The Art of Pretending

[Phil8659]

What is the foundation of The Art of Pretending>
Good pretenders understand the Law of Equality. If something cannot exist in the real world, well it cannot exist in the fantasy world.
Some things may exist in the real world, but do not. So, these possible things actually fit in to the world of fantasy.
So, let us put the Law of Equality between the real world and the fantasy world, Lay it down in stone so that we form good fantasies.
Metaphysics is to the Intelligible as Physics is to the Perceptible.
The more knowledge one has about the perceptible world, the more material one has to build their fantasies.
So, what do you notice is the greatest power in the physical world? Well, it always comes from the interaction of real things. Real physics is a closed system. There is no fantasy in the real world, nor in fantasy is there any objects. None. There is no physical power.

Plato simply said, the intelligible can never be perceptible nor can the perceptible ever be intelligible. Real world application? The noun can never be a verb, and a verb can never be a noun.

Now, if one can follow this out, as a standard, it is akin to knowing the self, as the intelligible called mind, and the perceptible of the material world.

Today, it is the foundation of Virtual Reality. two words which form an oxymoron. The virtual is not real, the real is not virtual. Most people, however like worthless fantasies, i.e., fantasies that produce nothing good.

The power of pretending, is predictive behavior, what might be, I can make. What cannot be, is worthless.

[Phil8659]

Pure Mathematics, is used for pure Model Making. That is why I pushed geometry way past anything mankind had done previously. If you can not show it on physical paper, if you cannot make it real, then it is corrupt, it uses fantasy which is worthless. This form of mathematics, Plato called the Philosopher's math. It does not use assumptions, you show every step from first principles.
Those who insist on mixing the fantasy with reality, claiming their words are a standard, simply do not know the difference.As Plato said, they are asleep and do not know it. In Biblical terms, they are the walking dead.
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[Pistolero]

To study the "art of pretending", study the Empire of Lies.
An empire founded on lies, rewarding liars...a meritocracy of bullshyte.

Hollywood = art of lying
Marketing = science of lying
Politics (US) = power through lying
Media (US) = propagation of lies.

Metaphysics is where you'll find charlatans lurking.
Metaphysis divorced from physis.

Integrity begins with nature, supporting positions using metaphysics.
Metaphysics can only be supportive.
Charlatans, like all those selling the Abrahamic triad, and postmodernism, begin with metaphysical concepts that refer to nothing real, but are words, referring to more words.
Words, representing copcnepts, that refer to nothing in the experienced world, and that oftentimes cotnradict the experienced world.
Words defined in supernatural ways.
Like how they've defined 'god' or 'free-will.'

I use the metaphor of a building.
The structure is nature.
Metaphysics is its foundations.
Charlatans invert this sequence, beginning with metaphysics and then selectively using nature to support their supernatural, surreal, metaphysics.

[Phil8659]

To study the "art of pretending", study the Empire of Lies.
An empire founded on lies, rewarding liars...a meritocracy of bullshyte.

Hollywood = art of lying
Marketing = science of lying
Politics (US) = power through lying
Media (US) = propagation of lies.

Metaphysics is where you'll find charlatans lurking.
Metaphysis divorced from physis.

Integrity begins with nature, supporting positions using metaphysics.
Metaphysics can only be supportive.
Charlatans, like all those selling the Abrahamic triad, and postmodernism, begin with metaphysical concepts that refer to nothing real, but are words, referring to more words.
Words, representing copcnepts, that refer to nothing in the experienced world, and that oftentimes cotnradict the experienced world.
Words defined in supernatural ways.
Like how they've defined 'god' or 'free-will.'

I use the metaphor of a building.
The structure is nature.
Metaphysics is its foundations.
Charlatans invert this sequence, beginning with metaphysics and then selectively using nature to support their supernatural, surreal, metaphysics.

I do not recall ever asking you for attention with bull shit. You want to mentally masturbate, get your own room.

[Pistolero]

PN is your private room where you mentally masturbate?

Dully noted.
Another jerk-off artist.

Wow, this place is full of them.

Do you want to be....ahem....left aloe to do your...thing in private, or do you come here to publicly jerk-off, while others watch silently?
kinky.

[Pistolero]

The admins should have a sticky note warning the members....Be silent, jerk-off in session.
Wear a raincoat, if you dare enter.
No worries for STD's, probably an incel virgin.

[Phil8659]

Fine example of the walking dead above
Too stupid to know that the topic is how we form formal behavior, he takes it to mean acting like a stupid savage.
For thousands of years, those who would not cease their disruptive behavior, had to be physically hauled away. Some forums still do that today, this forum is rather short handed.
So, as a reminder, to those a bit slow. The topic is our behavior, not ranting and raving about the behaviors of others we cannot control. We are seeking to lay down that standard first, and then finding ways of applying it.

Nobody but a complete idiot claims that a standard of behavior be enforced before that standard exists. I said the same about the Philosophers Mathematics.

[Phil8659]

Every or almost every, teacher of grammar claims that Grammar is for speech. But is that what the Law of Identity says, is that what your own biology says?

Biologically, as our body is used to manage physical objects, how many of those objects can we make useful by talking to it? Or by yelling at it, or by whimpering for sympathy in front of it. Very few. most people think social interaction is performed that way. Me, I have actually built things, both personally and professionally. Real objects produced with my own hands.

Thus, both in the metaphors of the Bible, and in the Dialogs of Plato, we have a standard of Grammar which is performed by a one to one correspondence between the elements of the intelligible with the simple motion of the hand. We have a Universal Grammar which is perceptible and wholly intelligible. It is to be the foundation of a Social Contract. A Social Contract is about behavior over the whole environment. It is not some dime store philosophy by a dime store philosopher. It is wholly perceptible, and depends wholly on the intelligible. If you cannot join in the social contract, you are just another thing that has to be controlled by some other means.
With Geometry, you become familiar with how to use your hand, four different ways with historically significant names; Common Grammar, Arithmetic, Algebra, and of course, Geometry, itself. Not doing the work, is the implicit statement, that you have a welfare mentality

[Perspective]

To study the "art of pretending", study the Empire of Lies.
An empire founded on lies, rewarding liars...a meritocracy of bullshyte.

Hollywood = art of lying
Marketing = science of lying
Politics (US) = power through lying
Media (US) = propagation of lies.

Metaphysics is where you'll find charlatans lurking.
Metaphysis divorced from physis.

Integrity begins with nature, supporting positions using metaphysics.
Metaphysics can only be supportive.
Charlatans, like all those selling the Abrahamic triad, and postmodernism, begin with metaphysical concepts that refer to nothing real, but are words, referring to more words.
Words, representing copcnepts, that refer to nothing in the experienced world, and that oftentimes cotnradict the experienced world.
Words defined in supernatural ways.
Like how they've defined 'god' or 'free-will.'

I use the metaphor of a building.
The structure is nature.
Metaphysics is its foundations.
Charlatans invert this sequence, beginning with metaphysics and then selectively using nature to support their supernatural, surreal, metaphysics.

Good response to “the art of pretending.”
I especially like,
“ Hollywood = art of lying
Marketing = science of lying
Politics (US) = power through lying
Media (US) = propagation of lies.”

Interesting analogy but I don’t see how metaphysics (being so abstract) could be the foundation. How do you define metaphysics?

[Pistolero]

Metaphysics...that which proceed from physics.
Foundational.
Whatever man finds incomprehensible he explains metaphysically, and since organism prefer order, they prefer to build a metaphysics that is completely comprehensible.
Metaphysics is really a study on how the human brain conceptualizes an unknowable, often incomprehensible, dynamic existence.

Essentially metaphysics is the Platonic realm.
Of the mind. The human skull is the Platonic cave, where perfect, complete ideals exist.
That is where you'll find the god of Abraham, and all ideals that refer to nothing real....often describe what negates the perceptible....and thusly are nihilistic.
Nullifying.


What is of the mind?
A representation of existence.
What is existence?
Dynamic, interactive, fluctuating...
So, metaphysics converts to abstract things, what it perceives or it needs to cope with existence.
Metaphysics is the realm of the human mind - collective unconscious, if you use Jung's thesis.

A proper use of metaphysics is as an extension of physics...or the perceptible.
I offered an explanation in the thread titles "Sequences."
Nihilism inverts the sequence and begins with the mental abstractions, represented by words.
So,...."first was the word...."

[Pistolero]

Metaphysics is where charlatans begin their grift.
I'm not saying all metaphysics is a con-job, but that con-artists always begin with a metaphysical argument, detached from reality....often contradicting experienced existence.

So, instead of metaphysics supporting a theory based in physis, in nature, they attempt to selectively sample physis to support their metaphysics.

Nihilism always inverts.
Nihilism always inverts and then must contradict its own principles in order to survive a world they've negated, in theory.
Nihilism is how grifters seduce their victims.....they offer them a supernatural alternative...a comforting alternative.
A lie.