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RWStanding
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Democracy and Tyranny

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Democracy and Tyranny
We have a serious condition today with ethical-political words or terms. They are not treated holistically, but as a random collections with meanings that suit fashion and personal whimsy. And worse, a collection of such terms may be made by individuals to frame a pseudo ‘philosophy’ employoing such empty terms as ‘woke’.
Democracy in particular is in danger. This can be seen in the USA regarding gun law, which allows almost unlimited ownership of weapons that are far more lethal than those when the Constitution was devised. A modern weapon in the hands of one or a few ‘extreme’ people may one day slaughter hundreds, or a whole body of people.
Most people will agree that Tyranny is directly opposed to Democracy and Freedom. But that term cannot be defined in isolation and must relate holistically using ethical terminology. Tyranny is thus egotistic authority, that demands obedient responsibility. What is loosely termed ‘democracy’ is opposed to that in the term freedom. Democracy being simply freedom from tyranny, without stating what exactly is free and how.
There are two extremes to democracy, as freedom. The same ego as stated relating to tyranny, but here related to the individual in mass. The autonomous indidividual. At its extreme the gun law or absence of law in the USA.
The other extreme of democracy, as freedom, employs the same obedience as tyranny, but as responsibility and essentially to society as corporate individuals. A society is more than the sum of its parts – the individual. And such society naturally has its hierarchy, from the local community be it village or town. Through to the country, and only then to the global society. An holistic local community essentially needing to be protected and sustained and be self-sustaining as may be possible pragmatically.
There are thus three essential forms of state-society, all of which have some virtue in providing the rule of law. Opposed to these three is the chaos and war that is seen today in many parts of the world. Albeit war at times may be needful if some form of democracy is to be protected. We made war on Hitler and did not submit, to what today would be the ultimate tyranny, employing AI.
Ansiktsburk
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Aint a murder spree fan, but wasn’t that gun amendment partly made to protect democracy against a tyrant?
puto
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Books to read VII and IV of Republic. They Tyranny of the Thirty of BCE 404. BBC News, Middle East Website. "... No city is more wretched than one under a tyranny" (576e.)
Wendyuchida
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Post by Wendyuchida »

Democracy and autocracy are always in tension. In America, they have guns, which is a form of democracy, but it is also a threat to others. Autocracy is a form of patronage. Today, these regimes are still constantly fighting.
Alice12
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Democracy and Tyranny represent two contrasting forms of governance, each with its own principles, structures, and impacts on society.
Martin Peter Clarke
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Democracy easily regresses to tyranny. And it's getting easier. Governance with freedom from is obviously superior to freedom to. Is obviously more democratic. The UK is a second rate full democracy. Ranked 17th. In the top 7%. The US is a first rate flawed democracy. Ranked 28th. Reducing freedom from in the name of freedom to is antidemocratic. Tyrannous.

PS we're obviously heading that way, to flawed democracy, by Reform.

By democracy we obviously mean any system where there is an attempt to redistribute wealth, by competing political parties, while the rich, the ruling class, get richer. The wealth of the ruling class remains untouchable. That is the flaw, the invisible tyranny hiding in plain sight, inherent in democracy. The trees always vote for the axe as it has a wooden handle. The turkeys always vote for Christmas, because, hey, it's Christmas!
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