It does, as far as it goes, until he gets grandiose. He was inclusive, a socialist, a leveller, through peaceful means. He was kind.Belinda wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:01 amJesus is the best or ideal type of a man: that description of Jesus suits a modern age which is scientific not supernatural.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:30 pmNature embraces the God concept and so has humanity.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:44 am
Nature excludes God. What is its self-embracing One Law that They are?
We forget that, given the foolishness of supernatural belief.
May I ask.
Do you put God above or below yourself?
God here I define as a best ideal, natural or supernatural or whatever gives you the best rules and laws to live by.
Consider first, that you are an animal first, and anything else after your mental birth.
The God, or best ideal or type of an ant, is an ant.
The God, or best ideal or type of a lion, is a lion.
The God, or best ideal or type of a human being, is a human being.
We are natural and spiritual beings, not supernatural beings, and should thus follow a natural and spiritual religion, not a supernatural based religion.
Thoughts?
What is the concept of God philosophically?
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Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
Savior = supernatural to most Christians.
We are saved from hell and sent to heaven, which are both imaginary concepts.
It is immoral to want to ride Jesus as a scapegoat into heaven.
Christian morality is garbage and they don't care and just go for the free ride.
Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
No ,I don't. You don't even know me!Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:41 pmSavior = supernatural to most Christians.
We are saved from hell and sent to heaven, which are both imaginary concepts.
It is immoral to want to ride Jesus as a scapegoat into heaven.
Christian morality is garbage and they don't care and just go for the free ride.
Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
Savior....messiah.
Scapegoat.
What every slavish spirit needs to cope with existence.
Savior, imaginary transition form corporeal to incorporeal being.
Savior, the christened one - chosen.
Scapegoat.
What every slavish spirit needs to cope with existence.
Savior, imaginary transition form corporeal to incorporeal being.
Savior, the christened one - chosen.
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I know right wing Christian morality and it sucks.Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:20 amNo ,I don't. You don't even know me!Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:41 pmSavior = supernatural to most Christians.
We are saved from hell and sent to heaven, which are both imaginary concepts.
It is immoral to want to ride Jesus as a scapegoat into heaven.
Christian morality is garbage and they don't care and just go for the free ride.
It begin with embracing the notion that it is salvific to punish the innocent instead of the guilty.
Can't get much lower than that, except for inquisitions and jihads.
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I don't know about chosen.
Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus ever chosen or elected to the Christ position.
Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
He is the christened one, no?
Who christened him?
From the Greek Xρistos....Xρισιμος, useful....
A useful scapegoat, for man to unload his imperfections, i.e., sins.
The Jews select a chicken actualize the unloading of their yearly sins, into it, and then sacrifice it...
This is the sacrificial lamb.
Sacrifice....from the Latin sacrum facia - to make sacred.
Christ is made sacred by slaughtering him as the Jews slaughter a lamb.
Scapegoat.
Judas goat....the use of a goat to lead the sheeple to slaughter.
Jesus is a Judas goat.
Who christened him?
From the Greek Xρistos....Xρισιμος, useful....
A useful scapegoat, for man to unload his imperfections, i.e., sins.
The Jews select a chicken actualize the unloading of their yearly sins, into it, and then sacrifice it...
This is the sacrificial lamb.
Sacrifice....from the Latin sacrum facia - to make sacred.
Christ is made sacred by slaughtering him as the Jews slaughter a lamb.
Scapegoat.
Judas goat....the use of a goat to lead the sheeple to slaughter.
Jesus is a Judas goat.
Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
Do you ever think there are some people who know more than you?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:17 pmI know right wing Christian morality and it sucks.Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:20 amNo ,I don't. You don't even know me!Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:41 pm
Savior = supernatural to most Christians.
We are saved from hell and sent to heaven, which are both imaginary concepts.
It is immoral to want to ride Jesus as a scapegoat into heaven.
Christian morality is garbage and they don't care and just go for the free ride.
It begin with embracing the notion that it is salvific to punish the innocent instead of the guilty.
Can't get much lower than that, except for inquisitions and jihads.
Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
And your point is?Pistolero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:51 pm He is the christened one, no?
Who christened him?
From the Greek Xρistos....Xρισιμος, useful....
A useful scapegoat, for man to unload his imperfections, i.e., sins.
The Jews select a chicken actualize the unloading of their yearly sins, into it, and then sacrifice it...
This is the sacrificial lamb.
Sacrifice....from the Latin sacrum facia - to make sacred.
Christ is made sacred by slaughtering him as the Jews slaughter a lamb.
Scapegoat.
Judas goat....the use of a goat to lead the sheeple to slaughter.
Jesus is a Judas goat.
Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
I Had not noticed Jesus getting grandiose. Can you quote ?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:09 pmIt does, as far as it goes, until he gets grandiose. He was inclusive, a socialist, a leveller, through peaceful means. He was kind.Belinda wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:01 amJesus is the best or ideal type of a man: that description of Jesus suits a modern age which is scientific not supernatural.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:30 pm
Nature embraces the God concept and so has humanity.
We forget that, given the foolishness of supernatural belief.
May I ask.
Do you put God above or below yourself?
God here I define as a best ideal, natural or supernatural or whatever gives you the best rules and laws to live by.
Consider first, that you are an animal first, and anything else after your mental birth.
The God, or best ideal or type of an ant, is an ant.
The God, or best ideal or type of a lion, is a lion.
The God, or best ideal or type of a human being, is a human being.
We are natural and spiritual beings, not supernatural beings, and should thus follow a natural and spiritual religion, not a supernatural based religion.
Thoughts?
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Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
I am x 7? The only way to the Father is through me?Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:04 pmI Had not noticed Jesus getting grandiose. Can you quote ?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:09 pmIt does, as far as it goes, until he gets grandiose. He was inclusive, a socialist, a leveller, through peaceful means. He was kind.
Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
Obviously 'this one' has no idea nor clue, yet, of what the words, 'The only way to the Father is through 'me',' actually means and is referring to, exactly.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:39 pmI am x 7? The only way to the Father is through me?Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:04 pmI Had not noticed Jesus getting grandiose. Can you quote ?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:09 pm
It does, as far as it goes, until he gets grandiose. He was inclusive, a socialist, a leveller, through peaceful means. He was kind.
Re: What is the concept of God philosophically?
Yes. One does wonder which utterances in the Gospels are actually said by Jesus, and which by later commentators.Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:39 pmI am x 7? The only way to the Father is through me?Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:04 pmI Had not noticed Jesus getting grandiose. Can you quote ?Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:09 pm
It does, as far as it goes, until he gets grandiose. He was inclusive, a socialist, a leveller, through peaceful means. He was kind.