How do you block someone on here?

[promethean75]

"Show me what you have ever done for the blind"

Well, ya just blew it, Phil. Maia loathes handicapped people and wants nothing to do with them or their enablers.

[Phil8659]

"Show me what you have ever done for the blind"

Well, ya just blew it, Phil. Maia loathes handicapped people and wants nothing to do with them or their enablers.

Another asshole who speaks in the name of others, what, you enabling her now? jackass.

And, that pdf file is known around the world as Great Literature, and it is not in image format, it is in SVG format so Adobe and Foxit can read it perfectly and it loads quickly. Bunch of assholes.

So if she wants to be treated like everyone else, then all of you contradict yourselves and too stupid to realize it.

[promethean75]

Rumor has it that Maia once pushed an old woman in a wheelchair down a flght of subway steps right after mouthing obscenities to a group of deaf people after she moved the bench a blind guy was sitting on who got up to get a soda from the machine. And all this was before she blasted seven kids in a special olympics race with a garden hose as they were running on the school track behind her back fence.

[attofishpi]

Rumor has it that Maia once pushed an old woman in a wheelchair down a flght of subway steps right after mouthing obscenities to a group of deaf people after she moved the bench a blind guy was sitting on who got up to get a soda from the machine. And all this was before she blasted seven kids in a special olympics race with a garden hose as they were running on the school track behind her back fence.

Americans have a strange sense of "humour" - Monty Python & English in general have a strange sense of humour, but it's the type of humour that is actually funny.

Sorry Prom, but that was shite.

[promethean75]

"And, that pdf file is known around the world"

I saw a Plato pdf somewhere back there... is that what you mean?

Here's my problem, boss. My philosophy neurons are MAXed out, and i don't have the neruplasticity to reconfigure, alter, or modify my perceived certainties. For example, no matter what i read, I'll never be able to be convinced that a Marxist style economy wouldn't be better than a capitalist style economy. This is not my fault. It's my brain's.

Also, as a post-structural post-modern post-anarchist post-Derridaean, i am no longer skeptical of all text and can be convinced if almost anything if it is written well. That being said, whatever that pdf is, there's another one sayin' it's wrong (or there will be one eventually), so i can't know what to believe.

I concern myself with simple things like an epicurean zen master now. The left shoe goes on the left foot. Fine weather makes for good working conditions. Adding cheese to toasted garlic bread isn't a bad idea. It's always good to stretch your hamstrings. And you can't just put your foot up on the kitchen counter for a second and then call it done. No, you gotta lean into it until it hurts and hold that bitch. And don't bounce. They say it's not good to bounce. Find the pain threshold and then hold that sonofabitch for like a minute.

[promethean75]

"Sorry Prom, but that was shite."

My humor can sometimes be characterized as sardonic, macabre, risqué, hyperbolic, lightly morbid even. I'm that guy who will try to push the limits and do the unacceptable thing just to see what happens.

Remember when Serge was in high school and used to stand outside the school cafeteria and punch people in the stomach when they came out and then took notes on what happened? Same kinda thing.

[attofishpi]

"Sorry Prom, but that was shite."

My humor can sometimes be characterized as sardonic, macabre, risqué, hyperbolic, lightly morbid even. I'm that guy who will try to push the limits and do the unacceptable thing just to see what happens.

Remember when Serge was in high school and used to stand outside the school cafeteria and punch people in the stomach when they came out and then took notes on what happened? Same kinda thing.

So long as it's funny then I would categorise it as humour. Not sure who Serge was, but in my old school, St Georges, he'd soon lack the ability to take any notes.

[accelafine]

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[Maia]

"And, that pdf file is known around the world"

I saw a Plato pdf somewhere back there... is that what you mean?

Here's my problem, boss. My philosophy neurons are MAXed out, and i don't have the neruplasticity to reconfigure, alter, or modify my perceived certainties. For example, no matter what i read, I'll never be able to be convinced that a Marxist style economy wouldn't be better than a capitalist style economy. This is not my fault. It's my brain's.

Also, as a post-structural post-modern post-anarchist post-Derridaean, i am no longer skeptical of all text and can be convinced if almost anything if it is written well. That being said, whatever that pdf is, there's another one sayin' it's wrong (or there will be one eventually), so i can't know what to believe.

I concern myself with simple things like an epicurean zen master now. The left shoe goes on the left foot. Fine weather makes for good working conditions. Adding cheese to toasted garlic bread isn't a bad idea. It's always good to stretch your hamstrings. And you can't just put your foot up on the kitchen counter for a second and then call it done. No, you gotta lean into it until it hurts and hold that bitch. And don't bounce. They say it's not good to bounce. Find the pain threshold and then hold that sonofabitch for like a minute.

+++Adding cheese to toasted garlic bread isn't a bad idea.+++

Try Stilton. I always put a little bit of it in everything I make. Well, almost always. It doesn't go too well on a trifle, admittedly.

[Maia]

"Sorry Prom, but that was shite."

My humor can sometimes be characterized as sardonic, macabre, risqué, hyperbolic, lightly morbid even. I'm that guy who will try to push the limits and do the unacceptable thing just to see what happens.

Remember when Serge was in high school and used to stand outside the school cafeteria and punch people in the stomach when they came out and then took notes on what happened? Same kinda thing.

So long as it's funny then I would categorise it as humour. Not sure who Serge was, but in my old school, St Georges, he'd soon lack the ability to take any notes.

I believe it's a character from some novel he read.

Yes, I agree that if something is funny, one can forgive pretty much anything else. The trick is, to actually make it funny.

[promethean75]

Certainly. Making jokes involving the disadvantaged (those people Maia was messing with in the joke) is risky for a comedian... or wanna-be comedian like me. If you do it, the disadvantaged have to a) not present, and b) not suffer deadly fatalities at the end of the joke. If these conditions are not met, the joke goes overboard and becomes tasteless.

I bet if Will Smith's wife wasn't there and Rock cracked that joke, Smith wouldn't have smacked him. Call it the secret pact of the audience. They are allowed to indulge in the brutal humor without feeling guilty in front of its victims.

Or, you wouldn't crack a KFC fried chicken joke at a missionary in Zimbabwe where nobody weighs more than 64 lbs. You could crack it at a club in New York, though.

Now, in Maia's case, i thought the lead joke was kinda funny myself because of the obvious irony (i like irony): a blind girl has it out for handicapped people. One doesn't expect the assailant to be handicapped herself.

... I'm not calling you that, Maia, you know what i mean; what blind people are called in society... or at least until that phrase was/is considered impolite. Visually impaired sounds better and without condescension, anyway. A legless person doesn't mind being called handicapped i wouldn't think, but deaf, mute, or blind people might mind.

So the joke was an elbow nudge to Maia in reference to her not liking being thought of as 'unable to make her way' or handicapped.

So you have a nudge in the form of an irony pushed to its logical extreme in a joke; Maia is normal and not only that... she hates handicapped people, too. Who would have thought?

No? I got nothing? Not even after i explained the dynamics of the joke?

Ah! Here's what happened. The timing was bad. The mood of the thread was sour because of something between Phil and fishpie. So, when i dropped the joke, it wasn't received well at all.

[promethean75]

Maia gets extra credit for not being offended though because her reader is going to read the joke in a flat inhuman robot voice and make it sound even more dreadful. Like Hawking's voice would read it: SHE PUSH-DA LAA-DY IN-A WHEEL-CHAIR, Etc.

[Walker]

Or, you wouldn't crack a KFC fried chicken joke at a missionary in Zimbabwe where nobody weighs more than 64 lbs. You could crack it at a club in New York, though.

Don Rickles made a career out the same types of jokes. He often used hyperbolic racism, which was part of the shock humour, but he could offend any untouchable.

Times when they fought racism with jokes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7q4fRPmxAY

He was blocked by the Grim Reaper but “made in the image of” invented electronics, and Don lives on.

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I think Maia's compassionate response was the perfect prompt for your interesting contemplation. Rickles made it funny, which required more than words.

People paid him tribute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_XYnjH43eM

[Maia]

Maia gets extra credit for not being offended though because her reader is going to read the joke in a flat inhuman robot voice and make it sound even more dreadful. Like Hawking's voice would read it: SHE PUSH-DA LAA-DY IN-A WHEEL-CHAIR, Etc.

I prefer "handicapable" meaning that although I have a handicap, I'm also perfectly capable...

Nah, that was a joke. Actually, the preferred euphemism in the UK is disabled. A handicap is something that horses have, in races. I never usually refer to myself as disabled, though, except for official, legal purposes, but, hypocrite that I am, one might say, I'm happy to use it of other people, including our clients at work, most of whom have a disability of one sort of another, such as having to use a wheelchair, or having dementia, or going deaf or blind, or whatever. Indeed, we even force those who can walk into wheelchairs, to play wheelchair netball. Personally, I prefer plain speaking. There's an organisation here called the RNIB, which used to stand for the Royal National Institute for the Blind, but now stands for the Royal National Institute of Blind People. As I've pointed out to them, more than once, surely that should therefore be the RNIBP? And that's just the problem. If you keep changing things, then how are people expected to keep up? People often feel awkward enough, around blind people, worried about saying the wrong thing, which is really stupid, without having the extra worry of accidentally using a term that's now considered to be old fashioned or offensive. I don't see eye to eye, as it were, with the RNIB, on quite a lot of issues, and that's the very least of them, but it's emblematic, I think, of a wider dumbing down and bowdlerisation of language.

As for humour, I think you're well aware that I have no problem with jokes about blindness, and will often tell them myself. Indeed, I do it as a way of breaking the ice, if I think that someone is feeling uncomfortable around me, and if someone else tells such a joke, it shows that they are not feeling uncomfortable, or worried about offending me, or whatever it is they think might happen if they say the wrong thing. So yes, even if something is gut-wrenchingly unfunny, such as some of your own jokes, Prom, it's still perfectly obvious if something is intended as humour, or to deliberately cause offense.

Well, that was a bit of a rant, wasn't it?

[Age]

Maia gets extra credit for not being offended though because her reader is going to read the joke in a flat inhuman robot voice and make it sound even more dreadful. Like Hawking's voice would read it: SHE PUSH-DA LAA-DY IN-A WHEEL-CHAIR, Etc.

I prefer "handicapable" meaning that although I have a handicap, I'm also perfectly capable...

if most humans were born with three or four arms, then those with two arms would be classed and called 'handicap', and 'disable', as well. Although humans with two arms are obviously 'capable', and not 'disabled'. Exactly like every human body is 'capable' of doing, different, things.

And, just like you prefer 'handicapable', I also look abilities, instead of disabilities. For example one who has been blind from birth can cross busy streets in the middle of busy cities, which is some thing that i would not do and may well never have the courage to do with eyes shut. To me those that do walk around cities without vision are what I consider the truly brave, and which far exceeds those who are called and labeled brave for just entering burning buildings or jumping into rivers to save children from death, for example.

If 'we' are going to class some with a 'disability', then add 'me' to the list as it is i who would not walk around a city if i could not visually see. Those who do, without vision, are far, far, far more 'able' than i am, or maybe ever could be.

Nah, that was a joke. Actually, the preferred euphemism in the UK is disabled. A handicap is something that horses have, in races. I never usually refer to myself as disabled, though, except for official, legal purposes, but, hypocrite that I am, one might say, I'm happy to use it of other people, including our clients at work, most of whom have a disability of one sort of another, such as having to use a wheelchair, or having dementia, or going deaf or blind, or whatever.

But, if these listed human beings are more able to do particular things, then others around them are, then who, exactly, are the so-called 'disabled' ones?

Indeed, we even force those who can walk into wheelchairs, to play wheelchair netball. Personally, I prefer plain speaking. There's an organisation here called the RNIB, which used to stand for the Royal National Institute for the Blind, but now stands for the Royal National Institute of Blind People. As I've pointed out to them, more than once, surely that should therefore be the RNIBP? And that's just the problem. If you keep changing things, then how are people expected to keep up? People often feel awkward enough, around blind people, worried about saying the wrong thing, which is really stupid, without having the extra worry of accidentally using a term that's now considered to be old fashioned or offensive. I don't see eye to eye, as it were, with the RNIB, on quite a lot of issues, and that's the very least of them, but it's emblematic, I think, of a wider dumbing down and bowdlerisation of language.

As for humour, I think you're well aware that I have no problem with jokes about blindness, and will often tell them myself. Indeed, I do it as a way of breaking the ice, if I think that someone is feeling uncomfortable around me, and if someone else tells such a joke, it shows that they are not feeling uncomfortable, or worried about offending me, or whatever it is they think might happen if they say the wrong thing. So yes, even if something is gut-wrenchingly unfunny, such as some of your own jokes, Prom, it's still perfectly obvious if something is intended as humour, or to deliberately cause offense.

Well, that was a bit of a rant, wasn't it?