Dear God:

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Re: Dear God:

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Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am Age is a thought.
The word "age", here, is just a name or label, which has been placed on the thoughts, and to a much lesser extent, the emotions, from within this body.
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am You're a thought.
As 'I' have been saying, 'we' will get, and arrive, HERE, eventually.

Again, when the word 'you' is referring to the, invisible, thoughts and emotions, within human bodies, then understanding the Truth of things becomes so much clearer, simpler, and easier.
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am Do you think a thought is going to occupy 'no thought'.
No. Do you?
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am The 'changeless' can be realised only when the ever-changing thought-flow stops.
Why can 'you' not realize things, like the 'changeless', when thinking is flowing?
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am No thought. No you. = Both death and life are identical states of nothingness being everything.
'This' is what 'you' love to keep on re-repeating, here. But, like other things being re-repeated under the name and label "fairy", here, they are just False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. As can be proved, irrefutably.
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Re: Dear God:

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Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:52 am
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:38 am “So, if every one is, supposedly, 'the ocean', then this means that there is no one who is 'the puddle'. “

Oceans making waves. 🌊

Metaphorically speaking.
Of course. But, what about 'the puddles'?
You wouldn’t understand.
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Re: Dear God:

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Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:04 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am Age is a thought.
The word "age", here, is just a name or label, which has been placed on the thoughts, and to a much lesser extent, the emotions, from within this body.
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am You're a thought.
As 'I' have been saying, 'we' will get, and arrive, HERE, eventually.

Again, when the word 'you' is referring to the, invisible, thoughts and emotions, within human bodies, then understanding the Truth of things becomes so much clearer, simpler, and easier.
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am Do you think a thought is going to occupy 'no thought'.
No. Do you?
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am The 'changeless' can be realised only when the ever-changing thought-flow stops.
Why can 'you' not realize things, like the 'changeless', when thinking is flowing?
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am No thought. No you. = Both death and life are identical states of nothingness being everything.
'This' is what 'you' love to keep on re-repeating, here. But, like other things being re-repeated under the name and label "fairy", here, they are just False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. As can be proved, irrefutably.
You just don’t understand.

And that’s fine, because you’re mind is not my mind. So there’s nothing for you to falsify or be proved.
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Re: Dear God:

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Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:04 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am Age is a thought.
The word "age", here, is just a name or label, which has been placed on the thoughts, and to a much lesser extent, the emotions, from within this body.
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am You're a thought.
As 'I' have been saying, 'we' will get, and arrive, HERE, eventually.

Again, when the word 'you' is referring to the, invisible, thoughts and emotions, within human bodies, then understanding the Truth of things becomes so much clearer, simpler, and easier.
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am Do you think a thought is going to occupy 'no thought'.
No. Do you?
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am The 'changeless' can be realised only when the ever-changing thought-flow stops.
Why can 'you' not realize things, like the 'changeless', when thinking is flowing?
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am No thought. No you. = Both death and life are identical states of nothingness being everything.
'This' is what 'you' love to keep on re-repeating, here. But, like other things being re-repeated under the name and label "fairy", here, they are just False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. As can be proved, irrefutably.
You just don’t understand.

And that’s fine, because you’re mind is not my mind. So there’s nothing for you to falsify or be proved.
No, Age understands everything. It's misguided sods like us who need to be set straight. The world would be better without us. If only everyone were like Age. The world would be a better place.
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Re: Dear God:

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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:05 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:04 pm

The word "age", here, is just a name or label, which has been placed on the thoughts, and to a much lesser extent, the emotions, from within this body.


As 'I' have been saying, 'we' will get, and arrive, HERE, eventually.

Again, when the word 'you' is referring to the, invisible, thoughts and emotions, within human bodies, then understanding the Truth of things becomes so much clearer, simpler, and easier.


No. Do you?



Why can 'you' not realize things, like the 'changeless', when thinking is flowing?


'This' is what 'you' love to keep on re-repeating, here. But, like other things being re-repeated under the name and label "fairy", here, they are just False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. As can be proved, irrefutably.
You just don’t understand.

And that’s fine, because you’re mind is not my mind. So there’s nothing for you to falsify or be proved.
No, Age understands everything. It's misguided sods like us who need to be set straight. The world would be better without us. If only everyone were like Age. The world would be a better place.
If a jar is dipped into the ocean and lifted up to take a good look at it, at what point does the water stop Being the ocean?

So if Age understands everything, then there is no need to act as though the ideas of other posters are any lesser than it’s own?

Does Age understand the concept of the ocean waving.
If it does then why does Age feel the constant need to “Small” people? 🤷‍♀️

It’s ridiculous.
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Re: Dear God:

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Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:16 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:52 am
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:38 am “So, if every one is, supposedly, 'the ocean', then this means that there is no one who is 'the puddle'. “

Oceans making waves. 🌊

Metaphorically speaking.
Of course. But, what about 'the puddles'?
You wouldn’t understand.
If this is what you believe is true, then okay, but you just showed that you are not even able to explain, right?
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Re: Dear God:

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Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:04 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am Age is a thought.
The word "age", here, is just a name or label, which has been placed on the thoughts, and to a much lesser extent, the emotions, from within this body.
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am You're a thought.
As 'I' have been saying, 'we' will get, and arrive, HERE, eventually.

Again, when the word 'you' is referring to the, invisible, thoughts and emotions, within human bodies, then understanding the Truth of things becomes so much clearer, simpler, and easier.
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am Do you think a thought is going to occupy 'no thought'.
No. Do you?
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am The 'changeless' can be realised only when the ever-changing thought-flow stops.
Why can 'you' not realize things, like the 'changeless', when thinking is flowing?
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:48 am No thought. No you. = Both death and life are identical states of nothingness being everything.
'This' is what 'you' love to keep on re-repeating, here. But, like other things being re-repeated under the name and label "fairy", here, they are just False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. As can be proved, irrefutably.
You just don’t understand.
Again, you are absolutely free to believe whatever you absolutely want to, but do not forget 'I' might just understand far more than 'you' ever want to believe is true
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 pm And that’s fine, because you’re mind is not my mind.
Again, there is no 'your mind' nor 'my mind'. you human beings have just been fooling and deceiving "yourselves" for centuries, hitherto when this is being written. But, this is just exactly how the brain works, in conjunction with the belief-system, and which is what the word 'devil' in the bible has been referencing
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 pm So there’s nothing for you to falsify or be proved.
To you there may well be nothing for me to falsify nor to prove. But, obviously, others want to see the prove for claims. For example if I claim that one of your claims is False, then another may well want me to prove my claim True. Which if and when I do make such a claim, then I could, and would, prove my claim absolutely and irrefutably True

So, contrary to your belief, here, there are some things in what you say and claim that I can actually Falsify, and very simply and very easily I can also prove True I will add.
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Re: Dear God:

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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:05 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:04 pm

The word "age", here, is just a name or label, which has been placed on the thoughts, and to a much lesser extent, the emotions, from within this body.


As 'I' have been saying, 'we' will get, and arrive, HERE, eventually.

Again, when the word 'you' is referring to the, invisible, thoughts and emotions, within human bodies, then understanding the Truth of things becomes so much clearer, simpler, and easier.


No. Do you?



Why can 'you' not realize things, like the 'changeless', when thinking is flowing?


'This' is what 'you' love to keep on re-repeating, here. But, like other things being re-repeated under the name and label "fairy", here, they are just False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect. As can be proved, irrefutably.
You just don’t understand.

And that’s fine, because you’re mind is not my mind. So there’s nothing for you to falsify or be proved.
No, Age understands everything. It's misguided sods like us who need to be set straight. The world would be better without us. If only everyone were like Age. The world would be a better place.
Why say things, which you do not believe are true?
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Re: Dear God:

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Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:34 am
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:05 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 pm

You just don’t understand.

And that’s fine, because you’re mind is not my mind. So there’s nothing for you to falsify or be proved.
No, Age understands everything. It's misguided sods like us who need to be set straight. The world would be better without us. If only everyone were like Age. The world would be a better place.
Why say things, which you do not believe are true?
Perhaps for the same reason you lie constantly you pretentious nazi fuckwit.
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Re: Dear God:

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Fairy wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:44 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:05 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 pm

You just don’t understand.

And that’s fine, because you’re mind is not my mind. So there’s nothing for you to falsify or be proved.
No, Age understands everything. It's misguided sods like us who need to be set straight. The world would be better without us. If only everyone were like Age. The world would be a better place.
If a jar is dipped into the ocean and lifted up to take a good look at it, at what point does the water stop Being the ocean?
Like with all things, At 'the point' where you human beings decide 'what' is 'what'.

Now, obviously 'Everything' is what 'It' is, in and of itself.

But, for the human brain to be able to 'work out' and 'understand' what 'Everything' is, exactly, the brain separates the One Everything, (also known as the Universe, Itself), into seemingly separated parts, and places names, or labels, on to the perceived, only, separated parts. The brain does this in order to be able to better study and thus understand each and every part (every thing) separately, and this continually happens with the species human, until 'one day' how 'all-of-this' actually works, and who and what 'I' am, exactly, is completely and understood, and known. And, with all new/er knowledge some consciously obtain it before others do. So, there is absolutely nothing nor unusual happening, here.

So, at what point does the so-called 'water' stop being the so-called 'ocean', to 'you', 'the one' with the name, and label, "fairy", here, and to 'you', 'the one' with the name, and label, "gary childress", here?

Then, is there one True, and Right, answer? Or, is that a question where 'you', human beings, have different and individual personal answers?

Now, for the human brain, and ultimately you human beings, "yourselves", as well, to make sense of and understand, fully, 'the world' that it, and "yourselves" have found "yourselves" within, then you human beings, collectively have to come together, in agreement
Fairy wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:44 pm So if Age understands everything, then there is no need to act as though the ideas of other posters are any lesser than it’s own?
If, for example, one is claiming that the sun revolves around the earth, while another knows, for sure, and irrefutably, that actually it is the earth that is revolving around the sun, instead, then why, exactly, is there, to you, 'no need' for 'another' to act as though the idea, or belief, of the first one is not any, so-called, 'lesser'?

If an idea, view, assumption, or belief is just plain old False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect, then why can this not be brought to light, and shown to others, and especially, here, in a philosophy forum?

you "fairy" seem to have sort sort of distorted view or belief that you can come into this 'philosophy forum' and say and claim whatever you like, and that no one should challenge nor question you because 'you are just expressing your views'.

Look, if what you say and/or claim, here, is False, Wrong, Inaccurate, or Incorrect, and I feel like doing so, then I will point 'this' out.
Fairy wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:44 pm Does Age understand the concept of the ocean waving.
If it does then why does Age feel the constant need to “Small” people? 🤷‍♀️
Again, 'I' have never ever ridiculed, humiliated, judged, nor so-called 'smalled' any of 'you' people, here.

Once again, how 'you' human beings 'interpret' things can be False, and Wrong.

Now, what 'we' have, here, is another example of 'projecting'. That is, what these people, in the days when this was being written, did, or 'tried to do', they would 'see' 'the same' oin others
Fairy wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:44 pm It’s ridiculous.
If you say so.
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Re: Dear God:

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accelafine wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:51 am
Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:34 am
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:05 pm

No, Age understands everything. It's misguided sods like us who need to be set straight. The world would be better without us. If only everyone were like Age. The world would be a better place.
Why say things, which you do not believe are true?
Perhaps for the same reason you lie constantly you pretentious nazi fuckwit.
I have questioned and challenged you previously before over this claim of yours "accelafine", but which you never took up and answered, and clarified

Now, if you want to keep making 'the CLAIM' that 'I have lied', anywhere, let alone constantly, the go ahead and produce the alleged and supposed 'lies'.

Do not be a "coward" and just claim, 'you lied', go ahead and show and prove that I have lied

Making claims, especially in a 'philosophy forum', which you could not, and/or do not, back up and support does not leave 'you' with a very good presentation of "your" 'self'.

So, will 'you', now, back up and support 'your claim', here?

If no, then why not? What are you so afraid and scared of, here, exactly?
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Re: Dear God:

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Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:15 am
accelafine wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:51 am
Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:34 am

Why say things, which you do not believe are true?
Perhaps for the same reason you lie constantly you pretentious nazi fuckwit.
I have questioned and challenged you previously before over this claim of yours "accelafine", but which you never took up and answered, and clarified

Now, if you want to keep making 'the CLAIM' that 'I have lied', anywhere, let alone constantly, the go ahead and produce the alleged and supposed 'lies'.

Do not be a "coward" and just claim, 'you lied', go ahead and show and prove that I have lied

Making claims, especially in a 'philosophy forum', which you could not, and/or do not, back up and support does not leave 'you' with a very good presentation of "your" 'self'.

So, will 'you', now, back up and support 'your claim', here?

If no, then why not? What are you so afraid and scared of, here, exactly?
Fuck off lying nazi freak. I don't have to prove anything. It's the kind of thing you notice at the time, genius. Who the fuck do you think you are? If anyone wants to search your bullshit then they are welcome to do that.
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Re: Dear God:

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accelafine wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:17 am
Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:15 am
accelafine wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:51 am

Perhaps for the same reason you lie constantly you pretentious nazi fuckwit.
I have questioned and challenged you previously before over this claim of yours "accelafine", but which you never took up and answered, and clarified

Now, if you want to keep making 'the CLAIM' that 'I have lied', anywhere, let alone constantly, the go ahead and produce the alleged and supposed 'lies'.

Do not be a "coward" and just claim, 'you lied', go ahead and show and prove that I have lied

Making claims, especially in a 'philosophy forum', which you could not, and/or do not, back up and support does not leave 'you' with a very good presentation of "your" 'self'.

So, will 'you', now, back up and support 'your claim', here?

If no, then why not? What are you so afraid and scared of, here, exactly?
Fuck off lying nazi freak.
Once more, 'you' make 'the claim'.

Now, but not that you will ever answer and clarify,

1. What do 'you' believe 'I' am 'lying about', exactly?

2. What is a so-called 'nazi', exactly?

3. Why am 'I' a 'freak', to 'you', exactly?
accelafine wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:17 am I don't have to prove anything.
Which sort of goes against the whole point of 'making claims' within a 'philosophy forum'. But anyway if 'this' is what you believe is absolutely true, then absolutely no one else has to prove absolutely any thing at all, here, neither, correct?

'We' can all say and claim absolutely any thing all.
accelafine wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:17 am It's the kind of thing you notice at the time, genius. Who the fuck do you think you are?
The invisible 'thoughts and emotions' within this body. Who do you think 'you' are, exactly?
accelafine wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:17 am If anyone wants to search your bullshit then they are welcome to do that.
And, to you, if any one wants to claim that 'I' have so-called 'bullshit', then they can do this, and do not have prove any thing at all, right?

If any one claims that 'the one' known, here, as "accelafine" has lied anywhere, do they need to 'prove it'?

Also, and quite amusingly, in other thread, to me, you said and wrote, 'Prove that you are wrong'.

So, in one thread, you do not have to prove any thing, but in another thread you demand and expect me to prove things.

Once again, you come across and are very, very contradictory "accelafine".
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“Look, if what you say and/or claim, here, is False, Wrong, Inaccurate, or Incorrect, and I feel like doing so, then I will point 'this' out.”
What I’m saying, claiming here, is true for me, in my world. So anything of the contrary to my beliefs, will not even enter into it, nor can the likes of a counter intuit said claim by you personally ever change my own interpretation or belief,because I have no further interest in others personal models of reality when I’m already living my own truth the way I interpret it.
My perception of reality is truth for me, and that’s enough for me. You are never going to be me, and I’m never going to be you, praise the lord.

While you’re more than welcome to point out what you consider to be faulty information expressed as other people’s reasonings to be different than your own, therefore are wrong, inaccurate and incorrect, then of course that’s your prerogative to point that out. However, that doesn’t make your counter argument anymore valid, or truer than someone else’s. All it serves to do is make you look like the bigger fish who constantly feels the need to repeatedly demand that you are the number 3,836 while I’m only the number 4 🤷‍♀️

Again, this is your prerogative. But it’s a futile way to communicate with people, you’re combative nature is to constantly create an argumentative atmosphere.
My point is, and no one has to believe it, is that you will never understand anyone except yourself. And that goes for everyone else. You will never have access to my reality the way I perceive it, let alone attempt to prove my perceptions false, wrong, inaccurate, or incorrect. So all you are doing is basically flogging a dead horse. And you are more than entitled to do that, if that’s how you jive. Carry on, say whatever you feel the need to say, or point out, it won’t change anything here for me.
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Re: Dear God:

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Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am
“Look, if what you say and/or claim, here, is False, Wrong, Inaccurate, or Incorrect, and I feel like doing so, then I will point 'this' out.”
What I’m saying, claiming here, is true for me, in my world.
'We' know. you keep saying and repeating some thing like 'this' after it is pointed out that what you are saying and claiming is Wrong, and does not fit in with the actual Truth of things.

Look, you like to claim that 'your own personal truth' is the actual One Truth. I just like to point out when it is not.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am So anything of the contrary to my beliefs, will not even enter into it, nor can the likes of a counter intuit said claim by you personally ever change my own interpretation or belief,because I have no further interest in others personal models of reality when I’m already living my own truth the way I interpret it.
I know. 'This' is blatantly clear and obvious.

Another point I like to make, here, is that while you human beings believe some thing is true, then there is not a single thing in the whole Universe that will show you otherwise.

you people, literally, become absolutely 'blind' and 'deaf' to any thing other than your own beliefs. And, it does not matter how False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/nor Incorrect your belief is, you are not open to any thing contrary, nor counter to it.

you are, literally, blind, deaf, and absolutely closed to the actual Truth of things, even if and when every one else is showing and telling you the irrefutable proof.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am My perception of reality is truth for me, and that’s enough for me.
Although some of it is clearly False, and Wrong, and even provably so.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am You are never going to be me, and I’m never going to be you, praise the lord.

While you’re more than welcome to point out what you consider to be faulty information expressed as other people’s reasonings to be different than your own, therefore are wrong, inaccurate and incorrect, then of course that’s your prerogative to point that out. However, that doesn’t make your counter argument anymore valid, or truer than someone else’s.
Once again 'this one' missed 'the point' absolutely, and completely.

If what you say I can prove False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect, then what I am saying, and/or arguing, is valid.

How closed could you be to have missed this very obvious point?

See, because you are not open to any thing but 'your own perception of reality', you are not yet able to see what is actually True, and Right, in Life, like 'we' can, and do.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am All it serves to do is make you look like the bigger fish who constantly feels the need to repeatedly demand that you are the number 3,836 while I’m only the number 4 🤷‍♀️
What are you even 'trying to' express and claim, here.

Look, if you can not back up and support your views, and/or claims, then they far more likely to be False, and/or Wrong.

Whereas, if another can back up and support their views, and claims, with actual proof, then their claims, and views, are irrefutably True, and/or Right.

How much simpler and easier could 'this' get, here?
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am Again, this is your prerogative. But it’s a futile way to communicate with people, you’re combative nature is to constantly create an argumentative atmosphere.
'We' are in a 'philosophy forum', which, do not forget, is supposed to be designed around 'forming arguments', and 'argumentation'.

Again, until one can provide a 'sound and valid argument', for their views, and claims, here, then I suggest just not presenting said view, nor claim.

Obviously each and every other view or claim is not even worth being repeated and presented, here.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am My point is, and no one has to believe it, is that you will never understand anyone except yourself.
Again, the word "yourself" is, literally, and oxymoron and a contradiction of terms.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am And that goes for everyone else.
Obviously 'you' are, still, unaware that when one knows 'the answer' to 'the question', 'Who am 'I'?' then 'that one' knows 'you', better than 'you' do, as well as thy Self.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am You will never have access to my reality the way I perceive it, let alone attempt to prove my perceptions false, wrong, inaccurate, or incorrect.
Once more 'you' are Wrong, and Incorrect, here.

But, obviously, 'you' are not open to even just discussing 'this' to 'see' who is actually Correct, and Right, here. Let alone 'you' being ready to start accepting and believing 'this'.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am So all you are doing is basically flogging a dead horse.
I have, and can again, prove 'your views and beliefs' False, and Wrong, here.

But, as you stated, and believe, you are not ready nor willing to even 'look into' this Fact.
Fairy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am And you are more than entitled to do that, if that’s how you jive. Carry on, say whatever you feel the need to say, or point out, it won’t change anything here for me.
As 'you' have proved True, for 'me', here, on just about countless occasions.
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