'Nazi' salute

[Age]

Jesus fucking christ. Is there EVER a time that it isn't 'online'?

WHO is 'this one' REFERRING TO, here, EXACTLY?

[Gary Childress]

It'll be interesting to see who gives up first and stops posting responses to the other, Age or accelafine. I'm admittedly betting on accelafine.

Actually I've never initiated contact with it. EVER. Only an insane person would, arsehole.

I apologize for being an ass. My bad.

[FlashDangerpants]

Musk and Trump aren't friends, or allies they are competitors and Musk wants to make sure Vance replaces Trump at the most profitable time rather than when Trump dies. Musk stole Trump's limelight by doing a very blatant nazi salute at Trump's big party, and the point of it was just to steal all the headlines, and it worked. Now Trump wants to steal them back so he's doing as much mad shit as he possibly can all day every day.

Looks like Musk is making his move already after running out of juice much sooner than he expected.

Elon Musk goes on a warpath against Trump and the GOP

Elon Musk just launched a war against the GOP. Now the party’s hopes of holding onto power are at stake.

Musk has gone from helping Republicans take total control of Washington — spending nearly $300 million to become the single biggest known donor last year — to attacking the highest-ranking leaders of the party and daring the rank and file to cross him.

“Trump has 3.5 years left as President, but I will be around for 40+ years,” Musk said on X.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/0 ... s-00391246

[Atla]

The Hyperborean Apollo must be pretty confused seeing that his heroes are turning on each other.

[attofishpi]

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[FlashDangerpants]

The Hyperborean Apollo must be pretty confused seeing that his heroes are turning on each other.

Well now that the accusations of trump's kiddy fiddling are finally coming from somebody he trusts, perhaps it's time for our legendary master of the email lessons to part ways with the orange spunk trumpet.

[accelafine]

The Hyperborean Apollo must be pretty confused seeing that his heroes are turning on each other.

Well now that the accusations of trump's kiddy fiddling are finally coming from somebody he trusts, perhaps it's time for our legendary master of the email lessons to part ways with the orange spunk trumpet.

There are tons of photos of Trump with Epstein. Pretty much every super rich man on the planet is on 'the list'. Are you seriously suggesting that Musk's 'revelation' is a revelation? It's important not to use the word 'paedophile' flippantly by misusing and diluting it, or people might assume that the person misusing it has a hidden agenda. I understand that in the UK these days paedophiles rarely get prison time because prison cells need to be kept available for far worse crimes like making 'mean tweets'. People are weirdly selectively self-righteous these days.

[FlashDangerpants]

People are weirdly selectively self-righteous these days.

If you ever achieved self-awareness you might one day become a threat.

[accelafine]

A 'threat' ? What is the scarecrow on about?

[Alexis Jacobi]

The Hyperborean Apollo must be pretty confused seeing that his heroes are turning on each other.

I was deep in 4th level meditation when, through advanced psychic awareness, the mention of my Title snapped me back to Earth-consciousness …

Blessings to you, my bickering, bitchy children who never seem to get anywhere.

Allow me to clarify: If I support anything I support the concept of a native movement such as Steve Bannon has outlined. I have no admiration, necessarily, for the man Donald Trump and I agreed with Bannon who referred to him as an “armor-piercing shell”.

Hyper-liberalism — liberal license taken to corrupting extremes — is (if anything) what I consider to be “the enemy”. My politics therefore are quite conservative but I am not opposed to many Left/Progressive tenets: protection of families, family values, strong controls against illegal immigration (because it lowers wages and weakens families). I “believe in” a reining in of many cultural and social excesses but I am realistic enough to know this will not likely come about because corruption once it takes begins tends to continue until more drastic action becomes necessary.

Some “summary” of the general situation in the US is necessary: the divisions and factionalism that has beset the country will not likely be resolved. The conflicts are too wide.

I have a strong feeling that because of mis-management of an opportunity (and erraticism) Trump et al will squander possibilities and achieve less than it might have.

I tend to respect Bannon who is quite influential and (generally) makes decent sense. I found this interview worthwhile.

[Atla]

I was deep in 4th level meditation when, through advanced psychic awareness, the mention of my Title snapped me back to Earth-consciousness …

Nah, I think they just have internet access in the 4th level meditation.

[Atla]

Being an "armor-piercing shell" isn't enough, first you also have to learn to aim at the opponent, not your own side. I think.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Being an "armor-piercing shell" isn't enough, first you also have to learn to aim at the opponent, not your own side. I think.

You desire to see me -- my position -- as that of a true-believer partisan, however this is not the case. I think the recent blow-up is ridiculous and stupid. Elon Musk should never have been granted such influence. And Donald Trump, like an idiot, allowed it. Everyone knows Donald Trump's defects. And they are tragic flaws.

[Atla]

Being an "armor-piercing shell" isn't enough, first you also have to learn to aim at the opponent, not your own side. I think.

You desire to see me -- my position -- as that of a true-believer partisan, however this is not the case. I think the recent blow-up is ridiculous and stupid. Elon Musk should never have been granted such influence. And Donald Trump, like an idiot, allowed it. Everyone knows Donald Trump's defects. And they are tragic flaws.

Noooo don't just stop there, what are Trump's redeeming qualities?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Trump is a loose cannon, no? It is hard (for me anyway) to say if his overall influence on American politics will be beneficial or destructive.

I might say that I admire his effort to show boldness in regard to the illegal immigration issue. See this NYT’s report:

A third day of protests against immigration raids was expected to take place in the Los Angeles area on Sunday, hours after President Trump took the extraordinary action of ordering at least 2,000 National Guard members to assist immigration agents clashing with demonstrators.

The announcement by Mr. Trump — who said that any protest or act of violence that impeded officials would be considered a “form of rebellion” — was an escalation that put Los Angeles squarely at the center of tensions over his administration’s immigration crackdown and made rare use of federal powers to bypass the authority of California’s governor, Gavin Newsom.

Mr. Trump issued the order on Saturday as law enforcement officers faced off with hundreds of protesters for a second consecutive day in the Los Angeles area, in some cases using rubber bullets and flash-bang grenades. Mr. Newsom described Mr. Trump’s order as “purposefully inflammatory,” saying that the federal government was mobilizing the National Guard “not because there is a shortage of law enforcement, but because they want a spectacle.”

Bilal A. “Bill” Essayli, the Trump administration’s top law enforcement official in Southern California, said in an interview on Saturday night that National Guard troops would arrive in Los Angeles County within 24 hours. At least 20 people were arrested on Saturday, mostly in the largely Latino and working-class suburb of Paramount, in addition to the more than 100 people arrested at the protests on Friday, Mr. Essayli said.

As of early Sunday morning, there were no signs of any National Guard troops on the streets as several demonstrations appeared to be winding down. Mr. Trump praised the National Guard for their work in Los Angeles, but Mayor Karen Bass reminded residents that the troops had not arrived.

Protests against immigration raids were scheduled to continue on Sunday, with one event at City Hall set for 2 p.m. local time.

Protests had broken out in the L.A. area on Friday and Saturday as federal agents mounted raids on workplaces in search of undocumented immigrants. The Los Angeles Police Department detained a number of protesters near the Metropolitan Detention Center in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday, but said demonstrations in the city were peaceful. Some of the protests that broke out in other areas, including Compton and Paramount, south of downtown Los Angeles, were more confrontational.

Demonstrators near a freeway entrance threw fireworks and rocks at police officers, who responded with volleys of rubber projectiles. Some took over an intersection after setting a car ablaze, while others hurled glass bottles filled with a substance that smelled like gasoline at a police line, as fires burned in the street.

Here’s what else to know:

Workplace raids: The recent raids appeared to be part of a new phase of the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown, in which officials say they will increasingly focus on workplaces.

Federal powers: Mr. Trump’s order is the first time since 1965 that a president has activated a state’s National Guard force without a request from that state’s governor, according to Elizabeth Goitein, senior director of the Liberty and National Security Program at the Brennan Center for Justice, an independent law and policy organization.

Trading blame: Some of California’s Democratic lawmakers blasted Mr. Trump’s decision to send in the National Guard as an inappropriate use of power, while Republicans criticized the state’s political leadership over their handling of the protests.

Latino communities: Some of the most active protests against immigration raids took place in Paramount, a small city some 25 miles southeast of the Hollywood sign that has for decades attracted Latino immigrants.