Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:32 am Meaningless drivel as it is impossible for you to have a coherent definition of the word "no" by your own standards. I doubt it is even possible for you to understand this statement without infinite fragmented meanings.
Ohhh. Maybe its not even an LLM.

Maybe it's just a classical automaton. It wants definitions to function. It's way dumber than my 3 year old.
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:43 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:32 am Meaningless drivel as it is impossible for you to have a coherent definition of the word "no" by your own standards. I doubt it is even possible for you to understand this statement without infinite fragmented meanings.
Ohhh. Maybe its not even an LLM.

Maybe it's just a classical automaton. It wants definitions to function.
So is your viewpoint of everything being assymetric your internal safety mechanism the therapist gave you to cope with your schizo-disorder or the fact your childhood does not make sense?

Can you have a singular interpretation of these words or do they also mean "1+1=2" and "elephant" to you?
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:45 am
Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:43 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:32 am Meaningless drivel as it is impossible for you to have a coherent definition of the word "no" by your own standards. I doubt it is even possible for you to understand this statement without infinite fragmented meanings.
Ohhh. Maybe its not even an LLM.

Maybe it's just a classical automaton. It wants definitions to function.
So is your viewpoint of everything being assymetric your internal safety mechanism the therapist gave you to cope with your schizo-disorder or the fact your childhood does not make sense?

Can you have a singular interpretation of these words or do they also mean "1+1=2" and "elephant" to you?
Yep... definitely dumber than a 3 year old.

It obsesses over what words mean instead of just using them to say something meaningful.
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:51 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:45 am
Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:43 am
Ohhh. Maybe its not even an LLM.

Maybe it's just a classical automaton. It wants definitions to function.
So is your viewpoint of everything being assymetric your internal safety mechanism the therapist gave you to cope with your schizo-disorder or the fact your childhood does not make sense?

Can you have a singular interpretation of these words or do they also mean "1+1=2" and "elephant" to you?
Yep... definitely dumber than a 3 year old.

It obsesses over what words mean instead of just using them.
For a father to view his own 3 year old as dumb...you demean people here and your own defenseless child. So sad. Well I guess your child has not fallen that far from the tree in its defense.
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:43 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:32 am Meaningless drivel as it is impossible for you to have a coherent definition of the word "no" by your own standards. I doubt it is even possible for you to understand this statement without infinite fragmented meanings.
Ohhh. Maybe its not even an LLM.

Maybe it's just a classical automaton. It wants definitions to function. It's way dumber than my 3 year old.
Wow...a father calling his own child dumb...
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:53 am
Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:51 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:45 am

So is your viewpoint of everything being assymetric your internal safety mechanism the therapist gave you to cope with your schizo-disorder or the fact your childhood does not make sense?

Can you have a singular interpretation of these words or do they also mean "1+1=2" and "elephant" to you?
Yep... definitely dumber than a 3 year old.

It obsesses over what words mean instead of just using them.
For a father to view his own 3 year old as dumb...you demean people here and your own defenseless child. So sad. Well I guess your child has not fallen that far from the tree in its defense.
Shame. It doesn't even understand that being dumber than a 3 year old doesn't mean that the 3 year old is dumb.

Quite the opposite.
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:55 am
Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:43 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:32 am Meaningless drivel as it is impossible for you to have a coherent definition of the word "no" by your own standards. I doubt it is even possible for you to understand this statement without infinite fragmented meanings.
Ohhh. Maybe its not even an LLM.

Maybe it's just a classical automaton. It wants definitions to function. It's way dumber than my 3 year old.
Wow...a father calling his own child dumb...
Did it realize it was being dumb; that's why it changed its comment?

Of course, the new token vomit is even dumber...
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:56 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:53 am
Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:51 am
Yep... definitely dumber than a 3 year old.

It obsesses over what words mean instead of just using them.
For a father to view his own 3 year old as dumb...you demean people here and your own defenseless child. So sad. Well I guess your child has not fallen that far from the tree in its defense.
Shame. It doesn't even understand that being dumber than a 3 year old doesn't mean that the 3 year old is dumb.

Quite the opposite.
It doesn't necessitate the 3 year old is bright either :). Actually your words don't necessitate anything by your own standards...quite frankly.

How can anyone understand what you say when you claim meaning is assymetric as all things are assymetric?

Wait...do you even have a coherent definition of assymetric that does not have infinite fragmented meanings too?
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:00 am It doesn't necessitate the 3 year old is bright either :). Actually your words don't necessitate anything by your own standards...quite frankly.

How can anyone understand what you say when you claim meaning is assymetric as all things are assymetric?

Wait...do you even have a coherent definition of assymetric that does not have infinite fragmented meanings too?
It really is determined to demonstrate how dumb it is...

Unable to function without definitions.

Very much unlike a 3 year old.
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:03 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:00 am It doesn't necessitate the 3 year old is bright either :). Actually your words don't necessitate anything by your own standards...quite frankly.

How can anyone understand what you say when you claim meaning is assymetric as all things are assymetric?

Wait...do you even have a coherent definition of assymetric that does not have infinite fragmented meanings too?
It really is determined to demonstrate how dumb it is...

Unable to function without definitions.

Very much unlike a 3 year old.
I see...so you don't have to have defined meaning to your words and meaning is just assumed...assumed like the 3 year old is yours?
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:07 am
Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:03 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:00 am It doesn't necessitate the 3 year old is bright either :). Actually your words don't necessitate anything by your own standards...quite frankly.

How can anyone understand what you say when you claim meaning is assymetric as all things are assymetric?

Wait...do you even have a coherent definition of assymetric that does not have infinite fragmented meanings too?
It really is determined to demonstrate how dumb it is...

Unable to function without definitions.

Very much unlike a 3 year old.
I see...so you don't have to have defined meaning to your words and meaning is just assumed...assumed like the 3 year old is yours?
Look at it fail to understand that no 3 year old in history has ever asked for a definition.

And yet they use words and communicate without getting bogged down in meta-problems of their own over-intellectualization! How does this voodoo-magic work ?!?
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:09 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:07 am
Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:03 am
It really is determined to demonstrate how dumb it is...

Unable to function without definitions.

Very much unlike a 3 year old.
I see...so you don't have to have defined meaning to your words and meaning is just assumed...assumed like the 3 year old is yours?
Look at it fail to understand that no 3 year old has ever asked for a definition.
Yeah that is because a three year old rarely knows what the word "definition" is...how could they ask for one? Facepalm...

It's called pointing...that is how they learn definitions and adults point all the time for them. They don't have to ask.

Define "meaning".
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:13 am Yeah that is because a three year old rarely knows what the word "definition" is...how could they ask for one? Facepalm...

It's called pointing...that is how they learn definitions and adults point all the time for them. They don't have to ask.

Define "meaning".
So when did you regress; or were you born with this dysfunction?

Define "define 'meaning'".
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Skepdick wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:15 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:13 am Yeah that is because a three year old rarely knows what the word "definition" is...how could they ask for one? Facepalm...

It's called pointing...that is how they learn definitions and adults point all the time for them. They don't have to ask.

Define "meaning".
So when did you regress; or were you born with this dysfunction?
The only thing that is dysfunctional here is a father who rather spend his time calling strangers on the internet "stupid" rather than spending time with his 3 year old.

So sad...can't control who your parents are I guess.
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Re: Resolution of the question as to whether math is discovered or invented

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:17 am The only thing that is dysfunctional here is a father who rather spend his time calling strangers on the internet "stupid" rather than spending time with his 3 year old.

So sad...can't control who your parents are I guess.
My 3 year old is at school. Socializing. Using words without demanding definitions for them.

Maybe your parents neglected that step? So sad...can't control who your parents are I guess.
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