The fake divinity of a man and his single mother

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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:16 pm Danish blue!
Emborg's blue cheese, "Danablu", suspiciously looks like French Roquefort.
ChatGPT: When did Danablu appear?

Danablu (Danish Blue) was developed in the early 20th century, specifically around 1927. It was created by a Danish cheese maker named Marius Boel, who wanted to produce a Danish version of the famous French Roquefort cheese, using cow's milk instead of sheep’s milk.
Yes, I knew it. Utterly fake again. But then again, it is apparently a cheese that Emborg is allowed to sell even in Europe. All the other fakes are available only in Asia. Of course, I have tried them one by one, just to see how good Emborg is at faking. You can also buy the real French and Dutch stuff over here.
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accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:22 pm
godelian wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:26 am People abandon Christianity in droves. Fundamentally, that is inevitable. When things do not add up, you will eventually run out of illiterate peasants to bamboozle. So, yes, the longest-running scam in the history of mankind is finally running out of steam.
Better than idolising a paedophile.
I foed you probably for this rank Islamophobia, accelafine. It sees godelian's inaccurate description of Christianity (Judaism and Hinduism are older by a thousand years and then some), and raises it with all you bring to the table. That being WEIRD feminism? You won't catch many global majority flies with that, honey.

But I've unfoed you. For now, godelian has cleaned up his act in responding to me. Up on my old white man's plinth.
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godelian wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:29 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:16 pm Danish blue!
Emborg's blue cheese, "Danablu", suspiciously looks like French Roquefort.
ChatGPT: When did Danablu appear?

Danablu (Danish Blue) was developed in the early 20th century, specifically around 1927. It was created by a Danish cheese maker named Marius Boel, who wanted to produce a Danish version of the famous French Roquefort cheese, using cow's milk instead of sheep’s milk.
Yes, I knew it. Utterly fake again. But then again, it is apparently a cheese that Emborg is allowed to sell even in Europe. All the other fakes are available only in Asia. Of course, I have tried them one by one, just to see how good Emborg is at faking. You can also buy the real French and Dutch stuff over here.
I never touch Danish blue since discovering blue Stilton. Both inoculated with Penicillium roqueforti , but the latter is BRITISH and older by 200 years. Penicillium Roquefort is creamier. Have you discovered Stilton godelian? The blue then the white? The former, beloved of beloved Orwell, to be eaten with crackers, pears, celery, pickled walnuts and port. No fakery.
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Belinda wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:40 am
LuckyR wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:53 pm
godelian wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:26 am People abandon Christianity in droves. Fundamentally, that is inevitable. When things do not add up, you will eventually run out of illiterate peasants to bamboozle. So, yes, the longest-running scam in the history of mankind is finally running out of steam.
Actually, Christianity's popularity worldwide is relatively stable, Islam's is increasing, Hinduism and Buddhism are both stable, while atheism/agnosticism's dramatic rise, while slowing, is still increasing.

Though considering the sophistication of the average inhabitant of the planet, I'm not sure popularity is necessarily
evidence of quality.
Popularity is not evidence of quality. However the peculiar quality of Trinitarian Xity is that the Xian icon , Jesus, moves from age to age, culture to culture, and psyche to psyche.
Godelian has been subjected to inappropriate religious education, which understandably annoys him.
As it happens, the Forum member you referenced is not himself an interesting topic worthy of commentary, just you and I are not, in and of ourselves.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:46 pm
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:22 pm
godelian wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:26 am People abandon Christianity in droves. Fundamentally, that is inevitable. When things do not add up, you will eventually run out of illiterate peasants to bamboozle. So, yes, the longest-running scam in the history of mankind is finally running out of steam.
Better than idolising a paedophile.
I foed you probably for this rank Islamophobia, accelafine. It sees godelian's inaccurate description of Christianity (Judaism and Hinduism are older by a thousand years and then some), and raises it with all you bring to the table. That being WEIRD feminism? You won't catch many global majority flies with that, honey.

But I've unfoed you. For now, godelian has cleaned up his act in responding to me. Up on my old white man's plinth.
If I knew what any of that meant I might give a shit (but I doubt it) weird, woke old man. Don't throw your meaningless wokisms at me. 'Islam-hater' will do fine, sweetie-pie. As a man your tenderness towards such a misogynistic, male-worshipping ideology is understandable, but try to police my thoughts and silence me with your Newspeak and you will get them shoved right back down your throat.
Muhammad married a six year old girl. I'm pretty sure that qualifies as paedophilia today. And yes, it was a long time ago, but muslims still idolise this MAN, and old men marrying little girls is still a 'thing' in islam.
'Interesting' that I've never seen you call out godelian on his own rabid misogyny. Perhaps I missed those comments :wink:
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accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:58 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:46 pm
accelafine wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:22 pm

Better than idolising a paedophile.
I foed you probably for this rank Islamophobia, accelafine. It sees godelian's inaccurate description of Christianity (Judaism and Hinduism are older by a thousand years and then some), and raises it with all you bring to the table. That being WEIRD feminism? You won't catch many global majority flies with that, honey.

But I've unfoed you. For now, godelian has cleaned up his act in responding to me. Up on my old white man's plinth.
If I knew what any of that meant I might give a shit (but I doubt it) weird, woke old man. Don't throw your meaningless wokisms at me. 'Islam-hater' will do fine, sweetie-pie. As a man your tenderness towards such a misogynistic, male-worshipping ideology is understandable, but try to police my thoughts and silence me with your Newspeak and you will get them shoved right back down your throat.
Muhammad married a six year old girl. I'm pretty sure that qualifies as paedophilia today. And yes, it was a long time ago, but muslims still idolise this MAN, and old men marrying little girls is still a 'thing' in islam.
'Interesting' that I've never seen you call out godelian on his own rabid misogyny. Perhaps I missed those comments :wink:
My tenderness, such as it is, is to all. Some easier than others. Your good self obviously not. I live in a city where over a third of my fellow citizens are Muslims. I have worked for a Muslim business in retirement, after working in IT with a Muslim boss for seven years. I've also worked with a neo-Nazi. Never had a cross word from the initial mutually strong handshake, full eye contact and nod, why would we have? None of my Muslim colleagues, neighbours, friends, guests were old men married to little girls. Half of them were women after all. That's normal here, in the West. I called godelian out on that very thing, misogyny, in so many words, but you won't see that. I hate injustice. And I'm highly privileged like you. What's to do eh? The thing about hate, it's blind. Ignorant. Toxic. Un-nuanced. Primal. IDish. Easy. I dread to think what happened to you. In a man's world. I trust you're also a Jew, sorry Judaism-hater and a Christianity-hater, a Hinduism-hater. I've been an Islam-hater too. Who do you love?
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:56 pm
accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:58 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:46 pm

I foed you probably for this rank Islamophobia, accelafine. It sees godelian's inaccurate description of Christianity (Judaism and Hinduism are older by a thousand years and then some), and raises it with all you bring to the table. That being WEIRD feminism? You won't catch many global majority flies with that, honey.

But I've unfoed you. For now, godelian has cleaned up his act in responding to me. Up on my old white man's plinth.
If I knew what any of that meant I might give a shit (but I doubt it) weird, woke old man. Don't throw your meaningless wokisms at me. 'Islam-hater' will do fine, sweetie-pie. As a man your tenderness towards such a misogynistic, male-worshipping ideology is understandable, but try to police my thoughts and silence me with your Newspeak and you will get them shoved right back down your throat.
Muhammad married a six year old girl. I'm pretty sure that qualifies as paedophilia today. And yes, it was a long time ago, but muslims still idolise this MAN, and old men marrying little girls is still a 'thing' in islam.
'Interesting' that I've never seen you call out godelian on his own rabid misogyny. Perhaps I missed those comments :wink:
My tenderness, such as it is, is to all. Some easier than others. Your good self obviously not. I live in a city where over a third of my fellow citizens are Muslims. I have worked for a Muslim business in retirement, after working in IT with a Muslim boss for seven years. I've also worked with a neo-Nazi. Never had a cross word from the initial mutually strong handshake, full eye contact and nod, why would we have? None of my Muslim colleagues, neighbours, friends, guests were old men married to little girls. Half of them were women after all. That's normal here, in the West. I called godelian out on that very thing, misogyny, in so many words, but you won't see that. I hate injustice. And I'm highly privileged like you. What's to do eh? The thing about hate, it's blind. Ignorant. Toxic. Un-nuanced. Primal. IDish. Easy. I dread to think what happened to you. In a man's world. I trust you're also a Jew, sorry Judaism-hater and a Christianity-hater, a Hinduism-hater. I've been an Islam-hater too. Who do you love?
Phony drivel. You don't genuinely 'care' about anyone. If you did you would would be standing up for women and children instead of signalling your virtue with utter spiffle. Why would I give a shit if you have 'muslim friends'? Btw, a woman wouldn't be 'allowed' to 'shake hands' with your muslim boss and 'friends', strong handshake or not. Apparently we are too 'unclean' to touch muslims men. You are simply shallow, self-serving and rather thick. The perfect recipe for a wokie :D

ps. Did I say they ALL marry little girls? I'm saying it's condoned in islam. I'm assuming you are American. I'm pretty sure that marrying little girls is illegal over there, genius.
Your fake 'kindness' will be the end of us all.
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accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:18 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:56 pm
accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:58 pm

If I knew what any of that meant I might give a shit (but I doubt it) weird, woke old man. Don't throw your meaningless wokisms at me. 'Islam-hater' will do fine, sweetie-pie. As a man your tenderness towards such a misogynistic, male-worshipping ideology is understandable, but try to police my thoughts and silence me with your Newspeak and you will get them shoved right back down your throat.
Muhammad married a six year old girl. I'm pretty sure that qualifies as paedophilia today. And yes, it was a long time ago, but muslims still idolise this MAN, and old men marrying little girls is still a 'thing' in islam.
'Interesting' that I've never seen you call out godelian on his own rabid misogyny. Perhaps I missed those comments :wink:
My tenderness, such as it is, is to all. Some easier than others. Your good self obviously not. I live in a city where over a third of my fellow citizens are Muslims. I have worked for a Muslim business in retirement, after working in IT with a Muslim boss for seven years. I've also worked with a neo-Nazi. Never had a cross word from the initial mutually strong handshake, full eye contact and nod, why would we have? None of my Muslim colleagues, neighbours, friends, guests were old men married to little girls. Half of them were women after all. That's normal here, in the West. I called godelian out on that very thing, misogyny, in so many words, but you won't see that. I hate injustice. And I'm highly privileged like you. What's to do eh? The thing about hate, it's blind. Ignorant. Toxic. Un-nuanced. Primal. IDish. Easy. I dread to think what happened to you. In a man's world. I trust you're also a Jew, sorry Judaism-hater and a Christianity-hater, a Hinduism-hater. I've been an Islam-hater too. Who do you love?
Phony drivel. You don't genuinely 'care' about anyone. If you did you would would be standing up for women and children instead of signalling your virtue with utter spiffle. You are simply shallow, self-serving and rather thick. The perfect recipe for a wokie :D

ps. Did I say they ALL marry little girls? I'm saying it's condoned in islam. I'm assuming you are American. I'm pretty sure that marrying little girls is illegal over there, genius.
Your fake 'kindness' will be the end of us all.
Like many here I'm MENSA and British as per Stilton, but intelligence, education, experience count for nothing I know, up against a rabid true believer. How should I stand up for women and children? I have tried to make amends to my women and children. In the sixth richest country on Earth with the worst child poverty in Europe. How do you? I'm sorry how the horrors of being helplessly privileged and relatively powerless by your sex have affected you. So, you care for, love women and girls. Including happily devout bourgeois Muslims?
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:28 pm
accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:18 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:56 pm

My tenderness, such as it is, is to all. Some easier than others. Your good self obviously not. I live in a city where over a third of my fellow citizens are Muslims. I have worked for a Muslim business in retirement, after working in IT with a Muslim boss for seven years. I've also worked with a neo-Nazi. Never had a cross word from the initial mutually strong handshake, full eye contact and nod, why would we have? None of my Muslim colleagues, neighbours, friends, guests were old men married to little girls. Half of them were women after all. That's normal here, in the West. I called godelian out on that very thing, misogyny, in so many words, but you won't see that. I hate injustice. And I'm highly privileged like you. What's to do eh? The thing about hate, it's blind. Ignorant. Toxic. Un-nuanced. Primal. IDish. Easy. I dread to think what happened to you. In a man's world. I trust you're also a Jew, sorry Judaism-hater and a Christianity-hater, a Hinduism-hater. I've been an Islam-hater too. Who do you love?
Phony drivel. You don't genuinely 'care' about anyone. If you did you would would be standing up for women and children instead of signalling your virtue with utter spiffle. You are simply shallow, self-serving and rather thick. The perfect recipe for a wokie :D

ps. Did I say they ALL marry little girls? I'm saying it's condoned in islam. I'm assuming you are American. I'm pretty sure that marrying little girls is illegal over there, genius.
Your fake 'kindness' will be the end of us all.
Like many here I'm MENSA and British as per Stilton, but intelligence, education, experience count for nothing I know, up against a rabid true believer. How should I stand up for women and children? I have tried to make amends to my women and children. In the sixth richest country on Earth with the worst child poverty in Europe? How do you?
Oh that's right, you're the one who's always 'MENSA'-dropping :lol:

What do you mean, YOUR women and children? I doubt if you are English. Your English skills are terrible.
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accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:31 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:28 pm
accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:18 pm

Phony drivel. You don't genuinely 'care' about anyone. If you did you would would be standing up for women and children instead of signalling your virtue with utter spiffle. You are simply shallow, self-serving and rather thick. The perfect recipe for a wokie :D

ps. Did I say they ALL marry little girls? I'm saying it's condoned in islam. I'm assuming you are American. I'm pretty sure that marrying little girls is illegal over there, genius.
Your fake 'kindness' will be the end of us all.
Like many here I'm MENSA and British as per Stilton, but intelligence, education, experience count for nothing I know, up against a rabid true believer. How should I stand up for women and children? I have tried to make amends to my women and children. In the sixth richest country on Earth with the worst child poverty in Europe? How do you?
Oh that's right, you're the one who's always 'MENSA'-dropping :lol:

What do you mean, YOUR women and children? I doubt if you are English. Your English skills are terrible.
Sorry? In what way? I've been English for 1400 years at least. And MENSA, yes, I assume that everyone on a philosophy site is highly intelligent and very well educated. Like me. Please correct my English skills with your superior technique. Always eh? Twice. And fully justified.
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Then you would have seen the muslim man who refused to shake the hand of Princess Catherine the woke, in her wokie head scarf.
England is ****ed.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:34 pm
accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:31 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:28 pm

Like many here I'm MENSA and British as per Stilton, but intelligence, education, experience count for nothing I know, up against a rabid true believer. How should I stand up for women and children? I have tried to make amends to my women and children. In the sixth richest country on Earth with the worst child poverty in Europe? How do you?
Oh that's right, you're the one who's always 'MENSA'-dropping :lol:

What do you mean, YOUR women and children? I doubt if you are English. Your English skills are terrible.
Sorry? In what way? I've been English for 1400 years at least. And MENSA, yes, I assume that everyone on a philosophy site is highly intelligent and very well educated. Like me. Please correct my English skills with your superior technique.
But you aren't intelligent. That's pretty clear. You do realise that anyone can say anything on the internet don't you? It's a bit like those chat rooms you frequent where you pretend to be a 12 year old boy.
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accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:36 pm Then you would have seen the muslim man who refused to shake the hand of Princess Catherine the wokie, in her wokie head scarf.
England is ****ed.
Muslim men do not shake hands with women full stop. As a rule. Which is breaking down here. I never offer to shake hands with a Muslima, but have been pleasantly surprised when they have offered. Is that your superior English?
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accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:38 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:34 pm
accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:31 pm

Oh that's right, you're the one who's always 'MENSA'-dropping :lol:

What do you mean, YOUR women and children? I doubt if you are English. Your English skills are terrible.
Sorry? In what way? I've been English for 1400 years at least. And MENSA, yes, I assume that everyone on a philosophy site is highly intelligent and very well educated. Like me. Please correct my English skills with your superior technique.
But you aren't intelligent. That's pretty clear. You do realise that anyone can say anything on the internet don't you? It's a bit like those chat rooms you frequent where you pretend to be a 12 year old boy.
You know all things obviously. But I'm not paid enough to lie to you. But with your superior intellect, you knew that. I'm a 70 year old white male MENSA member. Why would I lie about that or anything else? In my experience nearly everything people say is true, but it isn't the truth.

PS Late in life, having gone full atheist just 5 years ago at the age of 65, I'm drinking at the fire hose of philosophy. What brings you here?

PPS You see, I do believe that we can actually all walk naked together and it's OK. It's safe. It's helpful. It's what we're here for.

PPPS I'm intrigued as to how you know that I'm not intelligent? Can you explain that to me? Or is it an intellectualist thing. I couldn't possibly understand?

PPPPS And how does any of this relate to the false thread title? Mary was never a single mother.
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Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:46 pm
accelafine wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:38 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:34 pm

Sorry? In what way? I've been English for 1400 years at least. And MENSA, yes, I assume that everyone on a philosophy site is highly intelligent and very well educated. Like me. Please correct my English skills with your superior technique.
But you aren't intelligent. That's pretty clear. You do realise that anyone can say anything on the internet don't you? It's a bit like those chat rooms you frequent where you pretend to be a 12 year old boy.
You know all things obviously. But I'm not paid enough to lie to you. But with your superior intellect, you knew that. I'm a 70 year old white male MENSA member. Why would I lie about that or anything else? In my experience nearly everything people say is true, but it isn't the truth.

PS Late in life, having gone full atheist just 5 years ago at the age of 65, I'm drinking at the fire hose of philosophy. What brings you here?

PPS You see, I do believe that we can actually all walk naked together and it's OK. It's safe. It's helpful. It's what we're here for.
I need a shower now 🤮
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