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I have uploaded
Formal Grammar Dialectic By Plato and me,
https://archive.org/details/formal-gram ... c-by-plato

I have placed the dialogs in order, and provided a DVD of the audio of the dialogs
along with the PDF book.
It is available for free download.
Plato was the founder Formal Grammar, and the dialogs are simply lessons to learn how to think and prove your thoughts.

Microsoft Word was used to show the grade level of reading comprehension of each of the dialogs.

I, however, seem to naturally write a little above it, which does not matter, as anyone can draw the simple introduction to Advanced Geometry described by Plato. The figures speak for themselves and they are the simplest methods of doing basic arithmetic, Algebra and geometry.

I like the cover design, the background I used Word, the text I used Adobe.
I do not like the layout of the Matrix section, so I am redoing that now. And a left a page out, It was in another directory, and it contains the grade level states as computed by Word, I will post the update edition in an updates folder when I get it done.
I am also clarifying the difference between Induction and deduction by showing Eight basic mathematical operations Four by induction and four by deduction. Induction is when you effect reasoning by adding to the one, Deduction is when you perform all reasoning by dividing the unit;
You can grasp it better when you study how easy it is to work with fractions i by deductive operations All of the figures are really simple.

Inductive math uses 0 to infinity to perform operations, while deductive is from -1 to 1, All operations are performed in limits,
As as Plato noted, there is also a combination of both. We can use both sets of figures for any complex example, however, the eight operations, four times two, is very distinct.

PDF update has been posted.
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Today we call The Elements Euclidean. However, if you pay attention to what Plato explicitly say, that there was to be a new kind of geometry, one which started from First Principles, used for teaching philosophers from which they could comprehend all truth. So, So called Euclidean Geometry was first taught at Plato's Academy. A Geometry based on the Elements of a thing. I.e., The Elements we have to day, was the first attempt to write Dialectical Geometry.
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Phil8659 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:40 am…The Elements we have to day, was the first attempt to write Dialectical Geometry.
Are you referring to sacred geometry?
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Perspective wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:18 am
Phil8659 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:40 am…The Elements we have to day, was the first attempt to write Dialectical Geometry.
Are you referring to sacred geometry?
A pure and perfect rational grammar goes by what each individual comprehends of it.

I however, divide the grammar matrix into Common Grammar, Arithmetic and Algebra as digital, while Geometry as analog. That is why I call BAG Sample Dictionary, Basic Analog Grammar Sample Dictionary. It is over 12,000 pages.
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I am currently uploading my contributions to what Plato called the Art of Mensuration.

It is a sampler of my work in geometry, several pdf files, over 21,000 pages of geometry much of which has never seen before my work.
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Phil8659 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:05 pm I am currently uploading my contributions to what Plato called the Art of Mensuration.

It is a sampler of my work in geometry, several pdf files, over 21,000 pages of geometry much of which has never seen before my work.
Most of the work I've done was never seen before I did it either.
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Reading comprehension has never been lower.
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Phil8659 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 12:37 am Reading comprehension has never been lower.
You must be quite a phenomenal thinker from the sounds of it. Do you teach or work at a university?
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Just out of curiosity is there ANY point or purpose to what you are doing, and what you want others to go looking for and to read?

If yes, then what is 'that point' or 'that purpose', EXACTLY?

If you can NOT or will NOT just ANSWER and CLARIFY these two, here, then WHY NOT?
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Descartes' Rene, A Discourse on Method, "Principle of philosophy," Kindle Edition, 2010. I read and studied the Enlightenment, well before CE 2010. I just use the Kindle Edition to search terms. as much easier. I like Classical philosophy, the Enlightenment focuses on Empiricism and, "Dare to know" in favor of free thought.
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puto wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:26 am Descartes' Rene, A Discourse on Method, "Principle of philosophy," Kindle Edition, 2010. I read and studied the Enlightenment, well before CE 2010. I just use the Kindle Edition to search terms. as much easier. I like Classical philosophy, the Enlightenment focuses on Empiricism and, "Dare to know" in favor of free thought.
I studied some of his work, especially his contributions to geometry. He was trying to figure out how to write equations to figures. One of his figures, resulting in a polynomial, he got one part wrong; his result was half of what it should have been, but apparently nobody caught it. The writeup of the figure I have in The Delian Quest. I show it step by step. He never figured it out. Instead, he was given credit for things he did not do in geometry. The Delian quest will show you how to do what Descartes was trying to do.

Philosophy is not about what you like, or what you like to feel. It is learning about what you are, why you are and learning ho to do our biologically defined job, in short self-realization. It is a lot of work on the self.
Mo ne has even pointed out that everyone besides Plato, think they can write about grammar, but all they end up doing is renaming names and they do not realize it. The common mind cannot follow a concept, and just keep renaming names, This is why you should use Geometry to learn how to be consistent in naming. If you study Aristotle, you will find that he did that. I call him a synonym freak.
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What I have posted, so far by way of Formal Grammar Dialectic, is preparatory to a step by step grammar book, memory management by the use of grammar. It is why Plato said that you had to learn arithmetic, and geometry, to prepare the mind for order. It is learnt slowly until it becomes a habit.

You learning, as he said and demonstrated, by asking and answering questions of the geometric figure. It is binary. and you learn you let it teach you mental habits required for orderly thought.

You do not train your mind, you learn nothing. You end up like the whiny fools that end up on a philosophy forum spouting bull shit.

Most people who use the words philosophy and philosopher, are too stupid and too lazy to even attempt to do the work on themselves, and they like to flatter themselves by bothering people who have and do do it. Just ask them to show the work, they wont because they cannot. Real philosophy is proven by real work.
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