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Re: Don't know what your purpose in life is?

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Don't be shy, show the world how brave you are.
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you go on about 'grammar', here, "phil8659", as though you have 'grammar' all worked out, but you did not even just get the 'grammar' in your thread title, here, correct. Let alone the rest of what you said and wrote, here.
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iambiguous wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 9:45 pm
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 9:13 pmA person without a purpose, is simply an incomplete person.
On the other hand, what makes a person "complete"?

Then the part where any number of these folks...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... traditions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... ideologies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... philosophy

...will insist that's only accomplished by joining them on their very own One True Path.
Why do you BELIEVE, ABSOLUTELY, that there is NO so-called One True Path, when you have NOT YET been ABLE TO JUST SHOW, let alone PROVE, that there is NOT One?
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Age wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 1:18 am you go on about 'grammar', here, "phil8659", as though you have 'grammar' all worked out, but you did not even just get the 'grammar' in your thread title, here, correct. Let alone the rest of what you said and wrote, here.
Here we go with the so called brave man's deflection. Do not be shy. I did not say spelling, or typo's I said grammar, look it up. I am waiting for my hero!
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promethean75 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:17 pm One can't have a purpose unless they are being used as a means toward some end.
Do you BELIEVE that you human beings are NOT being USED, here?

After all it has ALREADY BEEN EXPLAINED HOW you human beings HAVE BEEN, and ARE BEING, USED, here.
promethean75 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:17 pm Since there's no god,
When 'you' say and write the word 'god', then what do 'you' mean, EXACTLY, which 'you' then CLAIM, 'it does NOT exist'?
promethean75 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:17 pm you can't have a purpose from that guy.
WHY do you say and CLAIM, here, that 'god' is 'that guy'?
promethean75 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:17 pm This is was Sartre meant with his existence precedes essence thing; there's no third party to determine what you are... no idea or platonic form of 'human' held in the mind of some god. But other people can give you a purpose by using you somehow.

The purpose you have for 'yourself' is the idea of a future state you want to be in at some present moment. You can have a purpose to be something, do something, have something, or be somewhere. That's about it.
There is NO CHANCE AT ALL that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SUBSTANTIALLY MORE than, 'that is about it'?
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Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:27 pm
promethean75 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:17 pm One can't have a purpose unless they are being used as a means toward some end.

Since there's no god, you can't have a purpose from that guy. This is was Sartre meant with his existence precedes essence thing; there's no third party to determine what you are... no idea or platonic form of 'human' held in the mind of some god. But other people can give you a purpose by using you somehow.

The purpose you have for 'yourself' is the idea of a future state you want to be in at some present moment. You can have a purpose to be something, do something, have something, or be somewhere. That's about it.
So, you eyes have no purpose, your ears have no purpose, etc., culminating in a mind which has no purpose.
Comprehension and COMPREHENDING is CERTAINLY NOT your best skill, OBVIOUSLY.

Now, WHAT, EXACTLY, MADE you BELIEVE that 'this', here, 'logically followed'?
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:27 pm You cannot spot a self referential fallacy when it is biting you in the ass. That, my friend, is the peak of stupidity.
Simple English Grammar, a thing is either literal or metaphorical. Learn basic grammar.
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Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:39 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:33 pm
promethean75 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:17 pm
Eventually the purpose is properly living your last day. Proper living is living how you always thought you should be living. Your last day is unknown.
What may be predicated of any thing is wholly determined by the definition of that thing. So, the sentence is gibberish.
ONCE MORE 'you' have A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH 'comprehension', itself.
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Oh look, we have a barking dog, begging for attention. So, where is my hero? Wow, both a hero and shy. What a combo.
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Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:47 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:43 pm
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:39 pm

What may be predicated of any thing is wholly determined by the definition of that thing. So, the sentence is gibberish.
Oh, I wouldn't worry about that too much. Proper living varies from person to person. I knew a Depression-era old timer who said that at some point in his life he decided to start living like a millionaire, even though he didn’t have a million. It changed his attitude and he died with money in the bank. Great advice.
So, you talk like a judge or lawyer, who insist on the idea that people are entitled to what they have not earned. Which only means, they could not even understand the Constitution which they vowed to protect, and thus, destroy it.
AGAIN, WHY do 'you', CONTINUALLY, 'comprehend' things, which are NEVER even BEING SAID, NOR STATED?
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:47 pm I strongly object to people who believe that they have a right to believe in anything they want.
Do 'you' ALSO have A 'strong objection' to "yourself" who BELIEVES that 'you' have A 'right' to BELIEVE in ANY thing 'you' WANT, like for example, your BELIEF that you are ALLOWED TO 'strongly object' to what OTHER human beings SAY and/or DO?

WHY are 'you' ALLOWED TO BELIEVE in ANY thing that 'you' WANT, but 'strongly object' when 'others' DO the EXACT SAME thing?
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:47 pm Wanting to insert their own delusions into other people's words, because they are too stupid and lazy to actually learn to be literate, is actually sub human.
But, 'this' IS, EXACTLY, what 'you', "yourself", CONTINUALLY DO, here, "phil8659". And, in just about EVERY reply you give, here.
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I know my hero has not run off like a common coward, unable to defend himself. Unthinkable. I must be patient, he will return, proof in hand, for all the world to see, that he can outsmart his own computer, that it is not at all designed. the only power in the universe, is not a design at all, it is an infinity of chance.

Anybody know a good dog catcher, the barking and begging for attention is so annoying.
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Walker wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:03 am
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:47 pm
Goodness gracious, yer honor. That’s not quite the point. The old timer began to live like a millionaire, which means he dropped his anxiety over money. He paid his bills as usual, and the money he would have usually put in the bank, or let roll over into savings, he spent on some vacations, clothes, a car, things he had denied himself with his money prudence that amounted to anxiety. Took up some charitable causes. It's not that he spent a lot on himself, but rather, he began to spend on himself at all. To live like a millionaire is to think like a millionaire, which is to be rather congenial and generous and really, without a care in the world.
"phil8659" WILL, STILL, NOT be ABLE TO COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND, 'this'. And, the reason WHY is BECAUSE 'we', here, are ALL 'illiterate', and therefore EVERY thing 'we' SAY and WRITE, here, is NOT 'correct grammar'.
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I am in desperate need of salvation, for the only power a mind can possibly know, is simply a random collection of words.

By biological design, we are suppose, in a metaphor, say what we see in order to effect predictive life supporting behavior. If a dim wit cannot comprehend something so simple, then the should just shut the fuck up.
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Re: Don't know what your purpose in life is?

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Phil8659 wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:06 am
Ben JS wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:01 am
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 10:50 pmSo, you are claiming your design is not biological.
No, numpty.

I'm not stating we aren't biological,
which is why I didn't give a definition of biological.

I'm stating we are not designed,
which is why I gave a definition of design.

You need the definition of design,
because you're using it incorrectly.
You applied the word to something that it doesn't apply to.

Design: To create or contrive for a particular purpose or effect / To have as a goal or purpose; intend.

Natural selection isn't designing anything.
It's producing a bias between that which is present,
and that which was present, and is present no more.

It explains what traits are selected for,
and why those traits are more frequent.
Because organisms without those traits,
are outcompeted by organisms with those traits.

Thus, an abundance of those traits emerge.

Natural selection shapes us - molds us -,
but not through intent or design,
not with any objective.

Beyond the bias that living being apply to the world,
it is not inherently good or bad if a being survives or goes extinct.
If a species goes extinct, that is not a failure or success -
these are value judgements which are projected onto it.
If a species survives, that is not a failure or success -
these are value judgements which are projected onto it.

We are not designed.

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Is it starting to click in your brain yet?
A thing is defined by its elements, relative and correlative, and you are claiming, like an idiot, that this is not a design? And since binary recursion can only produce a binary result, you are claiming that by the use of grammar that there is a design over all things, and with words claiming that it is not so.
ONCE AGAIN, what 'you' 'comprehend' is NOT what 'the other' was SAYING, nor MEANING, AT ALL.

WHY do you KEEP MISSING and/or MISUNDERSTANDING what 'we' SAY and WRITE, here, when, from your perspective, ONLY, it is ALL of 'us' who are the IDIOTS?
Phil8659 wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:06 am So, you connect the dots brainiac. Every word out of your mouth is contradicting your own existence. And since you cannot follow, two and only two concepts, you are hopelessly illiterate.

Show the world, how 1 when added to one, or one sum set into proportion with another, results in 0. I am interested in you imaginary mathematical magic.

Simply put, if you really believed that you had no purpose, you would not even be motivated to breathe, or even get out of bed.
So, are you, here, SAYING or SUGGESTING that one HAS TO BELIEVE that it has purpose, otherwise it would not even be motivated to breathe, nor to even get out of bed?
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Phil8659 wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:14 am
Ben JS wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:12 am
Phil8659 wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:06 amyou are claiming, like an idiot, that this is not a design?
You claimed we're biologically designed.
I state we are not designed.

Things can be designed.
Not all things are designed.

Guess what's not designed?

Us.

Do you think our species is designed, Phil?

Define design for us, bud.
Try learning grammar and how to use a dictionary.
ONCE AGAIN, 'you' go on and on and on about 'definitions', but when CHALLENGED TO JUST PROVIDE A 'definition' for just ONE word, ONLY, to 'run away' and 'cower' as some would say.
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Hey doggy, everyone knows your purpose, to get attention and annoy people with your barking.
So, did you pull your purpose out of your ass, by magic, or were you born with it?
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