"Sin: The Path to Excellence"

[promethean75]

"This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness."

If one is sharp enough not to be deceived by this idea and recognizes what state the world is in when he enters it (without asking), he has the unequivocal right to 'sin'... which means ignoring morality altogether.

The VERY first thing an intelligent soul would say upon entering this world is, "i am not in league with whatever created this world and if somewhere there are rules and commands made by this creator that i might discover i will most certainly ignore them."

That's just a no-brainer.

[attofishpi]

"This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness."

If one is sharp enough not to be deceived by this idea and recognizes what state the world is in when he enters it (without asking), he has the unequivocal right to 'sin'... which means ignoring morality altogether.

The VERY first thing an intelligent soul would say upon entering this world is, "i am not in league with whatever created this world and if somewhere there are rules and commands made by this creator that i might discover i will most certainly ignore them."

That's just a no-brainer.

Yes, let's rape and murder little children.

[promethean75]

Wait a minute... you need a god to tell you it's not always a great idea to rape and murder childrens? You couldn't figure that out on your own?

[attofishpi]

Wait a minute... you need a god to tell you it's not always a great idea to rape and murder childrens? You couldn't figure that out on your own?

It's not that dickhead. I am unequivocally pointing out your immoral stance here:-

If one is sharp enough not to be deceived by this idea and recognizes what state the world is in when he enters it (without asking), he has the unequivocal right to 'sin'... which means ignoring morality altogether.

[promethean75]

Oh, i see the confusion. What i should have said is, "If i do something called 'moral', it isn't because some god told me to."

Divine command theory is a joke, mate. According to this theory, the slaughter of the Amalekites was a good thing because god commanded it.

[attofishpi]

Oh, i see the confusion. What i should have said is, "If i do something called 'moral', it isn't because some god told me to."

Divine command theory is a joke, mate. According to this theory, the slaughter of the Amalekites was a good thing because god commanded it.

Well then.

Provide scriptural evidence of GOD commanding that. In any case, there is great reasoning for this **** to imply **** tree stuff

[promethean75]

1 Samuel 15? Or wait a minute... I think it would be better in this case to say the voice Saul heard commanding him was not the voice of god. Prolly be better if we only believe the good stuff these guys hear is the voice of god, not the bad stuff. Here it is absolutely critical to cherry pick.

[Greatest I am]

Falling short of an ideal is an ideal so ideas are never really fallen from but merely create referential contexts for eachother so to exist.

Sin is self defeating as a true path thus hold little truth other than internal and external fragmentation and oblivion.

But let's say sin is the correct path...than by default it is a sin not to sin and you end in contradiction.

No.

You end with a loser who is too low in fitness ranking to compete.

His line will die out.

And that would be the deepest sin and yet for all your praise of sin I see you fearing this one....hypocrite.

I do not fear where I have not shown fitness. That would be stupid.

I like to know my strengths and weaknesses.

If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to write an argument and not just unsupported statements and name calling.

[Greatest I am]

"This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness."

If one is sharp enough not to be deceived by this idea and recognizes what state the world is in when he enters it (without asking), he has the unequivocal right to 'sin'... which means ignoring morality altogether.

The VERY first thing an intelligent soul would say upon entering this world is, "i am not in league with whatever created this world and if somewhere there are rules and commands made by this creator that i might discover i will most certainly ignore them."

That's just a no-brainer.

On the state of the world we all find.

It is demonstrably the best reality we can be born in.

Reality cannot help being what it is and it could not be better or different.

I call it evolving perfection.

The ancients knew that we lived in the best of all possible worlds.

Do you?

[promethean75]

Nah, Leibniz and Anselm were confused anthropomorphizers.

[Greatest I am]

Quite a way for you to not bother thinking.

[Eodnhoj7]

No.

You end with a loser who is too low in fitness ranking to compete.

His line will die out.

And that would be the deepest sin and yet for all your praise of sin I see you fearing this one....hypocrite.

I do not fear where I have not shown fitness. That would be stupid.

I like to know my strengths and weaknesses.

If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to write an argument and not just unsupported statements and name calling.

Oh no I provided the argument, but I will reword it for you:

If sin is the path to Excellence, and to not walk down this path is a sin against the self, then it is a sin not to sin but also a sin to sin and from this is may be implied that all is sin and sin loses its meaning as it is foundationally contradiction by nature.

[Greatest I am]

And that would be the deepest sin and yet for all your praise of sin I see you fearing this one....hypocrite.

I do not fear where I have not shown fitness. That would be stupid.

I like to know my strengths and weaknesses.

If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to write an argument and not just unsupported statements and name calling.

Oh no I provided the argument, but I will reword it for you:

If sin is the path to Excellence, and to not walk down this path is a sin against the self, then it is a sin not to sin but also a sin to sin and from this is may be implied that all is sin and sin loses its meaning as it is foundationally contradiction by nature.

That is why I defined it as I did. A positive to us and not a negative.

We all work towards our best end and do not want less.

[Eodnhoj7]

I do not fear where I have not shown fitness. That would be stupid.

I like to know my strengths and weaknesses.

If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to write an argument and not just unsupported statements and name calling.

Oh no I provided the argument, but I will reword it for you:

If sin is the path to Excellence, and to not walk down this path is a sin against the self, then it is a sin not to sin but also a sin to sin and from this is may be implied that all is sin and sin loses its meaning as it is foundationally contradiction by nature.

That is why I defined it as I did. A positive to us and not a negative.

We all work towards our best end and do not want less.

But it would be a deeper sin not to sin and according to you sin is good.

[Greatest I am]

Oh no I provided the argument, but I will reword it for you:

If sin is the path to Excellence, and to not walk down this path is a sin against the self, then it is a sin not to sin but also a sin to sin and from this is may be implied that all is sin and sin loses its meaning as it is foundationally contradiction by nature.

That is why I defined it as I did. A positive to us and not a negative.

We all work towards our best end and do not want less.

But it would be a deeper sin not to sin and according to you sin is good.

Correct.

To not attempt to hit ideal marks or bulls eyes, is definitely not the way to go.

Sin is necessary, but given they produce losers who will think evil has come their way, some will see the evil part and not the culling of losers to get to the best part.

Christians sing of Adam's sin being a happy fault and necessary to God's plan, while the Jews see Original Virtue for man coming out of Eden.

Seems that I am in the intelligent majority position.