How is life?

[accelafine]

he'll prevent you from offing yourself if you're suffering,

A flat out lie, guy.

My bad. Maybe you just prefer people to go in pain by brute means instead of less pain from assisted suicide. Wow! I totally thought it was a matter of principle that you were against suicide. At least that's been cleared up.

He doesn't give a damn how or if someone does it as long as it's not easy and painless

[Gary Childress]

A flat out lie, guy.

My bad. Maybe you just prefer people to go in pain by brute means instead of less pain from assisted suicide. Wow! I totally thought it was a matter of principle that you were against suicide. At least that's been cleared up.

He doesn't give a damn how or if someone does it as long as it's not easy and painless

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. He talks a lot about shooting people in self-defense.

[Age]

I think we are all brave warriors to be here on this 'E-Ticket Ride' (Disneyland reference). Sometimes it's exhilarating... and sometimes it's horrifying. It's basically >> just what we're doing << for whatever reasons. Whether we might be born into this life or not doesn't really matter (I think)... but it can be an opportunity for playing with the experience... surfing the waves. That can be interesting in our sensory forms that we can share with others.

I think people should be given a compassionate path to leave if they really want to.

you people are not born into Life, it is Life, or the Universe, Itself, which is continually creating 'you', anew.

And, if any one of you does not want to stay, here, remaining consciously aware of what is happening and occuring, here, in Life, then absolutely no one has any 'right' to tell you what you can, or can not, do, with 'your life', nor do they have any 'right' at all to stop you from what is called 'takung your own life'.

However, in saying that if absolutely any one wants to, what is called, 'end their own life', then this is just another 'blight' on an already damaged' society, n which they are, or were, living with-in.

[henry quirk]

because what we want to be true and what suits out political agenda makes it true.

Of course not. So why do you keep eatin' the slop served up by folks lookin' to neuter your nation?

Anyway, that subject is irrelevant to the one at hand...

I think people should be given a compassionate path to leave if they really want to.

Can Larry leave? Sure. Makes me no never-mind if he does.

Should everyone else assist him or make it easy for him? No. Such a compassionate path coarsens and cheapens life, leads to a commodification of suicide, which further coarsens and cheapens life.

I totally thought it was a matter of principle that you were against suicide.

I think suicide is incredibly stupid. But as I say...

If, er, Larry wants to off himself, he can do that. That's his business.

It's your life to do any damn stupid thing you want with it. But no one owes you an assist when you throw yourself away. And there's no compassion in killing a man becuz he's sad.

Anyway, my good friend age has decided to grace this leg of the thread and that's a big get the hell outta Dodge for me, so of you have anything snappy to add you best get to it, chop-chop. Where the Basilisk treads, I will not.

[accelafine]

Of course not. So why do you keep eatin' the slop served up by folks lookin' to neuter your nation?

What 'folks'? I don't take any notice of what the govt. says about anything.

[Age]

because what we want to be true and what suits out political agenda makes it true.

Of course not. So why do you keep eatin' the slop served up by folks lookin' to neuter your nation?

Anyway, that subject is irrelevant to the one at hand...

I think people should be given a compassionate path to leave if they really want to.

Can Larry leave? Sure. Makes me no never-mind if he does.

Should everyone else assist him or make it easy for him? No.

1. Who do you think 'you' are that you believe that you can tell others how they should, or should not, live?

2. Why should one who has a very painful terminal disease, with only a few weeks or months left of life, for example, but who is incapacitated to self-administer suicide, not be assisted at all?

Show 'us' what your explanations are, here, exactly?

if you do not, then, yet again, 'we' have 'another one' who comes, here, makes claims, but provides absolutely nothing that backs up and supports its views, beliefs, and/or claims.

Such a compassionate path coarsens and cheapens life, leads to a commodification of suicide, which further coarsens and cheapens life.

'This', coming from the one who claims that it would should any one dead for even just 'trying to' take a moldy piece piece of bread, which this one believes is 'its bread', is quite bemusing, besides being absolutely amusing.

The one who has 'cheapened' 'human life' to 'moldy bread', and over 'a toothpick' of all things, is actually 'trying to' argue and fight for its other Truly distorted belief that 'one' should not help 'another' when they are dying and in pain anyway.

Talk about self-presenting another prime example of just how 'distorted' and 'backwards' some human beings had become, back in the days when this was being written.

I totally thought it was a matter of principle that you were against suicide.

I think suicide is incredibly stupid.

And, so everyone else should think the 'same way' that 'henry quirk" thinks.

Which makes 'me' wonder if 'henry quirk" has ever considered just how many people actually think that what 'henry quirk" thinks, and/or believes, is actually far, far more so-called 'stupid'?

But as I say...

If, er, Larry wants to off himself, he can do that.

Ah how 'kind' of 'henry quirk" giving 'permission' for 'others' to do what they want to with 'their lives'.

I now wonder if 'henry quirk" believes that 'others' should be 'thankful' to "henry quirk" for allowing them that they 'can do' what 'they want to'?

That's his business.

But, why is it, supposedly, 'your business' if human beings ask for 'help' to do what they just can not do?

It's your life to do any damn stupid thing you want with it.

But, on the contrary, you are claiming that people can not ask for help, here.

But no one owes you an assist when you throw yourself away.

But no one has ever suggested that any one 'owes' any one, here.

Where are you getting this 'delusional conclusion' from, exactly?

And there's no compassion in killing a man becuz he's sad.

But, you expect compassion for killing a human being, 'man', 'woman', or child if they were 'dying of hunger', for example, or if they just 'try to' take of with what you believe and claim 'is yours'.

Also, why are you only 'looking at' and using the 'sad' word, here, only?

Out of the multitude of reasons for wanting assistance in 'suicide' you pick the 'one reason' that I do not think[

1. Any one would have decided to 'commit suicide' over anyway.

2. I doubt any one would ask for assistance to 'commit suicide' for 'that reason'.

3. I doubt any human being would assist another for 'that reason', only.

Although there is no doubt that there are some adult human beings who would kill a child dead for just 'trying to' take a 'moldy piece of bread' of all things. So, maybe there are some who would help another 'commit suicide' for just being so-called 'sad', after all.

Anyway, my good friend age has decided to grace this leg of the thread and that's a big get the hell outta Dodge for me, so of you have anything snappy to add you best get to it, chop-chop. Where the Basilisk treads, I will not.

Once more what can be very clearly seen, here, is when 'these people' are questioned and challenged over their beliefs and claims, which they can not back up and support in any way whatsoever ever at all, they 'run and hide', as 'it' is called.

How afraid and frightened one must be, and how much more of a 'weaker excuse' could one come up with to not respond to others, just because 'I', come here, and just say, write, and point out some things, here?

At least pretend you are not a coward "henry quirk", by staying and by trying to back up and support your views, beliefs, and claims, here, instead of 'taking off' like a Truly weak and scared individual.

[Age]

Of course not. So why do you keep eatin' the slop served up by folks lookin' to neuter your nation?

What 'folks'? I don't take any notice of what the govt. says about anything.

It could be interesting, or at least amusing, to find out,

1. What "henry quirk" was even on about, here. And,

2. Why "henry quirk" even brought 'it' up, here, in the first place.

But, "henry quirk", once again, has 'taken off', already, so 'we' will never become 'the wiser'.

[Age]

Anyway, my good friend age has decided to grace this leg of the thread and that's a big get the hell outta Dodge for me, so of you have anything snappy to add you best get to it, chop-chop. Where the Basilisk treads, I will not.

So, all 'I' have to do is just enter into a thread in which "Henry quirk" is in, to make it leave and thus 'shut it up'.

[accelafine]

[Lacewing]

Not sure what you mean by "whether we might be born into this life or not".

I was referring to the question of this topic... whether it's best to be born into this life or not. I don't think it matters one way or the other. It just is... for whatever reasons.

[Gary Childress]

Not sure what you mean by "whether we might be born into this life or not".

I was referring to the question of this topic... whether it's best to be born into this life or not. I don't think it matters one way or the other. It just is... for whatever reasons.

Yes. That's obvious. That's a given. I don't think it renders the poll completely meaningless, however, if that's part of your point.

[Lacewing]

Such a compassionate path coarsens and cheapens life

I disagree. It is other things that coarsen and cheapen life: deranged politics, delusional religion, archaic beliefs, warring attitudes, etc.

People either find value in living their own lives or they don't. If they don't, they might drag down those around them.

Maybe if assisted suicide were accessible and legal, people would value life more... knowing that they had an easier choice to 'check out' if/when they really wanted to. And maybe school shooters and those who mow down crowds with their vehicles would 'step out' before getting to the raging point of destroying other lives.

It's horrible and infuriating to feel miserably trapped or suffering against one's will. Legally assisted suicide could save a lot of money and heartache for those who DO want to be here.

[Lacewing]

Yes. That's obvious. That's a given. I don't think it renders the poll completely meaningless, however, if that's part of your point.

I wasn't saying the poll was meaningless -- I was simply answering the question from my own perspective. I'm not feeling conflict over whether or not it's better to be in this life: it's just something to choose to experience or not.

[Gary Childress]

Yes. That's obvious. That's a given. I don't think it renders the poll completely meaningless, however, if that's part of your point.

I wasn't saying the poll was meaningless -- I was simply answering the question from my own perspective. I'm not feeling conflict over whether or not it's better to be in this life: it's just something to choose to experience or not.

As I see it, we have no choice but to experience life. And a lot of the time, it's not a very pleasant experience.

[Age]

Yes. That's obvious. That's a given. I don't think it renders the poll completely meaningless, however, if that's part of your point.

I wasn't saying the poll was meaningless -- I was simply answering the question from my own perspective. I'm not feeling conflict over whether or not it's better to be in this life: it's just something to choose to experience or not.

As I see it, we have no choice but to experience life. And a lot of the time, it's not a very pleasant experience.

Depending on one's own personal past experiences, then 'living' can be absolutely anywhere along the spectrum between absolutely unpleasant to absolutely pleasant and obviously anywhere in between can change not just from one day to the next but also from one moment to the next. Again, 'past experiences' will make 'a world' of difference.

So, how one sees, or views, 'life' and 'living' is not about 'Life', itself, but on one's own 'past experiences', instead.