Donald Trump

[Flannel Jesus]

I was taught that the anatomically correct definition of a woman is a biological conscious body able to give birth to babies coupled with the natural capacity to feed that baby once born from it’s engorged milk nipples. This defines a woman quite correctly, in my humble opinion. There’s nothing complicated about that obviousness.

Trump answered the question anatomically correct. This is not difficult to comprehend.

I think it's remarkably complicated. There are women without the ability to feed a baby from their nipples, for a variety of reasons. There are women without the ability to give birth, or grow a baby in their womb, for a variety of reasons.

I'm not even talking about trans people, I'm talking about people born with XX chromosomes, who look like women, have vaginas, etc. Completely normal women.

If "able to give birth" is a necessity for qualifying as women, there's a lot of real, genuine women out there that you're saying aren't real women. Including most women over the average age of reaching post-menopause.

[Flannel Jesus]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

[Gary Childress]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

Women who can't give birth have "disorders". "Disorders" don't make people less human. However, they aren't considered as "healthy".

[Fairy]

All that yapping, yet it's still the case that there are people we should consider women, who can't give birth under any circumstance

Not all women can give birth but only women can give birth. L

Exactly, so it surely makes no sense to define women as "people who can give birth". Seems like most people agree that that's not a good definition, given the existence of old women or women with serious fertility issues. Some people just need a bit of help understanding why that's not a great definition, like Fairy.

Like how you conveniently changed the narrative from “Grandmother” to old women.

The fact is, most old women were born with a vagina, a womb, ovaries, and bleed monthly from their bodies.That makes defining women, old or young, a very simple and ordinary matter. Nothing complicated about it at all.

I’ve to date, not heard anything about a baby being born with no genitalia whatsoever, there’s usually some genitalia present at birth. If there isn’t then I’m sure there would be some alternative way of determining what chromosome level of the baby tells us about whether it’s a male or a female.

[Fairy]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

You are missing the point.

Nature made two humans, one female the other one male.

Nature did not make half male half female bodies.

Have you ever known a baby to be born with a womb and a penis? I really don’t think nature works like that do you?

[FlashDangerpants]

I was taught that the anatomically correct definition of a woman is a biological conscious body able to give birth to babies coupled with the natural capacity to feed that baby once born from it’s engorged milk nipples. This defines a woman quite correctly, in my humble opinion. There’s nothing complicated about that obviousness.

So cancer patients with double mastectomies stop being women. Cool.
Coma patients aren't women either. Wow.


If you have provided a definition of a thing - which is what you were claiming - then whether you succeeded or not comes down to a simple question of whether you are describing all and only the thing you aim to. So all women must meet your definition in all details, and only women could. Otherwise you have failed. You cannot blame FJ for your failure. Your work is sloppy.

[FlashDangerpants]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

Women who can't give birth have "disorders". "Disorders" don't make people less human. However, they aren't considered as "healthy".

Dude, I thought you said you went to university to study philosophy? Did you not do the simple definition problems like justified true belief and so on? Surely even in America they cover the difficulty of adequately defining things in year one?

[Flannel Jesus]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

Women who can't give birth have "disorders". "Disorders" don't make people less human. However, they aren't considered as "healthy".

who said anything about "less human"?

[Flannel Jesus]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

You are missing the point.

Nature made two humans, one female the other one male.

Nature did not make half male half female bodies.

Have you ever known a baby to be born with a womb and a penis? I really don’t think nature works like that do you?

You're missing the point.

There are perfectly womanly women out there who can't give birth. Women who EVERYONE would agree is a woman. So therefore, "I define a woman as a person who can give birth" is obviously not going to cut it. It's not good enough.

[Flannel Jesus]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

Women who can't give birth have "disorders". "Disorders" don't make people less human. However, they aren't considered as "healthy".

Dude, I thought you said you went to university to study philosophy? Did you not do the simple definition problems like justified true belief and so on? Surely even in America they cover the difficulty of adequately defining things in year one?

he never said he graduated.

[Fairy]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

The question wasn’t about what requirement was needed to be a woman.

Obviously if a woman can’t give birth for whatever reason, that doesn’t take away the fact that she’s still a woman.

Why do you keep changing the narrative?

[Gary Childress]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

Women who can't give birth have "disorders". "Disorders" don't make people less human. However, they aren't considered as "healthy".

Dude, I thought you said you went to university to study philosophy? Did you not do the simple definition problems like justified true belief and so on? Surely even in America they cover the difficulty of adequately defining things in year one?

I did go to a university and study philosophy. Didn't you? What's your problem with what I said? Did I say something incorrect?

[Flannel Jesus]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

The question wasn’t about what requirement was needed to be a woman.

Obviously if a woman can’t give birth for whatever reason, that doesn’t take away the fact that she’s still a woman.

Why do you keep changing the narrative?

I don't understand why you think I'm "changing the narrative". Someone gave a definition of a woman. A definition is 100% about requirements to be a woman. If the definition of a woman is "a person who can give birth", then people who can't give birth aren't women, by defintion. Right? That's what a definition... is...

That's not me changing the narrative, that's the narrative.

[Gary Childress]

Women who can't give birth have "disorders". "Disorders" don't make people less human. However, they aren't considered as "healthy".

Dude, I thought you said you went to university to study philosophy? Did you not do the simple definition problems like justified true belief and so on? Surely even in America they cover the difficulty of adequately defining things in year one?

he never said he graduated.

I didn't graduate. I dropped out due to mental health problems.

[Fairy]

Imagine this, imagine accelefine had some terrible autoimmune condition meaning that her body would reject, within a month, any baby she might be pregnant with.

Well, if "can give birth" is a requirement for being a woman, does that mean you want to force accelefine to pee in the men's toilets?

You say it's not difficult, but it seems like it's difficult to me. It seems difficult to me to say to someone like accelefine, sorry babe, due to your condition you're not really a woman, you're going to have to stand up to pee like the rest of the boys.

You are missing the point.

Nature made two humans, one female the other one male.

Nature did not make half male half female bodies.

Have you ever known a baby to be born with a womb and a penis? I really don’t think nature works like that do you?

You're missing the point.

There are perfectly womanly women out there who can't give birth. Women who EVERYONE would agree is a woman. So therefore, "I define a woman as a person who can give birth" is obviously not going to cut it. It's not good enough.

It’s good enough. The chromosomes say so.

The argument for and against what is a woman is just a stupid game of unreasonable irrational mental semantics. Typical of male behaviour and is why women will always be smarter than the male.