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Re: My thoughts on Israel

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Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:14 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:39 am
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:57 am

That was around the time, I believe, of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The one who was pro-Hitler and visited him a few times, to discuss their thoughts about the Jews.
Touche. The very same grand mufti who thought the Nazis weren't moving fast enough to eradicate Jews.
Up until that time there were some, at least, among the Nazis who advocated sending the Jews to Palestine, but it was he who persuaded them not to.
I didn't know that. Heartbreaking to think about.
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Re: My thoughts on Israel

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accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:21 am
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:14 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:39 am

Touche. The very same grand mufti who thought the Nazis weren't moving fast enough to eradicate Jews.
Up until that time there were some, at least, among the Nazis who advocated sending the Jews to Palestine, but it was he who persuaded them not to.
I didn't know that. Heartbreaking to think about.
Yes, very much so.
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Re: My thoughts on Israel

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accelafine wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:28 pm
Age wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:22 pm

Interesting that some people became as blind, closed, and as stupid as 'this one' clearly and plainly is.
'This one' is correct, since it's referring to yourself. You need to get out of your AI-induced bullshit propaganda algorithm and grow a brain. I suppose you expect Israel to just forget about the rest of the hostages and sit around and wait for another depraved act of genocide from your heroes in Hamas (you know, the group that's slaughtering its own people and blaming Israel so that virtue-signalling Jew-hating cnuts like you can get their rocks off and claim the moral high ground).
Talk about a prime example of a "jew" lover, and an 'other' hater. it can only see "one-side" of things.
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Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:51 am
accelafine wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:07 pm Everyone I've known who has visited Israel has loved it, and none of them are Jewish or even religious.
No wonder the 'palestinians' are eaten up with hatred and bitterness. How furious they are that Jews created a beautiful, thriving country, while 'palestinians' were spending vast amounts of money on ways to kill them instead of on making a nice place for themselves. Interesting that Israeli Arabs don't share that hatred and resentment...
Indeed, I would recommend it to anyone. Especially those who have swallowed the anti-Israel propaganda pumped out by the media.
And, what is the so-called 'anti-israel' propaganda, exactly?

Also, is there any 'pro-israel' propaganda, to you?
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:51 am Places like Gaza could have been really lovely, with their Mediterranean coast.
And, those places, like every other place, is so-called 'lovely'. That is, until you adult human beings ruin and destroy them.
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Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:04 am
Age wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:06 pm
Maia wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:35 pm

I think if they're attacked by terrorists, and terrorist regimes, they have a right to defend themselves.
Do you also think when people on other countries are attacked by "israeli terrorist regime" that they have a right to defend "themselves", as well?
Maia wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:35 pm What I hope works out for them is that they can live in peace, in their own country, free from such attacks.
Do you hope this for each and every person on earth, or only for some particular groups of people?
Israel is a democracy, with freedom of speech and belief. It is not a terrorist regime.
you are free to believe absolutely any thing that you want to. But, just put "yourself" 'in the shoes' of a child who is living in areas where "Israel" is dropping bombs all around you, and tell me that you would not be terrified, by the "terrorists" who are dropping the bombs.
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:04 am I wish for peace for everyone on earth who also wishes for peace.
Yet you are the one who is picking a "side", which is what causes judgment, hatred, and wars.

Also, wishing for peace for some, only, which is exactly what you are doing, here, is why judgment, hatred, and wars continue.
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Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:18 am
Age wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:22 pm
accelafine wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:07 pm Everyone I've known who has visited Israel has loved it, and none of them are Jewish or even religious.
No wonder the 'palestinians' are eaten up with hatred and bitterness.
So, the "palestinians" are not being 'eaten up' with hatred and bitterness because they are being continually oppressed, bombed, and killed, and because the lands that they lived on is being continually taken from them, but solely because other people love visiting "israel".

'This' really was how closed and blind some people really were, back in the days when this was being written.
accelafine wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:07 pm How furious they are that Jews created a beautiful, thriving country, while 'palestinians' were spending vast amounts of money on ways to kill them instead of on making a nice place for themselves. Interesting that Israeli Arabs don't share that hatred and resentment...
Interesting that some people became as blind, closed, and as stupid as 'this one' clearly and plainly is.
The Palestinians lost land every time they launched a war against Israel and lost.
Another one who can not yet see the whole and full picture, here.

And, 'trying to' 'justify' wars, and/or land taking, just shows and narrowed and closed some people really were, back when this was being written.
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:18 am This includes, for example, the war that all the surrounding Arab countries launched against Israel at the time of its creation.
you speak as though it is perfectly acceptable for some people to just go to other people's home and and the 'other people' do not have any rights at all.
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:18 am And yet, even today, something like 20% of the population of Israel are Arab Muslims. Another 50% of the rest, or around that, are Arab Jews, who were expelled from Arab countries, where some had been living for well over two millennia (long before there were any Muslims), at the time of the creation of Israel. Where did the Arabs expect they were going to go?
Do you really want to look at "one-side", only, here?
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accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:39 am
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:57 am
LuckyR wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:50 pm

A perfectly reasonable anecdote... that someone could have written in 1930 about the British Mandate of Palestine.
That was around the time, I believe, of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The one who was pro-Hitler and visited him a few times, to discuss their thoughts about the Jews.
Touche. The very same grand mufti who thought the Nazis weren't moving fast enough to eradicate Jews.
In order to make some people 'think', just maybe "adolf hitler" had some actual foresight.
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Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:32 am
accelafine wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:28 pm
Age wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:22 pm

Interesting that some people became as blind, closed, and as stupid as 'this one' clearly and plainly is.
'This one' is correct, since it's referring to yourself. You need to get out of your AI-induced bullshit propaganda algorithm and grow a brain. I suppose you expect Israel to just forget about the rest of the hostages and sit around and wait for another depraved act of genocide from your heroes in Hamas (you know, the group that's slaughtering its own people and blaming Israel so that virtue-signalling Jew-hating cnuts like you can get their rocks off and claim the moral high ground).
Talk about a prime example of a "jew" lover, and an 'other' hater. it can only see "one-side" of things.
Fuck off nazi weirdo.
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Re: My thoughts on Israel

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Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:46 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:39 am
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:57 am

That was around the time, I believe, of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The one who was pro-Hitler and visited him a few times, to discuss their thoughts about the Jews.
Touche. The very same grand mufti who thought the Nazis weren't moving fast enough to eradicate Jews.
In order to make some people 'think', just maybe "adolf hitler" had some actual foresight.
I wasn't expecting that, I must admit. I rest my case.
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Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:55 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:46 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:39 am

Touche. The very same grand mufti who thought the Nazis weren't moving fast enough to eradicate Jews.
In order to make some people 'think', just maybe "adolf hitler" had some actual foresight.
I wasn't expecting that, I must admit. I rest my case.
What case is that?
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Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:55 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:46 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:39 am

Touche. The very same grand mufti who thought the Nazis weren't moving fast enough to eradicate Jews.
In order to make some people 'think', just maybe "adolf hitler" had some actual foresight.
I wasn't expecting that, I must admit. I rest my case.
Indeed. The liitle creep is showing his true colours.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:02 pm
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:55 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:46 am

In order to make some people 'think', just maybe "adolf hitler" had some actual foresight.
I wasn't expecting that, I must admit. I rest my case.
What case is that?
That coverage of the conflict is heavily biased against Israel, usually because of anti-Jewish sentiment.
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accelafine wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:06 pm
Maia wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:55 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:46 am

In order to make some people 'think', just maybe "adolf hitler" had some actual foresight.
I wasn't expecting that, I must admit. I rest my case.
Indeed. The liitle creep is showing his true colours.
They sometimes don't even bother to hide it.
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No, you guys still don't get it with Age. He's not a Nazi, just an autistic resident contrarian. If you're sidin with the Joos, he's gotta side with the Nazis for a minute so he can challenge your claims. Duddint matter what the content of the argument is. He's gonna play the socrates that takes the counter position. You say the Red Sox are better. He'll say the White Sox could be better unless we irrefutably clarify.
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promethean75 wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:25 pm No, you guys still don't get it with Age. He's not a Nazi, just an autistic resident contrarian. If you're sidin with the Joos, he's gotta side with the Nazis for a minute so he can challenge your claims. Duddint matter what the content of the argument is. He's gonna play the socrates that takes the counter position. You say the Red Sox are better. He'll say the White Sox could be better unless we irrefutably clarify.
Being a contrarian is fine, and all, but I completely disagree with that.
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