Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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subject : verb; therefore, subject : exists

ontology from grammar

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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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Impenitent wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:23 pm subject : verb; therefore, subject : exists

ontology from grammar

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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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socrattus wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:23 pm
Impenitent wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:23 pm subject : verb; therefore, subject : exists

ontology from grammar

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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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Impenitent wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:17 pm
socrattus wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:23 pm
Impenitent wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:23 pm subject : verb; therefore, subject : exists

ontology from grammar

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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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If the (I Am) is the “blank canvas” of pure awareness. Then “thoughts” are my painting.

🖼️ "I dream my painting, and then I paint my dream" 🎨
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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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Impenitent wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:17 pm
socrattus wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:23 pm
Impenitent wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:23 pm subject : verb; therefore, subject : exists

ontology from grammar

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a discussion without phraseology is like mathematics without equations...

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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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"I think, therefore I am?" This could equally be, I feel, therefore I am.
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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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popeye1945 wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:47 am "I think, therefore I am?" This could equally be, I feel, therefore I am.
Awareness of being aware is an artificial secondary reality on behalf of a separate self within what is already consciousness one without a second.
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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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popeye1945 wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:47 am "I think, therefore I am?" This could equally be, I feel, therefore I am.
Why do you say “equally”? The former is a step in an argument in which the latter has no place.
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Re: Descartes: "I Think Therefore I Am"

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popeye1945 wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:47 am "I think, therefore I am?" This could equally be, I feel, therefore I am.
I think, therefore those who were, are.

Define were: what was, but is not.
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