Let's suppose that A-G is a gimme. The White House says he's not, but let's not question it. What is your evidence that this is happening in more than one case?FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:03 pmthe Sotomayor concurrence when the supreme court ruled 9 to 0 against the position you are arguing.... "That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with due process of law, including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings."Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:49 pmAbsolutely. What's your evidence that this has not been done?
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So..the Dems are a cult?Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:07 pmImmanuel, insofar asImmanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:53 pmWell, the Democrats aren't impartial, and do seek power and money. Are you calling them a cult?
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Oh, they will, after theThe power struggle within the US will go on. And I do not think that things will settle down (culturally, socially, emotionally).
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But A-G is the case I was discussing with Walker when you butted in to tell me I was wrong. So that's the only case that needs to be covered before you can finally accept that I wasn't wrong.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:11 pmLet's suppose that A-G is a gimme. The White House says he's not, but let's not question it. What is your evidence that this is happening in more than one case?FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:03 pmthe Sotomayor concurrence when the supreme court ruled 9 to 0 against the position you are arguing.... "That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with due process of law, including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings."Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:49 pm
Absolutely. What's your evidence that this has not been done?
The White House lost 9 - 0 at the Supreme Court, and the latter is the authority not the former, so the White House can suck it.
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No, he's the one case you cited as if it proved that the Trump admit was not giving "due process" to illegals. And since he was a one-off, he's not even relevant to the situation.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:26 pmBut A-G is the case I was discussing with Walker when you butted in to tell me I was wrong.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:11 pmLet's suppose that A-G is a gimme. The White House says he's not, but let's not question it. What is your evidence that this is happening in more than one case?FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:03 pm
the Sotomayor concurrence when the supreme court ruled 9 to 0 against the position you are arguing.... "That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with due process of law, including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings."
The White House says that all that was missing from the A-G process was "one step of paperwork." Sounds about right. And here's the conclusion to the case: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4zoxvBPzGqU
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Show me the quote where I am doing that.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:29 pmNo, he's the one case you cited as if it proved that the Trump admit was not giving "due process" to illegals.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:26 pmBut A-G is the case I was discussing with Walker when you butted in to tell me I was wrong.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:11 pm
Let's suppose that A-G is a gimme. The White House says he's not, but let's not question it. What is your evidence that this is happening in more than one case?
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Oh, very easily. You repeatedly said that the thing you're arguing for is "due process," not merely Abrego Garcia. You only wanted us to suppose that the A-G case was the same as every other case, obviously...otherwise, it doesn't relate to the "process" being applied to others...all you have, then, is a one-off mistake (presumably) that is not typical of any other cases.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:32 pmShow me the quote where I am doing that.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:29 pmNo, he's the one case you cited as if it proved that the Trump admit was not giving "due process" to illegals.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:26 pm
But A-G is the case I was discussing with Walker when you butted in to tell me I was wrong.
Unless you have proof that it is. Do you?
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No insinuations, show me the quote where I am using that case to say that Trump denies due process to illegals.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:35 pmOh, very easily.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:32 pmShow me the quote where I am doing that.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:29 pm
No, he's the one case you cited as if it proved that the Trump admit was not giving "due process" to illegals.
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In case you have forgotten, this is where you butted into my conversation with Walker to tell me I was wrong. It has nothing to do with the bullshit you are spewing now.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 6:49 pm"Due process" applies to citizens only. Those that are illegal immigrants already are not owed any particular "process" by the country they invaded. They aren't its citizens.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:20 pm Due process was denied, the situation must be remedied.
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El Presidente Bukele sez he ain't cuttin' him loose. So, there probably won't be any future proceedings.That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with due process of law, including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings.
Guess it's time to impeach RED MAN DEFIANT...again.
Or empty the Office of El Presidente and install a more pliant person.
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Wow, why not just do your constitutional duty in accord with the oath sworn on a bible to obey and uphold the constitution?henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:42 pmEl Presidente Bukele sez he ain't cuttin' him loose. So, there probably won't be any future proceedings.That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with due process of law, including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings.
Guess it's time to impeach RED MAN DEFIANT...again.
Or empty the Office of El Presidente and install a more pliant person.
Bukele is paid to keep this guy in a prison, there's a contract, Art Of The DEAL Guy didn't sign up to a contract where he can't recall any of the prisoners he's sent over there did he?
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Hell if I know.Art Of The DEAL Guy didn't sign up to a contract where he can't recall any of the prisoners he's sent over there did he?
Google it and find out.
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No one does that. No one has for a very long time. No one will again.why not just do your constitutional duty
Why are you lettin' them boondoggle you?
You're smarter than that, Flash.
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No one disputes that. It’s the way in which it’s being carried out.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:09 pmI hate to tell you...one case does not signify whether or not the Federal Government has the power to deport. They do.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:01 pm This is the case of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia.
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Name two presidents that have lost in the SC and then simply refused to obey the order.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:13 pmNo one does that. No one has for a very long time. No one will again.why not just do your constitutional duty
Why are you lettin' them boondoggle you?
You're smarter than that, Flash.
I'll help you out. When Nixon was ordered to hand over the tapes that contained the damning evidence which he knew would have him not only impeached but removed from office, he handed them over. He didn't put his press secretary on a podium say that the Supreme Court could gargle dirty balls.
There is something new to this wilful rejection of the authority of courts to overrule the executive.