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Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:34 am
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I think it's unlikely that Plato knew any Sanskrit. Not completely impossible, since we know that Indian ideas had made their way to Greece, even before the time of Alexander, but still very unlikely.
Then you must explain why, no such formal work came into existence after it? The style is not indigenous to India.
It's just the extreme improbability of it. I doubt if anyone at all in the Greece of Plato's time spoke Sanskrit, and would have no way of learning it, even if they wanted to. Only a very short time later, with the conquests of Alexander, that would change, but not in Plato's day.
Plato is the father of formal grammar, I do not take this coincidence lightly. Formal Grammar had only one source.
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Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:35 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:34 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:27 am
Then you must explain why, no such formal work came into existence after it? The style is not indigenous to India.
It's just the extreme improbability of it. I doubt if anyone at all in the Greece of Plato's time spoke Sanskrit, and would have no way of learning it, even if they wanted to. Only a very short time later, with the conquests of Alexander, that would change, but not in Plato's day.
Plato is the father of formal grammar, I do not take this coincidence lightly. Formal Grammar had only one source.
I think you would need to provide other evidence, from his other writings, for example, or those of his biographers, to convince historians. We know he spent time in Syracuse, for example, and his life is reasonably well documented, as much as anyone's can be, from so long ago.
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Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:41 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:35 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:34 am

It's just the extreme improbability of it. I doubt if anyone at all in the Greece of Plato's time spoke Sanskrit, and would have no way of learning it, even if they wanted to. Only a very short time later, with the conquests of Alexander, that would change, but not in Plato's day.
Plato is the father of formal grammar, I do not take this coincidence lightly. Formal Grammar had only one source.
I think you would need to provide other evidence, from his other writings, for example, or those of his biographers, to convince historians. We know he spent time in Syracuse, for example, and his life is reasonably well documented, as much as anyone's can be, from so long ago.
I am not interested in proving anything about the work. I do however, continue Plato's work, as it is factually and biologically based. And, it is proven worldwide today by your very own computer. Particulars are not important to universal facts. We often get the particulars wrong, but the Universal is never wrong. Our survival does depend on doing our own work.
I do not even care about particular people who shit can their own life, it is there choice. I do, however, care about them trying to infect other people with their own disability.
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Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:43 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:41 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:35 am
Plato is the father of formal grammar, I do not take this coincidence lightly. Formal Grammar had only one source.
I think you would need to provide other evidence, from his other writings, for example, or those of his biographers, to convince historians. We know he spent time in Syracuse, for example, and his life is reasonably well documented, as much as anyone's can be, from so long ago.
I am not interested in proving anything about the work. I do however, continue Plato's work, as it is factually and biologically based. And, it is proven worldwide today by your very own computer. Particulars are not important to universal facts. We often get the particulars wrong, but the Universal is never wrong. Our survival does depend on doing our own work.
I do not even care about particular people who shit can their own life, it is there choice. I do, however, care about them trying to infect other people with their own disability.
Didn't someone once say that the whole of Western philosophy is just a series of footnotes to Plato? A lot of people have been continuing his work.
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Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:51 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:43 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 7:41 am

I think you would need to provide other evidence, from his other writings, for example, or those of his biographers, to convince historians. We know he spent time in Syracuse, for example, and his life is reasonably well documented, as much as anyone's can be, from so long ago.
I am not interested in proving anything about the work. I do however, continue Plato's work, as it is factually and biologically based. And, it is proven worldwide today by your very own computer. Particulars are not important to universal facts. We often get the particulars wrong, but the Universal is never wrong. Our survival does depend on doing our own work.
I do not even care about particular people who shit can their own life, it is there choice. I do, however, care about them trying to infect other people with their own disability.
Didn't someone once say that the whole of Western philosophy is just a series of footnotes to Plato? A lot of people have been continuing his work.
You are mistaken. They use the name of Plato, but have never once comprehended him. If they did, they would of taken his advice, prove it with Geometry. It is a perfect binary grammar system. I am the only person in history to do that work. It is encyclopedic. I show from the first principles of arithmetic, to how to make computational machines with it.
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Today, we have the technology to even teach the blind how to actually feel geometry. They have tactile tables that actually raise the surface to do it with.
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Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:01 am Today, we have the technology to even teach the blind how to actually feel geometry. They have tactile tables that actually raise the surface to do it with.
We have imaginations too, you know. And by we, I mean "the blind".
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Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:05 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:01 am Today, we have the technology to even teach the blind how to actually feel geometry. They have tactile tables that actually raise the surface to do it with.
We have imaginations too, you know. And by we, I mean "the blind".
There you go. You have all you need to learn to reason.
As I said, shit canning it, has always been up to each person on an individual basis.
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Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:07 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:05 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:01 am Today, we have the technology to even teach the blind how to actually feel geometry. They have tactile tables that actually raise the surface to do it with.
We have imaginations too, you know. And by we, I mean "the blind".
There you go. You have all you need to learn to reason.
As I said, shit canning it, has always been up to each person on an individual basis.
Are you talking about spatial awareness, shapes and things like that?
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Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:13 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:07 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:05 am

We have imaginations too, you know. And by we, I mean "the blind".
There you go. You have all you need to learn to reason.
As I said, shit canning it, has always been up to each person on an individual basis.
Are you talking about spatial awareness, shapes and things like that?
I am talking about a grammar system which can teach you the whole of grammar. All of grammar is simply taking the material differences of the universe and learning how to parse them into things that maintain and promote life over the entire biosphere.

Or again, the standardization of information management by which we maintain and promote life.
That is the topic, making the whole of your life a memorable trip, is it not?
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Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:15 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:13 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:07 am

There you go. You have all you need to learn to reason.
As I said, shit canning it, has always been up to each person on an individual basis.
Are you talking about spatial awareness, shapes and things like that?
I am talking about a grammar system which can teach you the whole of grammar. All of grammar is simply taking the material differences of the universe and learning how to parse them into things that maintain and promote life over the entire biosphere.

Or again, the standardization of information management by which we maintain and promote life.
That is the topic, making the whole of your life a memorable trip, is it not?
Yes, life should indeed be a memorable trip. If you're talking about spatial awareness, recognition of shapes and spaces, memory of them, and so on, then I'm pretty good at that, but purely from a practical standpoint.
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Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:26 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:15 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:13 am

Are you talking about spatial awareness, shapes and things like that?
I am talking about a grammar system which can teach you the whole of grammar. All of grammar is simply taking the material differences of the universe and learning how to parse them into things that maintain and promote life over the entire biosphere.

Or again, the standardization of information management by which we maintain and promote life.
That is the topic, making the whole of your life a memorable trip, is it not?
Yes, life should indeed be a memorable trip. If you're talking about spatial awareness, recognition of shapes and spaces, memory of them, and so on, then I'm pretty good at that, but purely from a practical standpoint.
Really? what the hell do you mean by practical standpoint? Literacy is the only thing a mind is capable of achieving, so I cannot even put your words into any sensible context.
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Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:29 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:26 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:15 am
I am talking about a grammar system which can teach you the whole of grammar. All of grammar is simply taking the material differences of the universe and learning how to parse them into things that maintain and promote life over the entire biosphere.

Or again, the standardization of information management by which we maintain and promote life.
That is the topic, making the whole of your life a memorable trip, is it not?
Yes, life should indeed be a memorable trip. If you're talking about spatial awareness, recognition of shapes and spaces, memory of them, and so on, then I'm pretty good at that, but purely from a practical standpoint.
Really? what the hell do you mean by practical standpoint? Literacy is the only thing a mind is capable of achieving, so I cannot even put your words into any sensible context.
A mind is capable of achieving many things, and literacy is only one of them. Not even the most important, by a long way, as the vast majority of people in history have been illiterate, but still had a mind.
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Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:39 am
Phil8659 wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:29 am
Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:26 am

Yes, life should indeed be a memorable trip. If you're talking about spatial awareness, recognition of shapes and spaces, memory of them, and so on, then I'm pretty good at that, but purely from a practical standpoint.
Really? what the hell do you mean by practical standpoint? Literacy is the only thing a mind is capable of achieving, so I cannot even put your words into any sensible context.
A mind is capable of achieving many things, and literacy is only one of them. Not even the most important, by a long way, as the vast majority of people in history have been illiterate, but still had a mind.
Okay, now you are either deliberately deflecting are simply cannot grasp the simple and it is time to end this conversation.
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Maia wrote: Sat May 10, 2025 8:39 am

A mind is capable of achieving many things, and literacy is only one of them. Not even the most important, by a long way, as the vast majority of people in history have been illiterate, but still had a mind.
Are you aware that the topic of our discussion was a Noun? Are you aware that you suddenly claimed that a Verb was now the topic? So, answer me this, is it possible, in any manner, that a member of a class can in anywise change the definition of the class of which it is a member? You pulled an old Sophist trick. Every member of a class is a member of that class in accordance with the definition of that class, therefore no member of a class is distinguishable from any other member of that class by definition, i.e., every class, no matter how constructed, is contiguous with the definition. Therefore, the Law of equality stands; what may be predicated of any thing is wholly determined by the definition of that thing. This is why no one has been able to figure out why they keep contradicting themselves when trying to write a consistent Set Theory, or Group Theory. They really are not aware of what they are doing.
A verb is a given in the universe, grammar is simply learning how to parse it correctly. There is no magic in it. As I said, I do not care that people make their own life a shit pile. I, try not to be deceived about it though.

Sun Tzu was an idiot. As a mind can only be or not be literate, the Art of War can only be practiced by the literate.
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