The fake divinity of a man and his single mother

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Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:38 am You say nothing about freedom and responsibility. Is your life about nothing but earning and spending your money?
Freedom is indeed important.

I don't want to live in a country where they ask me how money I made last year because they want half. I also avoid countries where they believe that my current romantic connection somehow owns half of my assets.

So, it is not just that you pay 36 cents in the UK for something that costs just 5 cents in Malaysia.

For heaven's sake, fish and chips are much better quality in Kuala Lumpur than in London, and cost not even a quarter as much.

That is just the beginning of the beginning of the beginning of the reason why the UK is totally uncompetitive compared to Malaysia.

Everybody is also a lot nicer over here! They are friendly people!

There's not one European man who lives here in SE Asia who would ever agree to move back to the EU or the UK. The West sucks in so many ways that I don't even know where to begin!
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Pistolero wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:56 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:26 am Yes, I sometimes think President Trump is a figurehead who is good for manipulating crowds , and the US is actually ruled by his henchmen.
No, Dear...you are trying to comfort yourself....all of them.
Biden included.
Obama, included.
Clinton included.
Not just the one that suits you.

A 30+ trillion dollar empire will not place its fate in the hands of dim-wit midwit Americans, like you.
That's not how it works.....

They manipulate yo and you do not even know it.


Middle Earth is unreal insofar as real Earth contains no beautiful Elves who can do no wrong. The struggle against evil is like we are all on our own here with no help from supernatural beings like the Elves in Lord of the Rings.
No good/evil dear....it's only in your head.
No cosmic evil....no Satan.

ALL value-judgments, are relative to an objective.

For Sauron Gandalf is 'evil' because he prevents him from realizing his goals.
We differentiate Sauron from Gandalf as Sauron and his Orcs were ugly and Gandalf and his friends were beautiful. In a fantasy such as LOTR all readers can tell good from evil. In this real world it takes a little more effort but it can be done , and beauty/truth is the touchstone.
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godelian wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:18 am For heaven's sake, fish and chips are much better quality in Kuala Lumpur than in London, and cost not even a quarter as much.
Fish n chips in London? ..borderline Bangledesh

Go West - Southampton, there's a chippy in Bitterne the cod coated in melt in the mouth batter and propper chips - with malt vinegar, not that white "vinegar" crap. The "chips" in London these days are probably borderline FRIES - skinny little pieces of yuck.
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godelian wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:18 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:38 am You say nothing about freedom and responsibility. Is your life about nothing but earning and spending your money?
Freedom is indeed important.

I don't want to live in a country where they ask me how money I made last year because they want half. I also avoid countries where they believe that my current romantic connection somehow owns half of my assets.

So, it is not just that you pay 36 cents in the UK for something that costs just 5 cents in Malaysia.

For heaven's sake, fish and chips are much better quality in Kuala Lumpur than in London, and cost not even a quarter as much.

That is just the beginning of the beginning of the beginning of the reason why the UK is totally uncompetitive compared to Malaysia.

Everybody is also a lot nicer over here! They are friendly people!

There's not one European man who lives here in SE Asia who would ever agree to move back to the EU or the UK. The West sucks in so many ways that I don't even know where to begin!
You are amoral. Interesting. I wish I knew how you do it.
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:06 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:30 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:16 am

I've already explained some time ago my analysis or mere belief of what the trinity is to godelian - he had no reply, ergo, no argument.




I am not certain what you mean by that, in what context?




Absolutely Belinda, I am still open to the concept that we are within a non divine simulation construct of reality - personally, since what I was made to suffer and what sage/GOD stated re Christ, I am sticking with a Divine GOD reality.

Atto, I may be mistaken, but I thought you experienced an encounter with what you took to be God. Such encounters we often adapted to intellectual beliefs, which I gather is what you yourself did. The fleeting experience is one of not being an ego, and is an important learning experience, as long as it's spontaneous and not induced by psychedelic substances.
Your statement clearly demonstrates to me that you have paid little attention to what I have been discussing since joining the forum. "An encounter" is singular - if I had one encounter I'd have little to base my analysis on.

I have taken psychedelic substances - whilst on any of them, I have never experienced ANYTHING pertaining to GOD.
But you wrote From 28 years of extremely personal experience of this GOD entity -
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Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:34 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:06 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:30 am


Atto, I may be mistaken, but I thought you experienced an encounter with what you took to be God. Such encounters we often adapted to intellectual beliefs, which I gather is what you yourself did. The fleeting experience is one of not being an ego, and is an important learning experience, as long as it's spontaneous and not induced by psychedelic substances.
Your statement clearly demonstrates to me that you have paid little attention to what I have been discussing since joining the forum. "An encounter" is singular - if I had one encounter I'd have little to base my analysis on.

I have taken psychedelic substances - whilst on any of them, I have never experienced ANYTHING pertaining to GOD.
But you wrote From 28 years of extremely personal experience of this GOD entity -
Yes, 28 years of ongoing experiences=interactions with GOD (*and sage) is NOT a singular experience - whereas you stated:- "but I thought you experienced an encounter with what you took to be God."

Am I misunderstanding something here?

PS. U edited your statement from - "AN encounter"
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:44 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:34 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:06 am

Your statement clearly demonstrates to me that you have paid little attention to what I have been discussing since joining the forum. "An encounter" is singular - if I had one encounter I'd have little to base my analysis on.

I have taken psychedelic substances - whilst on any of them, I have never experienced ANYTHING pertaining to GOD.
But you wrote From 28 years of extremely personal experience of this GOD entity -
Yes, 28 years of ongoing experiences=interactions with GOD (*and sage) is NOT a singular experience - whereas you stated:- "but I thought you experienced an encounter with what you took to be God."

Am I misunderstanding something here?
Yes, you are. Even one brief "encounter" of this sort you remember as long as you live. If I had continued to experience such on other occasions I'd have sought medical advice, because nobody can stay alive without their ego.
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Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:48 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:44 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:34 am
But you wrote From 28 years of extremely personal experience of this GOD entity -
Yes, 28 years of ongoing experiences=interactions with GOD (*and sage) is NOT a singular experience - whereas you stated:- "but I thought you experienced an encounter with what you took to be God."

Am I misunderstanding something here?
Yes, you are. Even one singular "encounter" of this sort you remember as long as you live. If I had continued to experience such an encounter on other occasions I'd have sought medical advice, because nobody can stay alive without their ego.
"Of this sort" --- you have no comprehension of the variations of encounters. Ridiculous discussing with atheists.
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:50 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:48 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:44 am

Yes, 28 years of ongoing experiences=interactions with GOD (*and sage) is NOT a singular experience - whereas you stated:- "but I thought you experienced an encounter with what you took to be God."

Am I misunderstanding something here?
Yes, you are. Even one singular "encounter" of this sort you remember as long as you live. If I had continued to experience such an encounter on other occasions I'd have sought medical advice, because nobody can stay alive without their ego.
"Of this sort" --- you have no comprehension of the variations of encounters. Ridiculous discussing with atheists.
" of this sort": Yes , we can spontaneously lose our sense of ego. This can be a learning experience, if it's ephemeral.
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Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:26 am You are amoral. Interesting. I wish I knew how you do it.
No, as far as I am concerned, all morality emanates from the laws of the Almighty. So, I am not "amoral". It is rather that I am not morally manipulable.

I consider an argument in morality receivable only if its account/justification can be verified mechanically/objectively to necessarily follow from the axiomatic context that it appoints. This approach is not possible in Christianity but is eminently supported in Judaism and Islam. Christianity and logic are like water and fire. There are no moral arguments possible in Christianity because Christianity is not a system and does not behave like one.
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:24 am Fish n chips in London? ..borderline Bangledesh

Go West - Southampton, there's a chippy in Bitterne the cod coated in melt in the mouth batter and propper chips - with malt vinegar, not that white "vinegar" crap. The "chips" in London these days are probably borderline FRIES - skinny little pieces of yuck.
You can easily find proper chips with proper vinegar in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. And unlike in the UK, it is very affordable.
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...but can you buy a beer?
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:50 pm ...but can you buy a beer?
Yes, but from the Chinese or Indian shops and supermarkets. You cannot buy beer from the Malay ones.

If you look foreign enough, the Chinese and Indian retailers will happily sell beer or liquor to you, no questions asked. However , if you happen to look somewhat Malay, they will ask you for your id card. There is a hefty fine on selling alcohol to Malays or even to the numerous Indonesians. It's the same system as in Dubai.

If someone outside a Chinese minimart asks you to buy alcohol for them, don't do it.
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:44 am
Belinda wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:34 am
attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:06 am

Your statement clearly demonstrates to me that you have paid little attention to what I have been discussing since joining the forum. "An encounter" is singular - if I had one encounter I'd have little to base my analysis on.

I have taken psychedelic substances - whilst on any of them, I have never experienced ANYTHING pertaining to GOD.
But you wrote From 28 years of extremely personal experience of this GOD entity -
Yes, 28 years of ongoing experiences=interactions with GOD (*and sage) is NOT a singular experience - whereas you stated:- "but I thought you experienced an encounter with what you took to be God."

Am I misunderstanding something here?

PS. U edited your statement from - "AN encounter"
I see. I had thought you referred to mystical experience, but I mistook you,
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attofishpi wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:50 pm ...but can you buy a beer?
As long as it's alcohol free?
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