The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
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Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
"The fundamental reason why God has never become a human and will never do so, is to prevent the emperor of Japan to claim that he is God incarnate."
God: Hey, you guys... should i go to earth as a man to straighten all this shit out?
Michael: nah boss don't do it. Naruhito is still down there, and if you go claiming to be a man, he's gonna go claiming to be you. I'm sure of it. Happens every time you go down there.
God: Hey, you guys... should i go to earth as a man to straighten all this shit out?
Michael: nah boss don't do it. Naruhito is still down there, and if you go claiming to be a man, he's gonna go claiming to be you. I'm sure of it. Happens every time you go down there.
Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
promethean75 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:02 pm "The fundamental reason why God has never become a human and will never do so, is to prevent the emperor of Japan to claim that he is God incarnate."
God: Hey, you guys... should i go to earth as a man to straighten all this shit out?
Michael: nah boss don't do it. Naruhito is still down there, and if you go claiming to be a man, he's gonna go claiming to be you. I'm sure of it. Happens every time you go down there.
It is forbidden onto a homo sapiens to worship a hominid, an ape, a monkey, a homo sapiens, or a baboon as a god. That is a reprehensible form of animalism. It is also forbidden to worship holy birds, holy cows, holy cats, or holy felines. You have to find some way to prevent them from doing that, because otherwise they simply will.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult
Some examples of historic leaders considered to have been divine kings are:
Africa
Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt.
The Shilluk Kingdom was ruled by a divine monarchy.
Ghanas ("Kings") of the Empire of Ghana.
Asia
God Worshipping Society leader Hong Xiuquan, leader of the Taiping Rebellion, claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus and attempted to establish rule as a divine king.
Korean Buddhist monk Gung-ye, King of Taebong.
The Japanese emperors up to the end of World War II.
Javanese kings during the Hindu-Buddhist era (4th–15th centuries AD), such as the Sailendra dynasty, Kediri, Singhasari and Majapahit.
Kings of the Khmer Empire in Cambodia.
Srivijaya kings.
Americas
Kings of the Maya city-states of the Classical period.[4]
Sapa Incas in pre-Hispanic South America; considered descendants of the sun god Inti.[5]
Oceania
Kings or Akua Aliʻi of the Hawaiian Islands before 1839.
Europe
Many Roman emperors were declared gods by the Roman Senate (generally after their death; see Roman imperial cult).
Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
Calling people of sub Saharan African descent the "N" word is "standard English usage" too. That doesn't preclude it from being bigoted and ethnocentric.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:45 pmIt's called "Standard English usage." But it also marks an important difference between two quite-different concepts: that of the fictional, superman-type god-being, such as Odin, Aphrodite or Hermes, which legend tells us had an origin and a termination, and were never said to be all-powerful in the first place, and that no sane person today believes actually exists, on the one hand, and the concept of the eternal Supreme Being on the other.Alexiev wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:39 pmThat seems like ethnicentric bigotry.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:14 pm
No, just using it in a standard way. There's a reason that the Greek and Norse "gods" get a small "g," and the Supreme Being gets a big "G": that is, that everybody who deals with these concepts realizes that they're not exactly the same concept...and hence, Standard English deals with it this way.
Or, As AI puts it:
"In general, "small g" god refers to deities or beings worshipped in various religions, while "Big G" God refers specifically to the supreme being in Abrahamic religions like Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. The "small g" is used when referring to multiple deities, or a general concept of a god, while the "Big G" is reserved for the singular, supreme being in these monotheistic faiths."
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Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
Alexiev wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:13 pmCalling people of sub Saharan African descent the "N" word is "standard English usage" too.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:45 pmIt's called "Standard English usage." But it also marks an important difference between two quite-different concepts: that of the fictional, superman-type god-being, such as Odin, Aphrodite or Hermes, which legend tells us had an origin and a termination, and were never said to be all-powerful in the first place, and that no sane person today believes actually exists, on the one hand, and the concept of the eternal Supreme Being on the other.
Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
The "n" word is no longer standard. But it was, in the recent past. The Old Tesramenr is full of "Our God is more powerful than you god" stuff. Maybe it's time to get over it.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:09 pmAlexiev wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:13 pmCalling people of sub Saharan African descent the "N" word is "standard English usage" too.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:45 pm
It's called "Standard English usage." But it also marks an important difference between two quite-different concepts: that of the fictional, superman-type god-being, such as Odin, Aphrodite or Hermes, which legend tells us had an origin and a termination, and were never said to be all-powerful in the first place, and that no sane person today believes actually exists, on the one hand, and the concept of the eternal Supreme Being on the other.You think that's the same thing? And you think that word is "Standard English"? It's not. It's a slang corruption of the Spanish word for "black." Check your etymology.
Also, the Bible clearly shows that its God is neither omnipotent nor omniscient. OK. He might be more powerful than Zeus. Odin is called "all seeing*, but he needs those Ravens to bring him news. Hyperbole is contradicted by the actual story. Same with the Bible.
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Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
It never was. It was always slang. Still is, as a matter of fact.Alexiev wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:43 pmThe "n" word is no longer standard.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:09 pmYou think that's the same thing? And you think that word is "Standard English"? It's not. It's a slang corruption of the Spanish word for "black." Check your etymology.
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Martin Peter Clarke
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Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
To the OP. A practice as old as Bronze Age religion. And therefore human for 4,000 years and more. Who are we to reprehend? How? Is it as reprehensible as the practice of designating particular humans as being divine spokesmen is utmost (sic) reprehensible?
Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
To the OP: What if you are half human, half God, like Herakles. Perseus, or Helen? Or Aeneus, for that matter.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:40 am To the OP. A practice as old as Bronze Age religion. And therefore human for 4,000 years and more. Who are we to reprehend? How? Is it as reprehensible as the practice of designating particular humans as being divine spokesmen is utmost (sic) reprehensible?
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Martin Peter Clarke
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Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
Absolutely. Or just breathtakingly beautiful? Or an extremely desirable pudding? Perhaps that's OK.Alexiev wrote: ↑Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:29 amTo the OP: What if you are half human, half God, like Herakles. Perseus, or Helen? Or Aeneus, for that matter.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:40 am To the OP. A practice as old as Bronze Age religion. And therefore human for 4,000 years and more. Who are we to reprehend? How? Is it as reprehensible as the practice of designating particular humans as being divine spokesmen is utmost (sic) reprehensible?
Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
Paganism is as despicable as Christianity, for pretty much the same reasons. There is no holy baboon, no holy chimp, and no holy hominid. All these things are just one more attempt at setting up a spectacular scam fest.
Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
How diminished human life would be without Greek Mythology, Egyptian Mythology, Christian Mythology, and even (though it pains me to so admit) Muslim mythology. Literature -- that greatest of cultural achievements -- developed out of mythology (oral literature). To despise Paganism and mythology is to despise humanity and its achievements. To despise one's religious heritage is (even for atheists) a form of self-hatred. As GK Chesterton once quipped: "I didn't develop my belief system; it developed me."
Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
I don't have anything against fairy tales. I am actually fine with them, as long as they don't end up costing half my assets.Alexiev wrote: ↑Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:59 amHow diminished human life would be without Greek Mythology, Egyptian Mythology, Christian Mythology, and even (though it pains me to so admit) Muslim mythology. Literature -- that greatest of cultural achievements -- developed out of mythology (oral literature). To despise Paganism and mythology is to despise humanity and its achievements. To despise one's religious heritage is (even for atheists) a form of self-hatred. As GK Chesterton once quipped: "I didn't develop my belief system; it developed me."
Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
Well, there are these Christian women who want to extract half your assets in exchange for a bit of boring starfish sex.
What they believe, is also a fairy tale, but they believe in it. However, it does not work if they cannot find some simp who also believes in it. So, their faith is very weak. It is not enough for them to believe in it for their belief to yield tangible results. The true nature of their belief is that it is some kind of twisted pyramid scheme:
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A pyramid scheme is a fraudulent business model that primarily focuses on recruiting new members rather than selling actual products or services.
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Martin Peter Clarke
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Re: The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
Aye, we're dealing with pathological misanthropy here. Another demonstration of the utter meaninglessness of free will. Nobody's fault. What's to be done? Nothing obviously, I just need to work through my not doing nothing! Leaving the 95% of meaningless threads hanging. This too will pass; the wisest thing ever said.Impenitent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:55 pm The practice of designating particular humans as being divine is utmost reprehensible
is not as reprehensible as
The practice of designating particular humans as being vermin is utmost reprehensible
which is much more common
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