incarnations are: Auguste Comte (1798-1857) French philosopher and sociologist, Edme Mariotte (1620-1684) French physicist and meteorologist, Aenesidemus (1 st century BC) Greek sceptical philosopher, Arcesilaus (315-241 BC) Greek sceptical philosopher, Gorgias (485-380 BC) Greek sophist.

email contact: podgorniakgre@gmail.com

my other works are available here: http://sresearch.scienceontheweb.net/map_of_texts.php

[Eodnhoj7]

Logistic development (see http://sresearch.scienceontheweb.net/philosophy.php) can explain a difference between a qualitative change and quantitative change. It shows that each kind of so called qualitative change, like for example liquefaction of gas, is just some form of quantitative change. Marxists are using conception of change where quantitative changes transform to qualitative change. But this idea is containing fundamental mistake that there is a difference between qualitative and quantitative change.
What I would like to emphasize is each so called qualitative change, for example the transition of water into ice, or steam into water, is actually a cumulative quantitative change; that is, a quantitative change taking place quickly over a short period of time. So there are no qualitative changes, only quantitative ones.

(the above text is from year 2008)

Gregory Podgorniak, Poland

about the author, My name is Gregory Podgorniak (brn. 01.1977, Szczecinek, West Pomerania, Poland). I am working on field of natural as well as social sciences. During philosophical studies at Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznan (1996-1999) I was actively act in student scientific organisation, got a scientific scholarship, and one from my articles titled Circulus vitiosus and fourfold petitio principii in the system of Descartes was published in Humanistic Drafts of Publishing House of Humaniora Foundation in Poznan, no. 6, 1998. Unfortunately certain fate events made impossible to me continuing studies to master's and later doctor's degree. Thence I was forced to be content only with a title of bachelor.
Thanks to deep and penetrating researchings I was able to establish indisputably some number of my past incarnations reaching of ancient period, these data are certain, these incarnations are: Auguste Comte (1798-1857) French philosopher and sociologist, Edme Mariotte (1620-1684) French physicist and meteorologist, Bodhidharma (5th or 6th century) buddhist patriarch, Aenesidemus (1 st century BC) Greek sceptical philosopher, Arcesilaus (315-241 BC) Greek sceptical philosopher, Gorgias (485-380 BC) Greek sophist.

email contact: podgorniakgre@gmail.com

Concepts defining concepts as concepts results in the simultaneous multiplication of concepts as the division of concepts where reality becomes a paradox. Example: to divide a line segment is to multiply line segments and to multiply line segments is to divide them...and yet what exists regardless of the change is a line segment.

Qualitative and quantitative are concepts.

[Impenitent]

just switching the things that you count...

-Imp

[Walker]

Qualitative and quantitative are concepts.

- Defining Quality drove Pirsig coo-coo, and he was a genius.
- Quantitative is a number signifying a particular amount.

[Eodnhoj7]

Qualitative and quantitative are concepts.

- Defining Quality drove Pirsig coo-coo, and he was a genius.
- Quantitative is a number signifying a particular amount.

Quality and quantity are eachother by the nature of distinction which they share. We know distinction primarily through thought and memory for even the ever present now of the senses are compared through memory and thought.

[cpuproc68]

My concept improves on the Marxist concept.

[cpuproc68]

If you want to see visualization of presented problem, you should go on site indicated in link.

[cpuproc68]

So there are no qualitative changes, only quantitative ones.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Qualitative and quantitative are concepts.

- Defining Quality drove Pirsig coo-coo, and he was a genius.
- Quantitative is a number signifying a particular amount.

Quality and quantity are eachother by the nature of distinction which they share. We know distinction primarily through thought and memory for even the ever present now of the senses are compared through memory and thought.

As Stalin knew.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

One regards emergent levels as qualitative, they require more complexity, which is quantifiable, roughly. Logarithmically. Explosively.

PS As the late, great General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, said, quantity is quality.

[cpuproc68]

My concept of change is linked to the logistic model.

[cpuproc68]

The transition phase in a jump change, for example the transition from water to ice, is a very rapid process, so much so that it creates the impression of a qualitative transition.

[cpuproc68]

The model of the presented change is a sigmoid curve.

[cpuproc68]

My theory is a significant improvement on the concept of qualitative change.

[cpuproc68]

Looking at the chart available in the link in the first post can be very helpful in grasping the principle presented here.