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attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:46 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:18 pm attofishpi

I look forwards to your results.

Please give an apology with your opinion.
What would I have to apologise for?


How about answering my earlier question (*the red bit):-
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:08 pm I see todays Christian right obeying immoral rules as they pertain to LGBTQ+.

That aside.
..the --> TQ+ and onwards gets me confused so forget that rubbish.

The LGB - part, what is immoral about that in accordance with what Christ stated? Indeed, find scripture for me.
Why would I work to bolster the evil side?

There is nothing immoral in being LGBTQ+.

That was the point of having people think of it.
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Reasons People Choose Atheism
Lisa O at MSN

Lack of Evidence
For many atheists, the lack of empirical evidence supporting the existence of a deity is a decisive factor. They argue that belief in a god should meet the same rigorous standards of evidence as scientific claims. Without verifiable data like tangible miracles or undeniable divine interventions—they find no logical reason to accept theistic claims.

The Problem of Evil
The existence of suffering, evil, and injustice in the world poses a challenge to the idea of an all-powerful, benevolent deity. Atheists argue that a loving God would not allow atrocities like wars, genocides, or illnesses. The disconnect between religious teachings of a just God and the harsh reality of life reinforces atheistic perspectives.

Contradictions in Religious Text
Atheists also often scrutinize religious scriptures and find contradictions, such as conflicting accounts of creation or historical inaccuracies. They also question moral teachings that condone actions like slavery, war, or discrimination. These inconsistencies and ethically problematic passages lead many to view religious texts as human constructs rather than divine revelations.

Scientific Understanding
As science advances, it provides natural explanations for phenomena that were once attributed to gods. The Big Bang theory, evolution, and neuroscience explain the origins of the universe, life, and consciousness without invoking a deity. Atheists often see science as a more reliable, evidence-based framework for understanding the world than religion.

Cultural Relativity of Religion
Religions vary widely based on geography, with different cultures worshiping different gods. Atheists argue that this cultural relativity suggests religion is a human invention rather than a universal truth. If one's faith depends largely on where they are born, they reason, it undermines claims of absolute truth.

Indoctrination and Fear Tactics
Religions often use indoctrination from a young age and fear-based tactics, such as the threat of eternal damnation, to enforce belief. Atheists reject this as psychological manipulation, arguing that a truly loving God would not rely on fear or coercion to gain followers, further supporting their disbelief.

Moral Independence
Many atheists reject the notion that morality requires religion. They argue that ethical behavior is rooted in empathy, social contracts, and evolutionary biology, not divine commandments. By rejecting religion, they embrace the freedom to create their own moral code, which they see as more adaptable and relevant to modern society.

Negative Personal Experiences
Personal experiences, such as hypocrisy, abuse, or exclusion within religious institutions, often lead to disillusionment. For example, someone hurt by judgmental or corrupt religious leaders may question the validity of the faith they represent. These experiences can spark a deeper investigation into the foundations of religion, culminating in atheism.

The Burden of Proof
Atheists argue that the burden of proof lies with those making extraordinary claims, such as the existence of a deity. Since believers have yet to provide convincing evidence for their claims, atheists see no reason to accept them. They adopt a position of disbelief until presented with sufficient evidence, much like a jury evaluates a case.

Occam’s Razor
Occam’s Razor suggests that the simplest explanation is often the best. For atheists, natural explanations for the universe and life are simpler and more plausible than invoking a supernatural being. They argue that adding the concept of a god complicates the equation without adding explanatory value.

Religious Wars and Conflicts
The long history of violence in the name of religion, such as the Crusades, witch hunts, and modern terrorism, leads many to reject faith. Atheists view religion as a divisive force that promotes intolerance and hostility, contradicting claims that it promotes peace and love.

Equality and Inclusion
Many atheists are troubled by the discriminatory practices and teachings found in some religions, particularly against women, LGBTQ+ individuals, and other marginalized groups. They reject faiths that perpetuate inequality, finding atheism to be a more inclusive worldview that values human dignity over divine authority.

Freethinking Ideals
Atheists often value intellectual freedom and critical thinking above adherence to dogma. They see freethinking as the ability to question, challenge, and evaluate ideas without fear of divine retribution or societal condemnation. For many,religion imposes limitations on inquiry, particularly when it demands blind faith or unquestioning obedience to authority.

Disillusionment with Prayer
For many atheists, the perceived ineffectiveness of prayer plays a pivotal role in their rejection of religion. They notice that prayers often go unanswered or produce outcomes indistinguishable from chance. This leads to skepticism about the existence of a divine being who listens and responds.

Naturalistic Worldview
Atheists who adopt a naturalistic worldview believe that everything in existence can be explained through natural laws and processes. They argue that invoking supernatural explanations for phenomena adds unnecessary complexity without providing tangible answers.

Religious Hypocrisy
The gap between religious teachings and the actions of religious leaders and followers often leads to disillusionment. Scandals involving clergy, such as financial corruption, abuse, or moral failings, expose a contradiction between the principles preached and the behavior exhibited.

Desire for Autonomy
Atheists often reject religion because they value personal autonomy and freedom of thought. They resist the idea of external authorities dictating how they should live, think, or believe. Religious doctrines, which often prescribe specific moral codes, rituals, and life choices, can feel restrictive and incompatible with modern values of individualism.

[]bLack of Personal Revelation[/b]
While many religious believers cite personal experiences or revelations as the foundation of their faith, atheists often report an absence of such encounters. Without tangible or transformative experiences to affirm the existence of a deity, they find it difficult to maintain belief.

Philosophical Materialism
Philosophical materialism—the belief that only physical matter exists—aligns closely with atheism. Atheists who adopt this view reject the supernatural entirely, including gods, spirits, and an afterlife. They argue that everything in the universe can be explained through material interactions and scientific principles.

Disillusionment with Organized Religion
The perceived flaws of organized religion—such as political entanglement, commercialization, and authoritarianism—drive many toward atheism. Atheists often see religious institutions as more concerned with power and wealth than with genuine spiritual guidance.

Exposure to Diverse Beliefs
Interacting with people from different religious and cultural backgrounds often leads to questions about the exclusivity of any one faith. Atheists may notice that every religion claims to be the ultimate truth, yet they offer contradictory narratives about the divine.

A Scientific Mindset
Atheists with a scientific mindset often prioritize skepticism, evidence, and falsifiability. They apply these principles to religious claims and find them lacking in empirical support. Religious concepts such as miracles, creation stories, or divine intervention often fail to meet the rigorous standards of scientific inquiry, leading to their rejection.

Lack of Coherence in Theology
Theological arguments often involve abstract concepts that atheists find incoherent or contradictory. For instance, the idea of an all-powerful, all-knowing God raises questions about free will and the nature of evil. Atheists also challenge the idea of infinite punishment for finite sins or the notion of divine omniscience coexisting with human autonomy.

Religious Exclusivity
The exclusivity of many religions, which claim to be the sole path to truth or salvation, is a significant turn-off for atheists. They question how a just and loving God could condemn billions of people who follow other faiths or no faith at all. This exclusivity often appears arbitrary and unjust, leading atheists to reject the idea of a deity who demands unconditional loyalty to one specific doctrine.

Existential Freedom
Atheists often find freedom in the idea that life's meaning is not dictated by an external deity but is something individuals create for themselves. This existential perspective allows them to live authentically, pursuing their passions and values without fear of divine judgment.

Cultural Modernization
As societies modernize, traditional religious beliefs and practices often become less relevant to people. Atheists see this secular shift as a natural progression toward reason and equality. In many developed nations, education, technological advancements, and social progress challenge old dogmas, paving the way for a more skeptical and humanistic worldview.

Rejection of Miracles
Atheists often view miracles as events that lack credible evidence or verifiable causes. For them, stories of divine intervention, such as miraculous healings or supernatural occurrences, can usually be explained through coincidence, psychological biases, or scientific phenomena.

Psychological Insights
Psychological research shows that religious belief can originate from cognitive biases like pattern recognition or the need for agency. Atheists often reject faith after recognizing these psychological mechanisms at play. They argue that religion is a byproduct of human evolution and societal needs rather than evidence of divine existence, choosing to trust empirical findings over spiritual interpretations.

Focus on Humanity
Atheists often prioritize human welfare over divine worship, emphasizing compassion, empathy, and progress. They believe that addressing global challenges—such as poverty, climate change, and inequality—requires human action, not divine intervention. This focus on humanity aligns with their belief in self-reliance and collective responsibility rather than waiting for a higher power to intervene.

A Desire for Truth
Above all, many atheists are driven by a commitment to truth. They reject comforting illusions or unproven claims, choosing instead to base their worldview on observable, testable, and verifiable facts. For them, the pursuit of truth is intellectually fulfilling and a moral imperative, even if it leads to uncomfortable or unpopular conclusions.




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Many people have interpreted God for us. Jesus of Nazareth is the man who most contributors to this forum know about. Why not simply study what Jesus said and did to get answers to your questions concerning God?

'Atheist' is just a word. There are a many sorts of atheist as there are people.
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"Why not simply study what Jesus said"

It would be a quick study, no? Be nice, love everybody, etc. Who hasn't already said that a hundred times throughout history? What is there to 'study' here?
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promethean75 wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:28 pm "Why not simply study what Jesus said"

It would be a quick study, no? Be nice, love everybody, etc. Who hasn't already said that a hundred times throughout history? What is there to 'study' here?
The immorality of some of Christianity.

The Messianic concept for one and Armageddon for another.

Where are the cowardly Christians.
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promethean75 wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:28 pm "Why not simply study what Jesus said"

It would be a quick study, no? Be nice, love everybody, etc. Who hasn't already said that a hundred times throughout history? What is there to 'study' here?
How is Jesus showing his love with Armageddon?
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Well, it was a commercial success, grossing $553.7 million worldwide against a $140 million budget and becoming the highest-grossing film of 1998.

Wait, are you talking about the movie or the biblical concept?
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Greatest I am wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 3:27 pm
promethean75 wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:28 pm "Why not simply study what Jesus said"

It would be a quick study, no? Be nice, love everybody, etc. Who hasn't already said that a hundred times throughout history? What is there to 'study' here?
The immorality of some of Christianity.

The Messianic concept for one and Armageddon for another.

Where are the cowardly Christians.
Go shopping at Marks and Spencer, you don't have to buy the whole shop.Jesus himself taught in parables----simple stories for simple folk.

The messianic concept and Armageddon are more academic theological studies; however many people need quick spiritual help, or may not be attuned to theology.The parable of The Good Samaritan holds a basic moral concept and is enough for most people to be going on with.
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"The parable of The Good Samaritan holds a basic moral concept"

All that stuff is null and void in a society where the working class does not own the means of production. Laws and rules are illegitimate in such a society.

Maybe that's what the christians don't get. Even if there was a god, we'd not follow his rules in a world like this. In fact, we'd almost go out of our way to break them.
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Belinda wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:42 am
The messianic concept and Armageddon are more academic theological studies;
Not to Christians. Even if true, yjey are still immoral concepts.

Go you judge the genocidal Gods with being good?
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iambiguous wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 3:46 am The post 30 Reasons People Choose Atheism appeared first on Housely.

Reasons People Choose Atheism
Lisa O at MSN
I'm too lazy to comment on all 30 of the "Reasons People Choose Atheism" by the renowned "Lisa O," so here's a few...
Lack of Evidence
For many atheists, the lack of empirical evidence supporting the existence of a deity is a decisive factor. They argue that belief in a god should meet the same rigorous standards of evidence as scientific claims. Without verifiable data like tangible miracles or undeniable divine interventions—they find no logical reason to accept theistic claims.
And what if an incorporeal consciousness who is capable of creating more than a hundred-billion galaxies of suns and planets out of the living fabric of its very own MIND, doesn't want to reveal itself because it might disrupt the integrity of the vast (dream-like) illusion it has created in order to awaken its own offspring (us) into existence?

Do you actually think that such a Being — a Being that would make us humans seem like amoebas in comparison — couldn't stay hidden from us if it felt that that was vital to its purposes?
The Problem of Evil
The existence of suffering, evil, and injustice in the world poses a challenge to the idea of an all-powerful, benevolent deity. Atheists argue that a loving God would not allow atrocities like wars, genocides, or illnesses. The disconnect between religious teachings of a just God and the harsh reality of life reinforces atheistic perspectives.
The Creator of the universe...

(again, without directly revealing its true self, along with our ultimate destiny)

...has vicariously imparted to us — through humans such as Jesus — ample instructions as to how we should be treating each other.

So, why don't atheists place the blame for wars and genocides where the blame belongs?

And in regard to the issue of illnesses, or accidents, or any of the other numerous means by which humans die,...

...well, the fact of the matter is that just as we were not meant to stay within our mother's womb forever, likewise, we are not meant to stay in this universe (in God's "cosmic womb") forever.
Scientific Understanding
As science advances, it provides natural explanations for phenomena that were once attributed to gods. The Big Bang theory, evolution, and neuroscience explain the origins of the universe, life, and consciousness without invoking a deity. Atheists often see science as a more reliable, evidence-based framework for understanding the world than religion.
The only thing that "science" (more specifically, quantum physics) has explained is that the phenomenal structures of the universe seem to be created from an infinitely malleable, informationally-based (holographic-like) substance that is capable of being formed into absolutely anything "imaginable" (just like the substance from which our own thoughts and dreams are created).

Therefore, if the universe is indeed the MIND of a higher consciousness,...

(which is what some of us theists believe)

...then science seems to be (perhaps inadvertently) confirming that fact.
Cultural Relativity of Religion
Religions vary widely based on geography, with different cultures worshiping different gods. Atheists argue that this cultural relativity suggests religion is a human invention rather than a universal truth. If one's faith depends largely on where they are born, they reason, it undermines claims of absolute truth.
Of course the various religions are "human inventions" (though some may be "divinely inspired" inventions).

However, I suggest that speculative "guesses" would be a more accurate term.

They are speculative guesses as to what is responsible for the unfathomable order of the universe, because only an idiot would believe that the order of the universe is the result of chance.

As a speculative thought experiment,...

...imagine you had somehow become "fully awakened" (fully conscious) within your mother's womb, say, a week before you were born out of her, it would have been impossible for you to accurately assess what your mother really looked like in the "higher (outer) dimension of reality" where her true form was presented.

However, unless you were a complete mental dud, seeing how you were literally immersed within the very fabric of your mother's being, then you perhaps could at least "sense" her presence.

Well, I suggest that we are in that same situation right now relative to God,...

(immersed within the very fabric of God's being)

...and at least some of us can, indeed, sense God's living presence in the fabric of the universe.

I'm talking about sensing the immanent presence of what Christianity refers to as being the "Holy Spirit," but more logical because it is based on the fact that universal matter is literally infused (saturated) with God's life essence in the same way that our mother's material womb was (is) infused with her life essence.

In which case, we (cosmic fetuses) make speculative guesses as to what God's true form might actually be like in what is yet another "higher (outer) dimension of reality."

And many of those (yes, lame/erroneous) speculative guesses regarding the ontological status of that higher dimension of reality, come in the forms of the various religions.
Indoctrination and Fear Tactics
Religions often use indoctrination from a young age and fear-based tactics, such as the threat of eternal damnation, to enforce belief. Atheists reject this as psychological manipulation, arguing that a truly loving God would not rely on fear or coercion to gain followers, further supporting their disbelief.
Yes, humans aren't very bright.

However, what do you expect of beings who are the equivalent of "amoebas" when compared to God?
The Burden of Proof
Atheists argue that the burden of proof lies with those making extraordinary claims, such as the existence of a deity. Since believers have yet to provide convincing evidence for their claims, atheists see no reason to accept them. They adopt a position of disbelief until presented with sufficient evidence, much like a jury evaluates a case.
As mentioned earlier, there can be no literal "proof" for the existence of God if God does not want her (his/its) existence to be proven due to the concern that it may affect the integrity of the "grand illusion" (an illusion that has been designed for the express purpose of awakening new eternal souls into existence).

Furthermore, when it comes to making "extraordinary claims," there are none more extraordinary, or more lacking in any reasonable proof, than the atheists' claim (at least by default) that the universe is a product of chance.
Occam’s Razor
Occam’s Razor suggests that the simplest explanation is often the best. For atheists, natural explanations for the universe and life are simpler and more plausible than invoking a supernatural being. They argue that adding the concept of a god complicates the equation without adding explanatory value.
Well, I do admit that the utterly nonsensical assumption that the unthinkable order of the universe is a product of the blind and mindless meanderings of gravity and thermodynamics, is definitely "simple" (as in "simple-minded," that is).

Again, only an idiot could believe such a thing, regardless of what that old and over-used philosophical term — "Occam’s Razor" — has to say about it.
Religious Wars and Conflicts
The long history of violence in the name of religion, such as the Crusades, witch hunts, and modern terrorism, leads many to reject faith. Atheists view religion as a divisive force that promotes intolerance and hostility, contradicting claims that it promotes peace and love.
Yes, and again, humans aren't very bright.

And that's because we are momentarily functioning within the general (low conscious) mental darkness that comes with the fact that we have not yet been "fully born" into that "higher (outer) dimension of reality" where the truth of our ultimate form and eternal destiny will finally be revealed to us.
Religious Hypocrisy
The gap between religious teachings and the actions of religious leaders and followers often leads to disillusionment. Scandals involving clergy, such as financial corruption, abuse, or moral failings, expose a contradiction between the principles preached and the behavior exhibited.
Again, humans aren't very bright due to reasons already mentioned above.

And that same answer applies to many of the "Reasons People Choose Atheism."

No, I take that back.

Many atheists are very intelligent, or at least intelligent enough to recognize mythological religious nonsense when they see it.

However, they fail the IQ test if they then believe that the ridiculous "chance hypothesis" is a logical and viable alternative to intelligent design.
[]bLack of Personal Revelation[/b]
While many religious believers cite personal experiences or revelations as the foundation of their faith, atheists often report an absence of such encounters. Without tangible or transformative experiences to affirm the existence of a deity, they find it difficult to maintain belief.
The fact of the matter is that atheists (such as you, iambiguous) play a vital role in helping to maintain the healthy (and necessary) balance between belief and non-belief in any sort of supernatural realm.

Your inability to see beyond the illusion of objective reality which, in turn, results in your persistent and powerful opposition against the possibility of the existence of God, is what helps to maintain the integrity of the illusion.

Indeed, as I have mentioned elsewhere, by reason of the fact that atheists/hardcore materialists do not realize that they are, in essence, sleepwalking through life,...

(sleepwalking through this vast, dream-like illusion we call a universe)

...then the more articulate, and eloquent, and passionate they are in presenting their materialistic vision of reality,...

...then the more they help to perpetuate the necessary belief that "this" (the illusion of objective reality) may be all there is to our existence, and thus keeps humans focused on more "down to earth" activities such as awakening new souls into existence in the same way that their own souls were awakened into existence (i.e., via humans making and raising babies).
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Lack of Evidence
For many atheists, the lack of empirical evidence supporting the existence of a deity is a decisive factor. They argue that belief in a god should meet the same rigorous standards of evidence as scientific claims. Without verifiable data like tangible miracles or undeniable divine interventions—they find no logical reason to accept theistic claims.
seeds wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:35 pmAnd what if an incorporeal consciousness who is capable of creating more than a hundred-billion galaxies of suns and planets out of the living fabric of its very own MIND, doesn't want to reveal itself because it might disrupt the integrity of the vast (dream-like) illusion it has created in order to awaken its own offspring (us) into existence?

Do you actually think that such a Being — a Being that would make us humans seem like amoebas in comparison — couldn't stay hidden from us if it felt that that was vital to its purposes?
Come on, if you are a God who 1] wants to be "worshipped and adored" and 2] provides mere mortals with moral commandments and 3] brings it all down to the fate of those He deems to be sinners on Judgment Day, how hard could it possibly be for an omnipotent Creator to leave us the mother of all breadcrumbs. Straight to Heaven.

As for the assessment above, how would someone go above demonstrating that this particular description of God is in fact true objectively for all of us?

As for what anyone here thinks or believes about God, there are in fact hundreds of narratives out there. Why one and not the others? And what a soothing relief it must be for someone to note that of all these One True Paths -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... traditions
-- their own is the one that is actually true.
The Problem of Evil
The existence of suffering, evil, and injustice in the world poses a challenge to the idea of an all-powerful, benevolent deity. Atheists argue that a loving God would not allow atrocities like wars, genocides, or illnesses. The disconnect between religious teachings of a just God and the harsh reality of life reinforces atheistic perspectives.
seeds wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:35 pmThe Creator of the universe...

(again, without directly revealing its true self, along with our ultimate destiny)

...has vicariously imparted to us — through humans such as Jesus — ample instructions as to how we should be treating each other.
Then back to how any number of these folks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... traditions -- might more or less subscribe to the same set of assumptions. Only it's their God not yours. You can be "born again" in accepting Jesus Christ as your own personal savior, but that means squat to those who aren't Christians. In fact, for some, it's Christians who are doomed.
seeds wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:35 pmSo, why don't atheists place the blame for wars and genocides where the blame belongs?
More to the point [mine] there is not an atheist around who is either omniscient or omnipotent. Or none I have ever met. Then the irony embedded in the fact that, down through the ages, there have been any number of gruesome conflicts that revolved around God and religion itself.

Sometimes in regard to the very same God!
seeds wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 11:35 pmAnd in regard to the issue of illnesses, or accidents, or any of the other numerous means by which humans die,...

...well, the fact of the matter is that just as we were not meant to stay within our mother's womb forever, likewise, we are not meant to stay in this universe (in God's "cosmic womb") forever.
Again, if you can go down the list here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_earthquakes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_l ... _eruptions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... l_cyclones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tsunamis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_landslides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fires
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_floods
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... ore_deaths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_diseases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events
...and still praise the Lord?
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promethean75 wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:33 am "The parable of The Good Samaritan holds a basic moral concept"

All that stuff is null and void in a society where the working class does not own the means of production. Laws and rules are illegitimate in such a society.

Maybe that's what the christians don't get. Even if there was a god, we'd not follow his rules in a world like this. In fact, we'd almost go out of our way to break them.
I accept it's a lot of work to be a Christian. Christians don't work for rewards .To be a Christian you do what you do because it's right and because you have compassion. Few,if any,measure up to the life and work of JC

No God exists to make us happy. The Christian God is known to us as Jesus Christ and He was the perfect example of many people who sacrifice everything, including their lives, out of compassion. The medics who were killed in Gaza were doing Christ's work. The man who persuaded Nazi guards to let him comfort unaccompanied small children into the gas chamber to be murdered was Christ.

Public ownership of the means of production is better than right wing dictatorship to be sure. "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on Earth" does not imply that His will is generally being done , as we well know it's not! More that God is our guiding star or compass bearing.
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"Few if any measure up to the life and work of JC"

Lol, that guy's life was a walk in the park, and I've seen nothing easier than being a christian.
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Greatest I am wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:45 pm
Belinda wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:42 am
The messianic concept and Armageddon are more academic theological studies;
Not to Christians. Even if true, yjey are still immoral concepts.

Go you judge the genocidal Gods with being good?
Genocidal gods are not good they are evil. The God of Judeo-Christianity is a compassionate god of love and has nothing to do with racism or nationalism.To understand what love is read 1 Corinthians 13
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