This is a non sequitur. Anyone familiar with logic knows that disliking the idea of Islamizing America is not identical wanting to Americanize Islam. It has nothing to do with reducing anything to a product. Anti-islamac bigotry and laws are far more draconian in Europe than in America.Pistolero wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:50 pm Therefore, diversity is a lie.
You want Islam Americanized....like only the food and the garments....the superficial stuff.
Nothing applied...except kneeling and praying....nothing important.
That's what I said.
American reduces everything to a product.
Bye now.
Americanism
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This might be of interest to others:Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:21 pm The book Religious Attitudes of the Indo-Europeans might be of interest to some.
"Hans Friedrich Karl Günther (16 February 1891 – 25 September 1968) was a German writer, an advocate of scientific racism and a eugenicist in the Weimar Republic and the Third Reich. He was also known as "Rassengünther" ("Race Günther") or "Rassenpapst" ("Race Pope"). He is considered to have been a major influence on Nazi racialist thought." wiki
Now, what is still of interest to me is how AJ and others of his ilk here would enforce [politically, legally] their own dogmatic "natural" philosophy. In other words, if they encompassed that power here in America.
In other words, how far do Trump and Musk still have to go here in America before they reflect the racialist policies that AJ and his ilk?
Then the part where I ask him to note what Hitler got right and what Hitler got wrong regarding his own views on race.
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There is, speaking honestly and in my own opinion, nothing at all intrinsically wrong with analysis of racial differences. I am ultra-aware of why it is problematic to say anything on the topic though. But that is something that should be studied itself: how it came about that it became an evil topic. The fact of the matter is that the topic was considered completely normal up to approximately WWll. Afterward there took shape a tremendous ideological revision.
As a result I think of Nietzsche (predominantly) many intellectuals at the turn of the century and before and after the First WW were very interested in topics that we now feel to be forbidden.
Aldous Huxley wrote Proper Studies in the Interwar period. This is a radical book. The ideas in it do not mess around. It would be labeled fascistic in our present. But when I read it I thought it was “realistic”. It did assault my established sensibilities though.
However, after the startling events of the Second WW even an intellectual like Huxley seemed to back away from former, aggressive social analysis.
You place me in an odd sort of “check” Iambiguous. You went for the biographical background of the man, gleaned a negative prejudiced idea about the man, and now you present that as a moral obstruction to encountering the work itself.
The work is part of a current of a cultural will to rediscover European paganism. Many different intellectuals were working in this area. And one must also understand that that work and many others in that vein were part, and are still part, of a movement defining alternatives to Christian belief.
As a result I think of Nietzsche (predominantly) many intellectuals at the turn of the century and before and after the First WW were very interested in topics that we now feel to be forbidden.
Aldous Huxley wrote Proper Studies in the Interwar period. This is a radical book. The ideas in it do not mess around. It would be labeled fascistic in our present. But when I read it I thought it was “realistic”. It did assault my established sensibilities though.
However, after the startling events of the Second WW even an intellectual like Huxley seemed to back away from former, aggressive social analysis.
You place me in an odd sort of “check” Iambiguous. You went for the biographical background of the man, gleaned a negative prejudiced idea about the man, and now you present that as a moral obstruction to encountering the work itself.
The work is part of a current of a cultural will to rediscover European paganism. Many different intellectuals were working in this area. And one must also understand that that work and many others in that vein were part, and are still part, of a movement defining alternatives to Christian belief.
Re: Americanism
So diversity is not a strength is it?Alexiev wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:54 pmThis is a non sequitur. Anyone familiar with logic knows that disliking the idea of Islamizing America is not identical wanting to Americanize Islam. It has nothing to do with reducing anything to a product. Anti-islamac bigotry and laws are far more draconian in Europe than in America.Pistolero wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:50 pm Therefore, diversity is a lie.
You want Islam Americanized....like only the food and the garments....the superficial stuff.
Nothing applied...except kneeling and praying....nothing important.
That's what I said.
American reduces everything to a product.
Bye now.
Americanism reduces everything to its American values....It creates uniformity.....with the appearance of diversity.
It does not accept racial diversity.
It does not accept sexual nor any biologically based diversity, when it comes of humans.
All are reduced to the same....and diversity is superficial....a fashion.....a menu option
And it attempted to impose its model on the entire world - it is messianic, globalizing. It didn't just practice it itself, allowing others to determine their own fate. No.
It wanted to impose its model on the entire globe....eradicating every other culture to a fashion someone could purchase and then replace....
Its model had to be the world's model.
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Should an ideology be judged on its theory, or on its practice?
Has the US actually been a true democracy, or has it become a Plutocracy, masking as a Democracy....using Democracy as an excuse to impose its will upon those that resist.
It doesn't mind Totalitarian regimes that pay their dues, i.e., homage, and remain disciplined to its will....the will of its elites....
All theories are perfect, in theory.
Is it democratic when money determines elections, and political optinos are a duo of the same?
Dozens of chip brands to choose from....but only two, actually one, political option.
Both bought and owned by the same groups - the handlers....deep State....the men behind the corporations that fund their lifestyles and their campaigns.
This is the model that had to be emulated by the entire world?
Has the US actually been a true democracy, or has it become a Plutocracy, masking as a Democracy....using Democracy as an excuse to impose its will upon those that resist.
It doesn't mind Totalitarian regimes that pay their dues, i.e., homage, and remain disciplined to its will....the will of its elites....
All theories are perfect, in theory.
Is it democratic when money determines elections, and political optinos are a duo of the same?
Dozens of chip brands to choose from....but only two, actually one, political option.
Both bought and owned by the same groups - the handlers....deep State....the men behind the corporations that fund their lifestyles and their campaigns.
This is the model that had to be emulated by the entire world?
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What is Gad Sad compelling his fellow Jews to do, now that the Jig is up and Americans are realizing who is behind the scenes?
To all Jews around the world....
When a parasite kills its host, it looks for a new one...
They will change their names, appropriate Han genes to pass as one of them....then they will rise to the top of particular Chinese power institutions using the same methods, e.g., tribal nepotism, and begin the process anew.
They will spread within Chinese society ideas that turn them against their own, hiding behind proxies.
Patterns.....behavioral patterns expose the nature of life...its essence.
This is not the first time....it is the 110 time....
Ironically Gad Saad wrote a book on "parasitical ideas".....
He knows because he is a carrier.
To all Jews around the world....
When a parasite kills its host, it looks for a new one...
They will change their names, appropriate Han genes to pass as one of them....then they will rise to the top of particular Chinese power institutions using the same methods, e.g., tribal nepotism, and begin the process anew.
They will spread within Chinese society ideas that turn them against their own, hiding behind proxies.
Patterns.....behavioral patterns expose the nature of life...its essence.
This is not the first time....it is the 110 time....
Ironically Gad Saad wrote a book on "parasitical ideas".....
He knows because he is a carrier.
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What does Hillary Clinton say about free-speech....propaganda?
Hillary Clinton announced Americans spreading “propaganda” should be sent to prison.
The only propaganda must be state sanctioned and approved.
So much for free-speech.
Hillary Clinton announced Americans spreading “propaganda” should be sent to prison.
The only propaganda must be state sanctioned and approved.
So much for free-speech.
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What on Earth does any of the above have to do with this...Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:31 pm There is, speaking honestly and in my own opinion, nothing at all intrinsically wrong with analysis of racial differences. I am ultra-aware of why it is problematic to say anything on the topic though. But that is something that should be studied itself: how it came about that it became an evil topic. The fact of the matter is that the topic was considered completely normal up to approximately WWll. Afterward there took shape a tremendous ideological revision.
As a result I think of Nietzsche (predominantly) many intellectuals at the turn of the century and before and after the First WW were very interested in topics that we now feel to be forbidden.
Aldous Huxley wrote Proper Studies in the Interwar period. This is a radical book. The ideas in it do not mess around. It would be labeled fascistic in our present. But when I read it I thought it was “realistic”. It did assault my established sensibilities though.
However, after the startling events of the Second WW even an intellectual like Huxley seemed to back away from former, aggressive social analysis.
You place me in an odd sort of “check” Iambiguous. You went for the biographical background of the man, gleaned a negative prejudiced idea about the man, and now you present that as a moral obstruction to encountering the work itself.
"Hans Friedrich Karl Günther (16 February 1891 – 25 September 1968) was a German writer, an advocate of scientific racism and a eugenicist in the Weimar Republic and the Third Reich. He was also known as "Rassengünther" ("Race Günther") or "Rassenpapst" ("Race Pope"). He is considered to have been a major influence on Nazi racialist thought." wiki
Now, what is still of interest to me is how AJ and others of his ilk here would enforce [politically, legally] their own dogmatic "natural" philosophy. In other words, if they encompassed that power here in America.
In other words, how far do Trump and Musk still have to go here in America before they reflect the racialist policies that AJ and his ilk subscribe to?
Then the part where I ask him to note what Hitler got right and what Hitler got wrong regarding his own views on race.
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Joe Rogan and Dillon on Palestine...
Comedian Tim Dillon speaks about Douglas Murray and the wars in Ukraine and Gaza on Joe Rogan’s podcast.
This is how propaganda works, in the states. You hire a bunch of shills like Murray....you pay for their lifestyle, their trips to Israel, where you teach them the talking points. Then you unleash them on the media circuit.
Look into the Youtuber Leather Apron Club.
He surveys the representation of guest on a variety of podcasts.
Notice the over-representation of one group....despite it being less than 2% of the US population.
Here's a link to a sample....on Jordan Peterson guests...
The Curious Case of Jordan Peterson's Guests | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 2
This is an example of how propaganda works in the United States....inconspicuously and insidiously.
Here is a sample of Sam Harris' guest list...
What do SAM HARRIS' guests all have in common? | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 1
Here's another....
Let's talk about RUSSEL BRAND and his Guests | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 5
When Joe Rogan has less of that ethnicity on his podcast, he is reprimanded by the system's shills, like Murray.
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What of the extreme over-representation of that exact same tribe....in Hollywood....in Legacy Media....in key power positions of the state...
Comedian Tim Dillon speaks about Douglas Murray and the wars in Ukraine and Gaza on Joe Rogan’s podcast.
This is how propaganda works, in the states. You hire a bunch of shills like Murray....you pay for their lifestyle, their trips to Israel, where you teach them the talking points. Then you unleash them on the media circuit.
Look into the Youtuber Leather Apron Club.
He surveys the representation of guest on a variety of podcasts.
Notice the over-representation of one group....despite it being less than 2% of the US population.
Here's a link to a sample....on Jordan Peterson guests...
The Curious Case of Jordan Peterson's Guests | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 2
This is an example of how propaganda works in the United States....inconspicuously and insidiously.
Here is a sample of Sam Harris' guest list...
What do SAM HARRIS' guests all have in common? | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 1
Here's another....
Let's talk about RUSSEL BRAND and his Guests | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 5
When Joe Rogan has less of that ethnicity on his podcast, he is reprimanded by the system's shills, like Murray.
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What of the extreme over-representation of that exact same tribe....in Hollywood....in Legacy Media....in key power positions of the state...
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Don't mind Mary...Miss Land believes that merely mentioning that someone is a German, or a crytpo-Nazi, is an argument in itself.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:31 pm There is, speaking honestly and in my own opinion, nothing at all intrinsically wrong with analysis of racial differences. I am ultra-aware of why it is problematic to say anything on the topic though. But that is something that should be studied itself: how it came about that it became an evil topic. The fact of the matter is that the topic was considered completely normal up to approximately WWll. Afterward there took shape a tremendous ideological revision.
As a result I think of Nietzsche (predominantly) many intellectuals at the turn of the century and before and after the First WW were very interested in topics that we now feel to be forbidden.
Aldous Huxley wrote Proper Studies in the Interwar period. This is a radical book. The ideas in it do not mess around. It would be labeled fascistic in our present. But when I read it I thought it was “realistic”. It did assault my established sensibilities though.
However, after the startling events of the Second WW even an intellectual like Huxley seemed to back away from former, aggressive social analysis.
You place me in an odd sort of “check” Iambiguous. You went for the biographical background of the man, gleaned a negative prejudiced idea about the man, and now you present that as a moral obstruction to encountering the work itself.
The work is part of a current of a cultural will to rediscover European paganism. Many different intellectuals were working in this area. And one must also understand that that work and many others in that vein were part, and are still part, of a movement defining alternatives to Christian belief.
This is her style....no substance...just allusions, emotionally triggering sarcasm....
She has no arguments. Only emotion triggering words - Pavlovian.
Miss Land is fractured and fragmented by emotions.
Good vs Evil...and she pretends to be amoral.
This is how confused she is.
Her objective....Collectivism.
She's a new age Marxist..a postmodern.
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My Appearance on Joe Rogan's Podcast
Response to Eric Weinstein's commentary on free-speech as it pertains to Leather Apron Club's awareness of a particular tribe's extreme over-representation in the media.
Response to Eric Weinstein's commentary on free-speech as it pertains to Leather Apron Club's awareness of a particular tribe's extreme over-representation in the media.
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I’d like to help you out. But your question is too general. What specifically are you confused about?iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:17 am What on Earth does any of the above have to do with this...
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Wiggle, Wiggle, Wiggle, it is then.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:45 amI’d like to help you out. But your question is too general. What specifically are you confused about?iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:17 am What on Earth does any of the above have to do with this...
Re: Americanism
Joe Rogan and Dillon on Palestine...
Comedian Tim Dillon speaks about Douglas Murray and the wars in Ukraine and Gaza on Joe Rogan’s podcast.
This is how propaganda works, in the states. You hire a bunch of shills like Murray....you pay for their lifestyle, their trips to Israel, where you teach them the talking points. Then you unleash them on the media circuit.
Look into the Youtuber Leather Apron Club.
He surveys the representation of guest on a variety of podcasts.
Notice the over-representation of one group....despite it being less than 2% of the US population.
Here's a link to a sample....on Jordan Peterson guests...
The Curious Case of Jordan Peterson's Guests | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 2
This is an example of how propaganda works in the United States....inconspicuously and insidiously.
Here is a sample of Sam Harris' guest list...
What do SAM HARRIS' guests all have in common? | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 1
Here's another....
Let's talk about RUSSEL BRAND and his Guests | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 5
When Joe Rogan has less of that ethnicity on his podcast, he is reprimanded by the system's shills, like Murray.
----------------
What of the extreme over-representation of that exact same tribe....in Hollywood....in Legacy Media....in key power positions of the state...
Comedian Tim Dillon speaks about Douglas Murray and the wars in Ukraine and Gaza on Joe Rogan’s podcast.
This is how propaganda works, in the states. You hire a bunch of shills like Murray....you pay for their lifestyle, their trips to Israel, where you teach them the talking points. Then you unleash them on the media circuit.
Look into the Youtuber Leather Apron Club.
He surveys the representation of guest on a variety of podcasts.
Notice the over-representation of one group....despite it being less than 2% of the US population.
Here's a link to a sample....on Jordan Peterson guests...
The Curious Case of Jordan Peterson's Guests | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 2
This is an example of how propaganda works in the United States....inconspicuously and insidiously.
Here is a sample of Sam Harris' guest list...
What do SAM HARRIS' guests all have in common? | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 1
Here's another....
Let's talk about RUSSEL BRAND and his Guests | MEDIA REPRESENTATION WEEK PART 5
When Joe Rogan has less of that ethnicity on his podcast, he is reprimanded by the system's shills, like Murray.
----------------
What of the extreme over-representation of that exact same tribe....in Hollywood....in Legacy Media....in key power positions of the state...
Re: Americanism
As long as America controlled the narratives, by dominating media in the west, it could afford to tolerate free-speech.
Every simpleton would repeat the same things, disagreeing on the details.
Nobody questioned the veracity of the information, or the trustworthiness of the source....this was assumed to be reliable, motivated by the most noble ideals.
Chomsky exposed how media works and how media corporations allow "reporters" to speak their mind, once they've vetted them, and placed them in positions where they can address a large audience.
With the advent of the internet they began losing control of the narratives.
They still try, and marketing is how they promote those they desire to be on the forefront.
Douglas Murray, recently critiqued Joe Rogan for having more anti-Israel guests on his show....he never went to the other podcasters to critique them for having, on average, more Jews on their show.
Watch Leather Apron Club, on youtiube or odysee for his statistical analysis.
It's a huge over-representation that can only be explained one way....tribal nepotism.
And why are there so many Jews in Hollywood...even actors. Are they more talented.
Who hired Godot....she's pretty but a terrible actress. How did she get the gig.
Could they not find a talented and pretty goy actress?
Who made Seth Rogan so popular?
What is his talent, other than being a Jew?
Adam Sandler....how did he get on SNL, and then make so many movies?
Is he even funny...or is he connected?
Every simpleton would repeat the same things, disagreeing on the details.
Nobody questioned the veracity of the information, or the trustworthiness of the source....this was assumed to be reliable, motivated by the most noble ideals.
Chomsky exposed how media works and how media corporations allow "reporters" to speak their mind, once they've vetted them, and placed them in positions where they can address a large audience.
With the advent of the internet they began losing control of the narratives.
They still try, and marketing is how they promote those they desire to be on the forefront.
Douglas Murray, recently critiqued Joe Rogan for having more anti-Israel guests on his show....he never went to the other podcasters to critique them for having, on average, more Jews on their show.
Watch Leather Apron Club, on youtiube or odysee for his statistical analysis.
It's a huge over-representation that can only be explained one way....tribal nepotism.
And why are there so many Jews in Hollywood...even actors. Are they more talented.
Who hired Godot....she's pretty but a terrible actress. How did she get the gig.
Could they not find a talented and pretty goy actress?
Who made Seth Rogan so popular?
What is his talent, other than being a Jew?
Adam Sandler....how did he get on SNL, and then make so many movies?
Is he even funny...or is he connected?