Weird dream, canal tunnel

[Maia]

I'll get this down while I can still remember it well enough. I found an old diary of mine, from 2010, but it was an alternative 2010, one that I never experienced. I've been keeping a daily diary since starting boarding school when I was 11, as separate Word files for each year, but this one I had somehow written in advance. I don't know what was in it, but thinking about it afterwards, 2010 could have turned out very differently for me. It was my first full year after leaving school, and I could have been at university, studying archaeology, for example, rather than already working at the leisure centre, after which, I assume, my life would have taken a very different course. Anyway, whatever the case with regard to that, the dream continued and I was now, suddenly, walking through a long, echoing canal tunnel, but instead of there being a canal and towpath, as there usually would be, there were just train tracks, so in that sense it wasn't a canal tunnel at all, but somehow, I knew that's what it was. But this, of course, made it extremely dangerous, too. Tunnels, and similar enclosed spaces, feature quite a lot in my dreams, as I'm slightly claustrophobic, so there was nothing unusual about this. I did eventually make it to the other end, and got back to the towpath.

And that's about it. Like all dreams, the most important aspect is the emotional content of it, but that's the most difficult thing to convey, when describing it.

[Phil8659]

I learnt, that you can dream in multiple senses at a time, or a single sense.
For example, you can learn to steady your mind by dreaming that you are falling in pitch blackness.
Or, you can listen to music, alone, the most perfect music.
I also leant you can dream in perfect perception, which is addictive, but that dreams are deliberately degraded so that you know it is a dream.
I also learnt that many dreams present you with a problem you have to solve, otherwise they become recurring.

One thing you should also notice. You can respond anyway you like in a dream, but you do not set the stage. You are on stage in a dream.

[Maia]

I learnt, that you can dream in multiple senses at a time, or a single sense.
For example, you can learn to steady your mind by dreaming that you are falling in pitch blackness.
Or, you can listen to music, alone, the most perfect music.
I also leant you can dream in perfect perception, which is addictive, but that dreams are deliberately degraded so that you know it is a dream.
I also learnt that many dreams present you with a problem you have to solve, otherwise they become recurring.

One thing you should also notice. You can respond anyway you like in a dream, but you do not set the stage. You are on stage in a dream.

I always dream with all of my (available) senses, without one predominating. They not degraded though, but rather, heightened, and always tinged with a specific type of emotional signature, as I call it, which is how you know it's a dream. Well, not the only way, but one of the ways you know it's a dream.

[Phil8659]

I learnt, that you can dream in multiple senses at a time, or a single sense.
For example, you can learn to steady your mind by dreaming that you are falling in pitch blackness.
Or, you can listen to music, alone, the most perfect music.
I also leant you can dream in perfect perception, which is addictive, but that dreams are deliberately degraded so that you know it is a dream.
I also learnt that many dreams present you with a problem you have to solve, otherwise they become recurring.

One thing you should also notice. You can respond anyway you like in a dream, but you do not set the stage. You are on stage in a dream.

Perhaps I started dreaming differently when I started asking if dreams could be useful for learning. I asked that question when I was very, young. It was then I started getting lessons. I did not know they were lessons for a long time. But I could ask questions and get answers in metaphor. I hated that for a long time, it makes you work. I even had a fit about it. I eventually understood why. It makes you think.
But I stopped dreaming that way when I understood the point of it all, and that was a long time ago. Now, I work on real problems.
This might sound odd, but I asked if we could modify our own behavior, learn to be better people, by practicing in dreams. Could dreams be used to improve us. So, I asked to be taught.

For a long time, I had the traditional view, I was working with my own sub consciousness. But things did not add up. Then I though, maybe it was a porpoise, the big brained fish, that perhaps had telepathy and was bored or something. Anyway. It did not matter where it came from, what mattered was was it right or wrong. When you learn of things you could not possibly know, you finally get the hint. Still, it does not matter as long as you learn. That is the only thing that is important. It does not matter if anything is smarter, or whatever, it only matters if it is true or not.

So, you only learn when you want to learn, and you have to learn how to listen. Whatever it is that teaches you really don't matter.

You can try it yourself. Concentrate on very specific questions, but only one at a time so there is no confusion. It took me 3 days to get in the door. Maybe you can get in quicker.
If you ever do get in, the lessons will last as long as needed and you will be tested. It will be a strange experience.

[Phil8659]

People cannot teach people, no intelligent life can teach another. Intelligence means we learn by perception. So, what is meant by a teacher is someone who can present you with an environment suited to you, by which you have the opportunity to abstract from. Thus, dreams, a virtual environment, can be used as a school. It is a virtual environment tailored to you. This type of teaching, is why our concept of a school fails miserably. Our schools only encourage you to parrot, which is not learning. To be a learner means you naturally take advantage of your environment to abstract concepts from. It also means, you have chosen to forsake alpha's to parrot, but to do your own work.

[Maia]

I think it's possible for dreams to be prophetic, for example, but if so, what they're picking up on is not the future event itself, but rather, one's own emotional reaction to it. The classic example, in my case, which I always give, is a dream I had when I was 14. It was a few days before the start of the summer holidays, when we were all looking forward to coming home from school, and I had a very emotionally charged dream about crawling over the rubble of destroyed buildings, with bits of wood, metal, broken glass and bricks cutting open the bare skin on my hands and knees. Then, a few days after I got home, a tornado hit my home city, an extremely rare event in the UK. The damage it caused wasn't anything like the devastation in my dream, but that's not really the point, I don't think.

[Phil8659]

I think it's possible for dreams to be prophetic, for example, but if so, what they're picking up on is not the future event itself, but rather, one's own emotional reaction to it. The classic example, in my case, which I always give, is a dream I had when I was 14. It was a few days before the start of the summer holidays, when we were all looking forward to coming home from school, and I had a very emotionally charged dream about crawling over the rubble of destroyed buildings, with bits of wood, metal, broken glass and bricks cutting open the bare skin on my hands and knees. Then, a few days after I got home, a tornado hit my home city, an extremely rare event in the UK. The damage it caused wasn't anything like the devastation in my dream, but that's not really the point, I don't think.

The purpose of grammar systems is prophecy. We must learn to predict the results of our own behavior. The reason why so many fail at learning, when given the chance, is that they get hung up on the idea that prophecy is a form of god magic. It does not matter what your teacher can do, the point is always, what can you do? Because of our stage of evolution, people naturally try to fall back on an alpha.
Now you can use the idea of prophecy to verify that the information does not come from you, but you have to be aware of the fact, the future does not exist, The future is only predictive. It does not yet exist. Believing it does is a simple tense error, and creates the fantasies of the mentally lame.

[Maia]

I think it's possible for dreams to be prophetic, for example, but if so, what they're picking up on is not the future event itself, but rather, one's own emotional reaction to it. The classic example, in my case, which I always give, is a dream I had when I was 14. It was a few days before the start of the summer holidays, when we were all looking forward to coming home from school, and I had a very emotionally charged dream about crawling over the rubble of destroyed buildings, with bits of wood, metal, broken glass and bricks cutting open the bare skin on my hands and knees. Then, a few days after I got home, a tornado hit my home city, an extremely rare event in the UK. The damage it caused wasn't anything like the devastation in my dream, but that's not really the point, I don't think.

The purpose of grammar systems is prophecy. We must learn to predict the results of our own behavior. The reason why so many fail at learning, when given the chance, is that they get hung up on the idea that prophecy is a form of god magic. It does not matter what your teacher can do, the point is always, what can you do? Because of our stage of evolution, people naturally try to fall back on an alpha.

I think prophecy, in the sense that I meant it, is all about emotional states, and the linking of one emotional state to a very similar one in the future or past, in a similar way, for example, that a smell can trigger a memory and an emotion.

[Phil8659]

So, you default to emotion, not to rational behavior. Is there any system of grammar based on emotion? I do not know of any.

Is there any way to improve yourself or the environment by emotion?

Or is it not a fact, you can never share emotion with another.

The result is, you are completely ego centric.

So there is the answer to your dream. You are in a dangerous tunnel of your own echoes.

[Alexiev]

So, you default to emotion, not to rational behavior. Is there any system of grammar based on emotion? I do not know of any.

Is there any way to improve yourself or the environment by emotion?

Or is it not a fact, you can never share emotion with another.

The result is, you are completely ego centric.

To answer your simple questions: yes you can improve yourself or the environment through emotion. Love is an emotion, and if you love your neighbor as yourself you improve yourself. If you love nature, you will work to protect the environment.

It is not a fact that you can never share any emotion. What else do artists do? Don't novelists, poets, painters and musicians share their emotions through their work? Read Tolstoy's What is Art.

By the way, Chomsky's notions of a universal "deep strucure" for grammar have been questioned by studies of the Piraha language, which appears to lack recursion. Here's a superb New Yorker article on the subject.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007 ... erpreter-2

[Phil8659]

Now there is the hard core Alpha animal worshipper. It is typical of Chomskites to be as illiterate as he is.

[Phil8659]

Now, you decide, did the dream tell the the truth? and if so, what is the next question?

[accelafine]

So, you default to emotion, not to rational behavior. Is there any system of grammar based on emotion? I do not know of any.

Is there any way to improve yourself or the environment by emotion?

Or is it not a fact, you can never share emotion with another.

The result is, you are completely ego centric.

To answer your simple questions: yes you can improve yourself or the environment through emotion. Love is an emotion, and if you love your neighbor as yourself you improve yourself. If you love nature, you will work to protect the environment.

It is not a fact that you can never share any emotion. What else do artists do? Don't novelists, poets, painters and musicians share their emotions through their work? Read Tolstoy's What is Art.

By the way, Chomsky's notions of a universal "deep strucure" for grammar have been questioned by studies of the Piraha language, which appears to lack recursion. Here's a superb New Yorker article on the subject.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007 ... erpreter-2

Interesting. I was only recently watching a documentary about this. It cofirmed my opinion of saint Chumpsky as a massive arsehole who can't handle being shown to be wrong. His treatment of Daniel Everett and dismissal of him as a 'charlatan' puts his true character on display. I've never been able to stand the man.

[Maia]

So, you default to emotion, not to rational behavior. Is there any system of grammar based on emotion? I do not know of any.

Is there any way to improve yourself or the environment by emotion?

Or is it not a fact, you can never share emotion with another.

The result is, you are completely ego centric.

So there is the answer to your dream. You are in a dangerous tunnel of your own echoes.

Better than being in a place with no echoes, that would indeed be scary and dangerous. In any case, in the dream, I eventually got back to the towpath.

[Walker]

I always dream with all of my (available) senses, without one predominating. They not degraded though, but rather, heightened, and always tinged with a specific type of emotional signature, as I call it, which is how you know it's a dream. Well, not the only way, but one of the ways you know it's a dream.

This is fascinating and reveals a question.

Outside of a dream, should your senses be somehow heightened in association with an emotional signature, wouldn't you be living the dream, whether or not you knew you were dreaming?

The only way to distinguish the difference between the sleeping dream and the waking dream involves the future. I don't remember ever holding the future as a thought in a sleeping dream because there, attention is limited to immediacy where the future may exist as a feeling such as peace, or hope, or anxiety, etc. Timelines of past and future within the dream get assembled in waking remembrance of the dream, if the dream is not quickly forgotten.