Marjorie Taylor Greene is right

[Gary Childress]

Is it possible that the MAGA Republicans will refuse to go the same route as so many other US presidents and send our young people to fight, kill and die in foreign wars? Or will the MAGA movement stand by and watch Trump the "new boss, same as the old boss?" get us mired in Iran?

https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1935004625238945952

Thoughts?

[Gary Childress]

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-se ... agandists/

When it comes to the conflict between Israel and Iran, the U.S. government and President Donald Trump most of all, needs to listen to America First conservatives who know that the people of the U.S. do not want our country involved in another regime change war.

[Walker]

Is it possible that the MAGA Republicans will refuse to go the same route as so many other US presidents and send our young people to fight, kill and die in foreign wars? Or will the MAGA movement stand by and watch Trump the "new boss, same as the old boss?" get us mired in Iran?

https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1935004625238945952

Thoughts?

Iran has mired the world in the miasma of terrorism for half a century. Ending the cause of that would end the mire. Not ending it continues the mire.

Trump wants to end Iran’s nuclear threat. Sounds like one of those 30 thousand pound bunker busters would do the job if there’s only the one site left and it hasn’t been moved.

Iran can then determine its own fate while continuing to suppress its own population, which won't include nuking Israel or any other infidels.

It doesn't take mire time to drop a bunker buster.

[FlashDangerpants]

Is it possible that the MAGA Republicans will refuse to go the same route as so many other US presidents and send our young people to fight, kill and die in foreign wars? Or will the MAGA movement stand by and watch Trump the "new boss, same as the old boss?" get us mired in Iran?

https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1935004625238945952

Thoughts?

Iran has mired the world in the miasma of terrorism for half a century. Ending the cause of that would end the mire. Not ending it continues the mire.

Trump wants to end Iran’s nuclear threat. Sounds like one of those 30 thousand pound bunker busters would do the job if there’s only the one site left and it hasn’t been moved.

Iran can then determine its own fate while continuing to suppress its own population, which won't include nuking Israel or any other infidels.

It doesn't take mire time to drop a bunker buster.

You read it here first folks, Walker reckons this all goes quiet after one bunker buster shuts down the entire Iranian nuclear program all clean and simple and no spreading of violence around the middle east... better buy one of those "Mission accomplished" banners.

Good news for Putin though, Oil prices will go right back up when the Iranians close Hormuz up good and tight. You can put little "I did that" stickers on the gas pumps of America again. That will be nice.

[Walker]

Checkmate! Israel’s brilliant war against Iran
By Andrea Widburg
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... _iran.html

This sounds reasonable ... unlike FlashDangerPants.

Eliminate the old trolls.

Israel can take care of that and keep Trump's hands clean.

[FlashDangerpants]

Checkmate! Israel’s brilliant war against Iran
By Andrea Widburg
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... _iran.html

This sounds reasonable ... unlike FlashDangerPants.

Eliminate the old trolls.

Israel can take care of that and keep Trump's hands clean.

You were definitely one of the people who was totally sure that the Iraqis would be thankful when America bombed and invaded them.

[Gary Childress]

Checkmate! Israel’s brilliant war against Iran
By Andrea Widburg
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... _iran.html

This sounds reasonable ... unlike FlashDangerPants.

Eliminate the old trolls.

Israel can take care of that and keep Trump's hands clean.

We tried it with Afghanistan and Iraq. Didn't it make things worse? Should we try a third time? Is "fool me twice" not enough?

[FlashDangerpants]

Checkmate! Israel’s brilliant war against Iran
By Andrea Widburg
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... _iran.html

This sounds reasonable ... unlike FlashDangerPants.

Eliminate the old trolls.

Israel can take care of that and keep Trump's hands clean.

We tried it with Afghanistan and Iraq. Didn't it make things worse? Should we try a third time? Is "fool me twice" not enough?

This is different to those though, there's no nation building or boots on the ground, just Endless Death from Above until all the leadership are gone (CheckMate, Hurrah, Mission Accomplished).... and then everyone suffocates in the power vacuum.

[Gary Childress]

Checkmate! Israel’s brilliant war against Iran
By Andrea Widburg
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... _iran.html

This sounds reasonable ... unlike FlashDangerPants.

Eliminate the old trolls.

Israel can take care of that and keep Trump's hands clean.

We tried it with Afghanistan and Iraq. Didn't it make things worse? Should we try a third time? Is "fool me twice" not enough?

This is different to those though, there's no nation building or boots on the ground, just Endless Death from Above until all the leadership are gone (CheckMate, Hurrah, Mission Accomplished).... and then everyone suffocates in the power vacuum.

From the sounds of it, Israel isn't targeting civilians so much as the Iranian leadership. So it's "death from above" but mostly for their leaders, and it continues until they put in place leaders who aren't antagonistic toward the West. So I guess you're right, it's different than "boots on the ground". Not sure if it will work any better. \_('_')_/

[FlashDangerpants]

From the sounds of it, Israel isn't targeting civilians so much as the Iranian leadership. So it's "death from above" but mostly for their leaders, and it continues until they put in place leaders who aren't antagonistic toward the West. So I guess you're right, it's different than "boots on the ground". Not sure if it will work any better. \_('_')_/

Regime change driven by nothing but aerial bombardment won't work better, it probably won't work at all. The whole fiction only makes sense to Walker because he is always desperate to believe in Trump.

The most you can achieve by the methods Walker and his asinine friends discuss is causing a power struggle within Iran, but once that settles down, whoever is the victor will vigorously pursue a nuclear arms program because they realise that the previous leadership were wrong not to do so for the last 20 years - nobody would have dared bomb them this way if they had nukes.

If they even vaguely suspect Iran of working towards a nuke for real, then other regional players will pursue their own. As will any other nation who looks at what became of Iran and Ukraine in recent years and wonders if they could be next. The Saudis will get in on that, you may remember them as the guys who did 9/11 even though you invaded two other countries for that.

But if I am wrong and the bombing goes hard enough to actually make the regime fall entirely, that doesn't make anything better. Iran and Iraq are too closely linked for the former to fall without triggering a new civil war in the latter. The Iranian Kurds will instantly try to form an independent state which will bring Turkey into the fight. The result would be chaos, famine and another refugee crisis. The notion of a friendly new government just easing into power is completely absurd.

[Gary Childress]

From the sounds of it, Israel isn't targeting civilians so much as the Iranian leadership. So it's "death from above" but mostly for their leaders, and it continues until they put in place leaders who aren't antagonistic toward the West. So I guess you're right, it's different than "boots on the ground". Not sure if it will work any better. \_('_')_/

Regime change driven by nothing but aerial bombardment won't work better, it probably won't work at all. The whole fiction only makes sense to Walker because he is always desperate to believe in Trump.

The most you can achieve by the methods Walker and his asinine friends discuss is causing a power struggle within Iran, but once that settles down, whoever is the victor will vigorously pursue a nuclear arms program because they realise that the previous leadership were wrong not to do so for the last 20 years - nobody would have dared bomb them this way if they had nukes.

If they even vaguely suspect Iran of working towards a nuke for real, then other regional players will pursue their own. As will any other nation who looks at what became of Iran and Ukraine in recent years and wonders if they could be next. The Saudis will get in on that, you may remember them as the guys who did 9/11 even though you invaded two other countries for that.

But if I am wrong and the bombing goes hard enough to actually make the regime fall entirely, that doesn't make anything better. Iran and Iraq are too closely linked for the former to fall without triggering a new civil war in the latter. The Iranian Kurds will instantly try to form an independent state which will bring Turkey into the fight. The result would be chaos, famine and another refugee crisis. The notion of a friendly new government just easing into power is completely absurd.

What do you see as a reasonable way out of this shit show in the Middle East?

[Walker]

Checkmate! Israel’s brilliant war against Iran
By Andrea Widburg
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... _iran.html

This sounds reasonable ... unlike FlashDangerPants.

Eliminate the old trolls.

Israel can take care of that and keep Trump's hands clean.

We tried it with Afghanistan and Iraq. Didn't it make things worse? Should we try a third time? Is "fool me twice" not enough?

Were Afghanistan and Iraq close to weapons grade enrichment with delivery systems in place for The Bomb?

You forget the major point. Nuclear bomb.
What's worse than that?
I thought The Bomb was one of your big fears.
Eliminate the nuclear bomb from Iran.
Period.

The people of Persia want that oppressive government, gone.
Out with the old, in with the new.
Persia used to be a modern country.

Clear and well defined.
They can sort it out themselves, without The Bomb.

[Walker]

Well then, by all means.

Let Iran have a nuclear bomb.

You read it here, folks. FlashDangerPants wants Iran to blow up Israel, just as they promised.

(Idiot)

[Gary Childress]

Checkmate! Israel’s brilliant war against Iran
By Andrea Widburg
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... _iran.html

This sounds reasonable ... unlike FlashDangerPants.

Eliminate the old trolls.

Israel can take care of that and keep Trump's hands clean.

We tried it with Afghanistan and Iraq. Didn't it make things worse? Should we try a third time? Is "fool me twice" not enough?

Were Afghanistan and Iraq close to weapons grade enrichment with delivery systems in place for The Bomb?

You forget the major point. Nuclear bomb.
What's worse than that?
I thought The Bomb was one of your big fears.
Eliminate the nuclear bomb from Iran.
Period.

The people of Persia want that oppressive government, gone.
Out with the old, in with the new.
Persia used to be a modern country.

Clear and well defined.
They can sort it out themselves, without The Bomb.

Apparently, Iran hasn't been pursuing nukes, same as Iraq when we invaded. We can't go around bombing and invading other countries because they're catching up with us militarily, unless you want to piss off every people in the third world. How long do you think we can go around unilaterally playing global cop? Is that even ethical?

[FlashDangerpants]

What do you see as a reasonable way out of this shit show in the Middle East?

Betray Bibi. The truth is he's been trying to start a war with Iran for America to fight for the last 30 years, always claiming Iran is just about to develop the bomb. Netanyahu doesn't have the reach to maintain a high tempo air war against Iran for more than a few days, all his planes will be overdue for maintenance by the end of the week. There's no way for the US president to order Israel to end the air strikes, but they will end anyway due to logistics soon, or the tempo will collapse and it will look a bit silly.

So let Bibi punch himself out, then negotiate a treaty to put the constraints back in place that Obama negotiated. And then prepare to make some very large concession to Iran to purchase peace. In return for a non-proliferation agreement with inspections they will get a big roll back of sanctions targeting their oil industry, and we'll probably have to let them build their own medical isotope reactor if they haven't got one already.

The it's probably time Bibi faced the music for all that corruption he did.