The Brainworm Kennedy is fucking it up again

[FlashDangerpants]

I didn't really think RFK Jr would survive as HHS Sec this long, so it didn't seem worth bothering to grant him his own thread just to commemorate the ways in which this one spectacularly mad idiot can fuck everything up for millions of people. But here we are, I stand corrected, so let us diligently record this flaming clown car full of turds as it launches itself over the cliff.

Today's Make America Healthy Again epic SNAFU comes in the form of yet another abuse of AI by an administration that is so bewitched by the stuff that nobody bothers to look for hallucinated bullshit in its output. Let this be a warning to those who are becoming too reliant on AI themselves within this very community...

RFK Jr.’s MAHA Report Is ‘Rife With Errors’ — Including at Least Seven Fake Sources
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/rfk-j ... e-sources/

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s “Make America Healthy Again” report was found to have cited at least seven sources that don’t actually exist.

The “MAHA Report” was published earlier this week from the newly-established Make America Healthy Again Commission. In it, more than 500 sources were used to detail supposed issues within the U.S.’s health system.

According to a Thursday piece from NOTUS, however, the MAHA Report cited multiple studies that don’t appear to be real.

For one example:
Epidemiologist Katherine Keyes is listed in the MAHA report as the first author of a study on anxiety in adolescents. When NOTUS reached out to her this week, she was surprised to hear of the citation. She does study mental health and substance use, she said. But she didn’t write the paper listed.

“The paper cited is not a real paper that I or my colleagues were involved with,” Keyes told NOTUS via email. “We’ve certainly done research on this topic, but did not publish a paper in JAMA Pediatrics on this topic with that co-author group, or with that title.”

It’s not clear that anyone wrote the study cited in the MAHA report. The citation refers to a study titled, “Changes in mental health and substance abuse among US adolescents during the COVID-19 pandemic,” along with a nonfunctional link to the study’s digital object identifier. While the citation claims that the study appeared in the 12th issue of the 176th edition of the journal JAMA Pediatrics, that issue didn’t include a study with that title.

Who would have thought that the people who told you that schools have kitty litter trays for children who self-identify as cats (a story believed by Immanuel Can) and that Italian Satellites changed the votes in the 2020 election (a story believed by Walker) would continue to blatantly bullshit when they returned to power?

[Lacewing]

Who would have thought that the people who told you that schools have kitty litter trays for children who self-identify as cats (a story believed by Immanuel Can) and that Italian Satellites changed the votes in the 2020 election (a story believed by Walker) would continue to blatantly bullshit when they returned to power?

I cannot wrap my head around the magnitude of rampant fevered brainwormism that is percolating up through so many human beings who seem utterly dependent on obvious distortions and absolute destruction. Perhaps that's the low and lazy bar they need to imagine and buy into in order to feel relevant and/or better about themselves?

[Gary Childress]

Who would have thought that the people who told you that schools have kitty litter trays for children who self-identify as cats (a story believed by Immanuel Can) and that Italian Satellites changed the votes in the 2020 election (a story believed by Walker) would continue to blatantly bullshit when they returned to power?

I cannot wrap my head around the magnitude of rampant fevered brainwormism that is percolating up through so many human beings who seem utterly dependent on obvious distortions and absolute destruction. Perhaps that's the low and lazy bar they need to imagine and buy into in order to feel relevant and/or better about themselves?

Well said, Lace.

[FlashDangerpants]

Who would have thought that the people who told you that schools have kitty litter trays for children who self-identify as cats (a story believed by Immanuel Can) and that Italian Satellites changed the votes in the 2020 election (a story believed by Walker) would continue to blatantly bullshit when they returned to power?

I cannot wrap my head around the magnitude of rampant fevered brainwormism that is percolating up through so many human beings who seem utterly dependent on obvious distortions and absolute destruction. Perhaps that's the low and lazy bar they need to imagine and buy into in order to feel relevant and/or better about themselves?

Honestly I am stumped. I see people who I freely admit always thought were dim, just descend further and further into the insanity with no self-awareness at all. I keep expecting them to see some new horror and come to a realisation that they have been hoodwinked by a set of con artists, but instead they seem to double down, like the scam victims who keep sending more money because that Nigerian prince just needs to pay one more bribe to unlock all those millions he plans to share with them.

I genuinely thought Trump was toast when he did the impression of the impression of the disabled journalist, but no, he just pretended it wasn't an impression and they knowingly went along with the lie. Nevertheless, surely once he was caught on tape bragging about grabbing strangers by the undercarriage and committing sexual assaults, that had to be the end of him right? Nope, they just decided it was locker room talk and all the family values Christians just went with another lie. So then he felt slighted that his inauguration rally was smaller than the black guy's one had been, and he just forced a bunch of people to go on TV and lie about a meaningless crowd size, and none of them thought that was a worrying symptom of a problematic personality issue...

... and now, years later, nobody even notices when trump makes up extravagantly stupid shit any more. He decides to draw his own hurricane projection over that of the weather service, it just gets accepted. He claimed to have invented the word "equalize" the other day, how fucking stupid is that? If Biden had made up something like that it would be news about the mental decline of an old man who shouldn't be in his job any longer. Meanwhile, Trump gets nods of agreement when he demands credit for the word "groceries" making a comeback.

He has always shamelessly lied about stupid shit that he doesn't need to make up. But I am the one who should realise his error, I keep thinking that one day surely all the fawning simps who go along with it will wake the fuck up. But they never will.

[Gary Childress]

I don't think there is anything Trump can do to alienate many of his supporters. Whatever it is they are expecting from him, they would be fine to see Western Civilization collapse in the process of achieving it. I believe Trump has a lot of support from Evangelicals. Maybe they're fixated on the "end times" thing. Jesus is coming back.

George Bush Jr. had a lot of their support also. Probably many of the same people who voted for Bush have picked up the banner to continue under Trump whatever it is they are hoping to achieve.

[accelafine]

The more insane he looks the better it is for the rest of the world. His anti-fluoride stance pisses me off more than any other. I detest those wankers.

[Lacewing]

Honestly I am stumped. I see people who I freely admit always thought were dim, just descend further and further into the insanity with no self-awareness at all. I keep expecting them to see some new horror and come to a realisation that they have been hoodwinked by a set of con artists, but instead they seem to double down...

/... I keep thinking that one day surely all the fawning simps who go along with it will wake the fuck up. But they never will.

This is what suggests to me that it's all about protecting/perpetuating something they've tied their identity to. They would rather die than admit they have been wrong and stupid... for that would be a fate worse than death. The fact that they have to scrounge around in a gutter of lies and absurdity to imagine themselves being relevant somehow, shows how desperate they are... and how willing they are to cling to their density.

So along comes a delusional demagogue in his underwear, and they're ready to sign up for his grand illusion. It doesn't even matter to many Christians that Jesus would be furious over such horrific acts and agendas. These people are clearly making up 'God' as they go, so they can believe whatever they want... and, as usual, ignore whatever they want, to serve themselves.

I'm pretty disgusted with all of it... and can't watch the sideshow. It's just too fucking stupid.

People in my community actually don't even care who voted for who... we're living in the moment and being good to each other. That goes a long way in reminding us of what connects us. It's the Brainwormians who feed off of Trump's spew that are a different sort of creature... and there's really no reason in listening to them or trying to connect. They're too infected to see or realize anything beyond the spew that they're addicted to.

On a lighter note...

Have a nice day, everyone!

[accelafine]

But can any of the Trump haters actually say which of his policies they hate so much? All I hear is a lot of waffle about how 'evil' he is. Can't be that hard

[ThinkOfOne]

Who would have thought that the people who told you that schools have kitty litter trays for children who self-identify as cats (a story believed by Immanuel Can) and that Italian Satellites changed the votes in the 2020 election (a story believed by Walker) would continue to blatantly bullshit when they returned to power?

I cannot wrap my head around the magnitude of rampant fevered brainwormism that is percolating up through so many human beings who seem utterly dependent on obvious distortions and absolute destruction. Perhaps that's the low and lazy bar they need to imagine and buy into in order to feel relevant and/or better about themselves?

Honestly I am stumped. I see people who I freely admit always thought were dim, just descend further and further into the insanity with no self-awareness at all. I keep expecting them to see some new horror and come to a realisation that they have been hoodwinked by a set of con artists, but instead they seem to double down, like the scam victims who keep sending more money because that Nigerian prince just needs to pay one more bribe to unlock all those millions he plans to share with them.

I genuinely thought Trump was toast when he did the impression of the impression of the disabled journalist, but no, he just pretended it wasn't an impression and they knowingly went along with the lie. Nevertheless, surely once he was caught on tape bragging about grabbing strangers by the undercarriage and committing sexual assaults, that had to be the end of him right? Nope, they just decided it was locker room talk and all the family values Christians just went with another lie. So then he felt slighted that his inauguration rally was smaller than the black guy's one had been, and he just forced a bunch of people to go on TV and lie about a meaningless crowd size, and none of them thought that was a worrying symptom of a problematic personality issue...

... and now, years later, nobody even notices when trump makes up extravagantly stupid shit any more. He decides to draw his own hurricane projection over that of the weather service, it just gets accepted. He claimed to have invented the word "equalize" the other day, how fucking stupid is that? If Biden had made up something like that it would be news about the mental decline of an old man who shouldn't be in his job any longer. Meanwhile, Trump gets nods of agreement when he demands credit for the word "groceries" making a comeback.

He has always shamelessly lied about stupid shit that he doesn't need to make up. But I am the one who should realise his error, I keep thinking that one day surely all the fawning simps who go along with it will wake the fuck up. But they never will.

For the most part, people like people like themselves.

From what I gather, much of his support comes from Evangelical Christians. Perhaps the following which I posted in another thread will shed some light on what you've been observing:

From what gather the only denominations that take the Bible so literally are Fundamentalist/Evangelical Christians. Most others are sensible enough to take stories like you mentioned as allegory. From what I gather, IC is one such Christian. They often take words and redefine them in an attempt to get them to fit their worldview. In other words, they square-peg them. "See, it does fit". Other words that immediately come to mind are "righteousness", "repentance", "keep", "love" - the list goes on and on. What's more they square-peg things in lots of other ways: interpreting Bible verses/passages, the political views they hold and on and on. It's a dishonest worldview for dishonest people. They live in a morass of double standards and hypocrisy. A veritable factory for "white-washed tombs", if not "sheep in wolves clothing".

Fairly recently I was talking to a Buddhist who was telling me that he had started going to a Christian church which surprise me. So I asked him if he was aware of core beliefs such as: Jesus paid for their sins; no one can make themselves righteous; for all intents and purposes, God grants them forgiveness for the asking; their sins are not their fault - it is because of the fallen nature of man. HIs response? "Sounds like the makings for psychopaths". Which it is. Not that all or even many necessarily become psychopaths, but the makings are there all the same. I know one such individual personally. That said, this does beget a strong tendency toward extreme narcissism, selfishness/self-centeredness, dishonesty, hypocrisy, etc. When it comes down to it, they believe things are true because they believe them. I suspect that this is why so many of them are prone to demagoguery, racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, believing in conspiracy theories, etc.

[accelafine]

I think the hatred comes from the fact that Trump doesn't behave 'like a politician' and this confuses and enrages mental defectives like FDP no end. Ordinary Americans apparently find it refreshing.

[Lacewing]

But can any of the Trump haters actually say which of his policies they hate so much? All I hear is a lot of waffle about how 'evil' he is. Can't be that hard

Do you really think this hasn't been done extensively? Whatever 'waffle' you claim you're hearing sounds more like a tactic of your oppositional conversational style. Not that hard.

[accelafine]

But can any of the Trump haters actually say which of his policies they hate so much? All I hear is a lot of waffle about how 'evil' he is. Can't be that hard

Do you really think this hasn't been done extensively? Whatever 'waffle' you claim you're hearing sounds more like a tactic of your oppositional conversational style. Not that hard.

So which policies then? I've seen a lot of complaining about him in a personal way, but nothing that's complaining about specific policies.

[Lacewing]

But can any of the Trump haters actually say which of his policies they hate so much? All I hear is a lot of waffle about how 'evil' he is. Can't be that hard

Do you really think this hasn't been done extensively? Whatever 'waffle' you claim you're hearing sounds more like a tactic of your oppositional conversational style. Not that hard.

So which policies then? I've seen a lot of complaining about him in a personal way, but nothing that's complaining about specific policies.

Open your eyes.

[accelafine]

Do you really think this hasn't been done extensively? Whatever 'waffle' you claim you're hearing sounds more like a tactic of your oppositional conversational style. Not that hard.

So which policies then? I've seen a lot of complaining about him in a personal way, but nothing that's complaining about specific policies.

Open your eyes.

So you can't think of any then. Ok. I don't live there so I can't judge.

[Lacewing]

So which policies then? I've seen a lot of complaining about him in a personal way, but nothing that's complaining about specific policies.

Open your eyes.

So you can't think of any then. Ok. I don't live there so I can't judge.

A simple search of "policies" brings up past discussions...

Yet you've never specifically said which of his policies you hate so much--just some airy fairy waffle about him not being 'nice'. Just saying.

Yes, I have Veggie: his environmental protection roll-backs. Now why don't you take responsibility for yourself and all of your crap, and stop saying things that aren't true...hmm?

Must have missed that comment

We've been here before.