"You don't need anyone to be happy." True or false?

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accelafine wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:17 am
Atla wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:12 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 9:47 am I don't know where you get the idea that women are 'happy by themselves'. They are as happy as men are.
Most women will proudly state it when asked. I see "happiness" alone as meaningless, empty.
Humans don't function well by themselves. Those people who say they do aren't really 'by themselves'. You can be with someone but not live with them 24/7.
It's not about functioning in the general sense, but this
Lacewing wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:57 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:32 pm I have the suspicion that women typically can feel complete on their own, and men typically can not.
That's interesting. It is true that in my own experience, I've known several women who can truly feel complete on their own, yet no men that can. That's not to say, of course, that there aren't men who can... it just doesn't seem typical, as you say.
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Atla wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:25 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:17 am
Atla wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:12 am
Most women will proudly state it when asked. I see "happiness" alone as meaningless, empty.
Humans don't function well by themselves. Those people who say they do aren't really 'by themselves'. You can be with someone but not live with them 24/7.
It's not about functioning in the general sense, but this
Lacewing wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:57 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:32 pm I have the suspicion that women typically can feel complete on their own, and men typically can not.
That's interesting. It is true that in my own experience, I've known several women who can truly feel complete on their own, yet no men that can. That's not to say, of course, that there aren't men who can... it just doesn't seem typical, as you say.
Better ask her then. Btw, she's not on her own :lol:
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accelafine wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:43 am
Atla wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:25 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:17 am

Humans don't function well by themselves. Those people who say they do aren't really 'by themselves'. You can be with someone but not live with them 24/7.
It's not about functioning in the general sense, but this
Lacewing wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:57 pm
That's interesting. It is true that in my own experience, I've known several women who can truly feel complete on their own, yet no men that can. That's not to say, of course, that there aren't men who can... it just doesn't seem typical, as you say.
Better ask her then. Btw, she's not on her own :lol:
On paper. But I think women who can feel fully/happy on their own, don't even know what a real relationship even is. Hence this topic.
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Atla wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:53 pm "Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

True or false?

But let's remove any other factor here. No co-dependency issues, no abandonment issues, no financial issues, no major personality flaws, no immaturity, no unresolved traumas, none of that. Let's just look at a really well-developed, mature person without any major issues, without any major problems.

(My opinion: definitely false.)

Edit: Of course a major part of what is required for "happiness" comes from within. And technically, we don't need anyone else to get through life.

But is that enough? Or do we need someone else to share the journey with, otherwise what's the point?
Your OP is rather ambiguous. By "You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."...are we to assume you are questioning as to whether one does not need a live in relationship partner to be happy?

My answer to that, per my own and many MALE friends circumstance is that no, we do not require a sexual relationship live-in partner to be happy.

Also, your insistence that women tend to be able to live on their own happily where men can't is nonsense. I've seen possibly more examples of happy single men, than women. One of my female friends always needs to hook-up with someone, never seems to work out for her. In saying that, she's happy when single also.

In fact, when I think back to women I've known through time they all seem to have required a partner, whereas the fellas are quite happy to live alone. From my observation, women run the risk unfortunately of actual loneliness - that is, loss of close female friends, likely due to my previous statement or possibly other reasons.

So getting back to the original question of TRUE or FALSE per: ""Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

I think so long as one that lives on their own has good friends that they can catch up with regularly, I'd go with TRUE - one (equally whether male or female) does not need a sexual live-in relationship partner to be happy.

However, if your ambiguous OP statement includes consideration of having NOBODY - no friends either, then i'd go with FALSE. Loneliness is the killer.
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accelafine wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:03 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:02 am Find out. Then you’ll know.
If you mean that self-serving lust you felt for hairyballs then I suppose that's one particular scenario.

'Love' doesn't have 'conditions' by defintion. It's just something that 'is'. The only people who harp on about 'unconditional love' are lust-struck idiots.
And for your information. I was the one who was willing to love Harbal unconditionally because I knew there was more goodness in him than there was darkness. Yes sometimes he irritated the hell out of me, but I instinctively knew he had a heart of gold that was going to be worth clinging on for. It’s going to take great strength and effort to make something worth keeping. The treasure is already within us, we just have to learn how to activate it in unison.

Sadly, Harbal wasn’t so willing to love me unconditionally. He only wanted my “good natured side”

And that’s why I took it upon myself to free the man by force quitting the relationship.

Successful relationships come only when BOTH people commit and consent to unconditionally loving the other.
If it’s just one person committing to it, then the relationship is doomed from the get go.

I already know this because I’m a very smart woman. Some men are quite frightened of smart women. Sad really because they just miss out on what can potentially be a very good time, but they often too much allow their inner whimp to guide them, and mostly are too lazy to work on themselves by integrating both their anima and animus natural nature in a fashion whereby they become fully aligned in perfect rhythm and harmony with both themselves and others.


Most people are just not willing to put in the work, it’s too much effort. And it’s their loss at the end of the day.

The magic awaits us all, for those who are willing to explore it.

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In Jungian psychology, "anima" and "animus" refer to archetypal representations of the unconscious feminine and masculine aspects, respectively, within each individual. The anima is the feminine archetype in a man's psyche, and the animus is the masculine archetype in a woman's psyche. These archetypes represent the opposite gender's qualities and are believed to reside in the unconscious mind, influencing conscious behavior and relationships.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Anima:
Represents a man's unconscious feminine side, including aspects like intuition, empathy, and emotional receptivity.
Animus:
Represents a woman's unconscious masculine side, including aspects like logic, reason, and assertiveness.
Jung believed these archetypes are part of the collective unconscious, a shared, inherited mental space across humanity. They are not simply gender stereotypes, but rather fundamental aspects of the psyche that influence relationships, emotions, and decision-making.
Integrating these archetypes into conscious awareness is seen as a crucial step in the process of individuation, a journey toward psychological wholeness in Jungian psychology.
For example, a man might express his anima through his intuition or his sensitivity to emotional situations, while a woman might express her animus through her assertiveness or her logical thinking.
In essence, anima and animus are about recognizing and integrating the opposite gender's qualities within oneself, leading to a more balanced and self-aware personality.
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FFS. Back to Harbal - get over HIM!!! :roll:
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:52 am
Atla wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:53 pm "Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

True or false?

But let's remove any other factor here. No co-dependency issues, no abandonment issues, no financial issues, no major personality flaws, no immaturity, no unresolved traumas, none of that. Let's just look at a really well-developed, mature person without any major issues, without any major problems.

(My opinion: definitely false.)

Edit: Of course a major part of what is required for "happiness" comes from within. And technically, we don't need anyone else to get through life.

But is that enough? Or do we need someone else to share the journey with, otherwise what's the point?
Your OP is rather ambiguous. By "You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."...are we to assume you are questioning as to whether one does not need a live in relationship partner to be happy?

My answer to that, per my own and many MALE friends circumstance is that no, we do not require a sexual relationship live-in partner to be happy.

Also, your insistence that women tend to be able to live on their own happily where men can't is nonsense. I've seen possibly more examples of happy single men, than women. One of my female friends always needs to hook-up with someone, never seems to work out for her. In saying that, she's happy when single also.

In fact, when I think back to women I've known through time they all seem to have required a partner, whereas the fellas are quite happy to live alone. From my observation, women run the risk unfortunately of actual loneliness - that is, loss of close female friends, likely due to my previous statement or possibly other reasons.

So getting back to the original question of TRUE or FALSE per: ""Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

I think so long as one that lives on their own has good friends that they can catch up with regularly, I'd go with TRUE - one (equally whether male or female) does not need a sexual live-in relationship partner to be happy.

However, if your ambiguous OP statement includes consideration of having NOBODY - no friends either, then i'd go with FALSE. Loneliness is the killer.
I never thought I would say this but 'well said' :D
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accelafine wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:57 am
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:52 am
Atla wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:53 pm "Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

True or false?

But let's remove any other factor here. No co-dependency issues, no abandonment issues, no financial issues, no major personality flaws, no immaturity, no unresolved traumas, none of that. Let's just look at a really well-developed, mature person without any major issues, without any major problems.

(My opinion: definitely false.)

Edit: Of course a major part of what is required for "happiness" comes from within. And technically, we don't need anyone else to get through life.

But is that enough? Or do we need someone else to share the journey with, otherwise what's the point?
Your OP is rather ambiguous. By "You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."...are we to assume you are questioning as to whether one does not need a live in relationship partner to be happy?

My answer to that, per my own and many MALE friends circumstance is that no, we do not require a sexual relationship live-in partner to be happy.

Also, your insistence that women tend to be able to live on their own happily where men can't is nonsense. I've seen possibly more examples of happy single men, than women. One of my female friends always needs to hook-up with someone, never seems to work out for her. In saying that, she's happy when single also.

In fact, when I think back to women I've known through time they all seem to have required a partner, whereas the fellas are quite happy to live alone. From my observation, women run the risk unfortunately of actual loneliness - that is, loss of close female friends, likely due to my previous statement or possibly other reasons.

So getting back to the original question of TRUE or FALSE per: ""Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

I think so long as one that lives on their own has good friends that they can catch up with regularly, I'd go with TRUE - one (equally whether male or female) does not need a sexual live-in relationship partner to be happy.

However, if your ambiguous OP statement includes consideration of having NOBODY - no friends either, then i'd go with FALSE. Loneliness is the killer.
I never thought I would say this but 'well said' :D
Yes, and sometimes you hit the mark too. :lol:

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It's loneliness that kills, not 'being alone'. Grief is loneliness. Imagine being grief stricken and having no one else around you. No one to talk to. That's when the heart just gives out.
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:54 am FFS. Back to Harbal - get over HIM!!! :roll:
Just a typical glib response. Get over yourself wanker.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:05 am
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:54 am FFS. Back to Harbal - get over HIM!!! :roll:
Just a typical glib response. Get over yourself wanker.
Get some friends. :mrgreen:
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accelafine wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:01 am It's loneliness that kills, not 'being alone'. Grief is loneliness. Imagine being grief stricken and having no one else around you. No one to talk to. That's when the heart just gives out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to90047YXac
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:52 am
Atla wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:53 pm "Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

True or false?

But let's remove any other factor here. No co-dependency issues, no abandonment issues, no financial issues, no major personality flaws, no immaturity, no unresolved traumas, none of that. Let's just look at a really well-developed, mature person without any major issues, without any major problems.

(My opinion: definitely false.)

Edit: Of course a major part of what is required for "happiness" comes from within. And technically, we don't need anyone else to get through life.

But is that enough? Or do we need someone else to share the journey with, otherwise what's the point?
Your OP is rather ambiguous. By "You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."...are we to assume you are questioning as to whether one does not need a live in relationship partner to be happy?

My answer to that, per my own and many MALE friends circumstance is that no, we do not require a sexual relationship live-in partner to be happy.

Also, your insistence that women tend to be able to live on their own happily where men can't is nonsense. I've seen possibly more examples of happy single men, than women. One of my female friends always needs to hook-up with someone, never seems to work out for her. In saying that, she's happy when single also.

In fact, when I think back to women I've known through time they all seem to have required a partner, whereas the fellas are quite happy to live alone. From my observation, women run the risk unfortunately of actual loneliness - that is, loss of close female friends, likely due to my previous statement or possibly other reasons.

So getting back to the original question of TRUE or FALSE per: ""Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

I think so long as one that lives on their own has good friends that they can catch up with regularly, I'd go with TRUE - one (equally whether male or female) does not need a sexual live-in relationship partner to be happy.

However, if your ambiguous OP statement includes consideration of having NOBODY - no friends either, then i'd go with FALSE. Loneliness is the killer.
So maybe people in general, both sexes, don't require true companionship with their sexual live-in relationship partner? That could very well be the case, it's just unimaginable to me. How can people be content with so little?
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attofishpi wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:06 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:05 am
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:54 am FFS. Back to Harbal - get over HIM!!! :roll:
Just a typical glib response. Get over yourself wanker.
Get some friends. :mrgreen:
When it suits me, I’ll do just that, just like I will get whatever the fuck I want whenever I want, as when it suits me. Glibite.

I’m quite the catch. I can afford to be choosy.

And don’t ever mention Harbal ever again on this forum ok. Just get over him yourself ok. Fucking hypocrite.
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Atla wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:09 am
attofishpi wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:52 am
Atla wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:53 pm "Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

True or false?

But let's remove any other factor here. No co-dependency issues, no abandonment issues, no financial issues, no major personality flaws, no immaturity, no unresolved traumas, none of that. Let's just look at a really well-developed, mature person without any major issues, without any major problems.

(My opinion: definitely false.)

Edit: Of course a major part of what is required for "happiness" comes from within. And technically, we don't need anyone else to get through life.

But is that enough? Or do we need someone else to share the journey with, otherwise what's the point?
Your OP is rather ambiguous. By "You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."...are we to assume you are questioning as to whether one does not need a live in relationship partner to be happy?

My answer to that, per my own and many MALE friends circumstance is that no, we do not require a sexual relationship live-in partner to be happy.

Also, your insistence that women tend to be able to live on their own happily where men can't is nonsense. I've seen possibly more examples of happy single men, than women. One of my female friends always needs to hook-up with someone, never seems to work out for her. In saying that, she's happy when single also.

In fact, when I think back to women I've known through time they all seem to have required a partner, whereas the fellas are quite happy to live alone. From my observation, women run the risk unfortunately of actual loneliness - that is, loss of close female friends, likely due to my previous statement or possibly other reasons.

So getting back to the original question of TRUE or FALSE per: ""Darling, always remember. Your happiness doesn't come from other people. Your happiness comes from you. It is your choice to be happy. You don't need anyone to be happy with your life."

I think so long as one that lives on their own has good friends that they can catch up with regularly, I'd go with TRUE - one (equally whether male or female) does not need a sexual live-in relationship partner to be happy.

However, if your ambiguous OP statement includes consideration of having NOBODY - no friends either, then i'd go with FALSE. Loneliness is the killer.
So maybe people in general, both sexes, don't require true companionship with their sexual live-in relationship partner? That could very well be the case, it's just unimaginable to me. How can people be content with so little?
What a sheltered little life you must have led. Do you really think that's all there is when it comes to human contact?
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