Why do guys who dress as girls get so much hate but not the other way around?

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Re: Why do guys who dress as girls get so much hate but not the other way around?

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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:54 pm
carlafeit wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 4:07 pm I grew up in a fundamentalist cult, very traditional — and girls and women are controlled a lot more than boys or men. That's very traditional.
Lutheran Evangelical Church by remote chance?

I have in just these last days been researching old family documents squirreled away by my great-grandfather related to the religious orientation of my own family (long long ago in Europe — we came to Paraguay in the early 1800s).

All deeply religious societies are “cults” when seen from modernity’s vistas.
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I just recalled what my own father used to say around the dining table (4 girls, 5 boys)
“Take care of the boys and the girls will take care of themselves.”
I did not quite understand what he meant till (relatively) recently.
So it's, 'Be nice to us and do what we want and we won't hurt you'. That's a great message :D
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At the rate at which predatory straight white men are jumping on the 'trans' bandwagon, soon there won't be any 'nontrans' straight white men-- only gay men. 'Interestingly' the only men who are standing up for women in this are gay, and that's only because they see the whole 'trans' cult as deeply homophobic (which it is). There are a few exceptions countable on the fingers of one hand. Ricky Gervais and Graham Linehan are a couple of notable exceptions. I can't think of any others. That's not an opinion it's a FACT. The equally 'interesting' fact is that these predatory white men have handmaidens coming out of every orifice, simpering and fawning over them in a way that makes a geisha look like a radical feminist.
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“Take care of the boys and the girls will take care of themselves.”
accelafine wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:10 pm So it's, 'Be nice to us and do what we want and we won't hurt you'. That's a great message :D
Oh no, it did not have that connotation. I will try to explain. My father was beyond doubt strict and demanding, but never unfair. He definitely put more energy (a great deal more) into his sons and their education and chastisement than ever seemed needed in the case of my sisters.

“To take care of the boys” meant to remind them at every turn of their duties and never to give in to their own strong-willed and selfish desires. I have to paraphrase but his view was that if men acted right — if they were conditioned to act right — that the girls (women) would attend quite naturally to their own needs and desires.

The idea was that when men did not behave correctly that they would be the cause of many different levels of upset.

More and more this seems true to me: delinquency begins among “the boys”.
delinquency (dɪˈlɪŋkwənsɪ)
n, pl -cies
1. (Sociology) an offence or misdeed, usually of a minor nature, esp one committed by a young person. See juvenile delinquency
2. (Law) failure or negligence in duty or obligation; dereliction
3. (Sociology) a delinquent nature or delinquent behaviour
[C17: from Late Latin dēlinquentia a fault, offence, from Latin dēlinquere to transgress, from de- + linquere to forsake]
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:54 pm Lutheran Evangelical Church by remote chance?
No, one of the many independent churches that are very numerous in the USA Bible Belt. In theory, we were not Baptist - we were just "Christian" - but the actual theology preached aligned pretty closely with the Calvinist-leaning Baptist churches.

(I was shocked one day to find out one that that John Calvin actively persecuted the earlier Baptists - the Calvinist Baptists and their ilk agree with him on pretty much everything except putting Baptists in a sack and throwing them into the river. But thats just a small detail lol
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:54 pm
carlafeit wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 4:07 pm I grew up in a fundamentalist cult, very traditional — and girls and women are controlled a lot more than boys or men. That's very traditional.
Lutheran Evangelical Church by remote chance?

I have in just these last days been researching old family documents squirreled away by my great-grandfather related to the religious orientation of my own family (long long ago in Europe — we came to Paraguay in the early 1800s).

All deeply religious societies are “cults” when seen from modernity’s vistas.
ALL 'societies' are 'cults', when seen from the True perspective.

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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:54 pm I just recalled what my own father used to say around the dining table (4 girls, 5 boys)
“Take care of the boys and the girls will take care of themselves.”
I did not quite understand what he meant till (relatively) recently.
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accelafine wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:25 pm At the rate at which predatory straight white men are jumping on the 'trans' bandwagon, soon there won't be any straight white men-- only gay ones. 'Interestingly' the only men who are standing up for women in this are gay, and that's only because they see the whole 'trans' cult as deeply homophobic (which it is). There are a few exceptions countable on the fingers of one hand. Ricky Gervais and Graham Linehan are a couple of notable exceptions. I can't think of any others. That's not an opinion it's a FACT.
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'it is a FACT'. LOL

This one ACTUALLY BELIEVES that its OWN OBVIOUSLY 'one-sided biased views' are FACTS.
accelafine wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:25 pm The equally 'interesting' fact is that these predatory white men have handmaidens coming out of every orifice, simpering and fawning over them in a way that makes a geisha look like a radical feminist.
LOL An 'equal fact'. LOL
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:39 pm
“Take care of the boys and the girls will take care of themselves.”
accelafine wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:10 pm So it's, 'Be nice to us and do what we want and we won't hurt you'. That's a great message :D
Oh no, it did not have that connotation. I will try to explain. My father was beyond doubt strict and demanding, but never unfair.
LOL 'never' unfair.

Which is ANOTHER PRIME example of just how SIMPLY and EASILY children are INDOCTRINATED, and what some call BRAINWASHED, into the 'cult/ures' that they are 'brought up' and 'raised' IN.
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:39 pm He definitely put more energy (a great deal more) into his sons and their education and chastisement than ever seemed needed in the case of my sisters.

“To take care of the boys” meant to remind them at every turn of their duties and never to give in to their own strong-willed and selfish desires.
It appears that you BELIEVE, ABSOLUTELY, that "your father" instilled IN 'you', as a 'boy' and/or as a 'man', of 'your' DUTIES, so would you like to SHARE with the readers, here, what are the actual DUTIES of 'boys' and/or of 'men', EXACTLY?

If no, then WHY NOT?
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:39 pm I have to paraphrase but his view was that if men acted right — if they were conditioned to act right — that the girls (women) would attend quite naturally to their own needs and desires.
you speak as though 'men' and 'women' have DIFFERENT 'needs'. If you BELIEVE they do, then what are the actual DIFFERENCES, EXACTLY?
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:39 pm The idea was that when men did not behave correctly that they would be the cause of many different levels of upset.

More and more this seems true to me: delinquency begins among “the boys”.
What does it even MEAN 'begins? 'Delinquency' can be within or among ANY one or ANY group of you human beings.

And, WHERE did your BELIEF that, 'delinquency' begins among 'the boys', come FROM, EXACTLY?
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:39 pm
delinquency (dɪˈlɪŋkwənsɪ)
n, pl -cies
1. (Sociology) an offence or misdeed, usually of a minor nature, esp one committed by a young person. See juvenile delinquency
2. (Law) failure or negligence in duty or obligation; dereliction
3. (Sociology) a delinquent nature or delinquent behaviour
[C17: from Late Latin dēlinquentia a fault, offence, from Latin dēlinquere to transgress, from de- + linquere to forsake]
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Age wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:17 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:25 pm At the rate at which predatory straight white men are jumping on the 'trans' bandwagon, soon there won't be any straight white men-- only gay ones. 'Interestingly' the only men who are standing up for women in this are gay, and that's only because they see the whole 'trans' cult as deeply homophobic (which it is). There are a few exceptions countable on the fingers of one hand. Ricky Gervais and Graham Linehan are a couple of notable exceptions. I can't think of any others. That's not an opinion it's a FACT.
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'it is a FACT'. LOL

This one ACTUALLY BELIEVES that its OWN OBVIOUSLY 'one-sided biased views' are FACTS.

I understand that YOU have eyes and ears and would certainly NOTICE any MEN who were standing up for WOMEN'S rights, especially as there ARE so few of them. I'm just trying to annoy you because I'm a desperate, annoying little c***.
accelafine wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:25 pm The equally 'interesting' fact is that these predatory white men have handmaidens coming out of every orifice, simpering and fawning over them in a way that makes a geisha look like a radical feminist.
LOL An 'equal fact'. LOL ps I know the word 'equally' was referring to THE word 'INTERESTING' but I just like BEING an annoying, desperate little c***.
Showing a lot of desperation there. Gee, you are getting stupider and more desperate with age 'Age'.

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accelafine wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:25 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:17 am
accelafine wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:25 pm At the rate at which predatory straight white men are jumping on the 'trans' bandwagon, soon there won't be any straight white men-- only gay ones. 'Interestingly' the only men who are standing up for women in this are gay, and that's only because they see the whole 'trans' cult as deeply homophobic (which it is). There are a few exceptions countable on the fingers of one hand. Ricky Gervais and Graham Linehan are a couple of notable exceptions. I can't think of any others. That's not an opinion it's a FACT.
LOL
LOL
LOL

'it is a FACT'. LOL

This one ACTUALLY BELIEVES that its OWN OBVIOUSLY 'one-sided biased views' are FACTS.

I understand that YOU have eyes and ears and would certainly NOTICE any MEN who were standing up for WOMEN'S rights, especially as there ARE so few of them. I'm just trying to annoy you because I'm a desperate, annoying little c***.
accelafine wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:25 pm The equally 'interesting' fact is that these predatory white men have handmaidens coming out of every orifice, simpering and fawning over them in a way that makes a geisha look like a radical feminist.
LOL An 'equal fact'. LOL ps I know the word 'equally' was referring to THE word 'INTERESTING' but I just like BEING an annoying, desperate little c***.
Showing a lot of desperation there. Gee, you are getting stupider and more desperate with age 'Age'.

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If 'this' is what you 'see', and WANT TO BELIEVE, then that is PERFECTLY FINE, and OKAY WITH 'me'.
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Age wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:55 am It appears that you BELIEVE, ABSOLUTELY, that "your father" instilled IN 'you', as a 'boy' and/or as a 'man', of 'your' DUTIES, so would you like to SHARE with the readers, here, what are the actual DUTIES of 'boys' and/or of 'men', EXACTLY?
I do not have a problem sharing, however it would gratify me greatly if you would please make a monetary donation — preferably a repeating donation — to the Foundation that administers The 16-Week Email Course. Then I will share share share like there is no tomorrow.

Does that work for you?
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carlafeit wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:58 pm No, one of the many independent churches that are very numerous in the USA Bible Belt. In theory, we were not Baptist - we were just "Christian" - but the actual theology preached aligned pretty closely with the Calvinist-leaning Baptist churches.
You might appreciate this interesting interview with Joseph Campbell. Puts things in a different light.
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Age wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:42 am
accelafine wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 2:25 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:17 am

LOL
LOL
LOL

'it is a FACT'. LOL

This one ACTUALLY BELIEVES that its OWN OBVIOUSLY 'one-sided biased views' are FACTS.

I understand that YOU have eyes and ears and would certainly NOTICE any MEN who were standing up for WOMEN'S rights, especially as there ARE so few of them. I'm just trying to annoy you because I'm a desperate, annoying little c***.



LOL An 'equal fact'. LOL ps I know the word 'equally' was referring to THE word 'INTERESTING' but I just like BEING an annoying, desperate little c***.
Showing a lot of desperation there. Gee, you are getting stupider and more desperate with age 'Age'.

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If 'this' is what you 'see', and WANT TO BELIEVE, then that is PERFECTLY FINE, and OKAY WITH 'me'.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:43 am
Age wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:55 am It appears that you BELIEVE, ABSOLUTELY, that "your father" instilled IN 'you', as a 'boy' and/or as a 'man', of 'your' DUTIES, so would you like to SHARE with the readers, here, what are the actual DUTIES of 'boys' and/or of 'men', EXACTLY?
I do not have a problem sharing, however it would gratify me greatly if you would please make a monetary donation — preferably a repeating donation — to the Foundation that administers The 16-Week Email Course. Then I will share share share like there is no tomorrow.

Does that work for you?
1. ONCE AGAIN what can be VERY CLEARLY SEEN is that 'money', and/or 'these people's' 'love-of-money' OVERRODE ANY thing ELSE.

2. 'This one' is CLEARLY NOT REALLY ABLE TO EXPRESS and SHARE what it BELIEVES is 'men's' DUTIES, IN Life.

Unless, OF COURSE, it was INSTILLED that the DUTIES of 'men' is to NOT DO ABSOLUTELY ANY thing, UNLESS there is some monetary RETURN of some kind.
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carlafeit wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:55 pm So I am a girl and I have a number three brush cut and dress like a guy. This sometimes confuses people who are not sure if I am a guy or a girl, and sometimes they act weird about it, and say I would like a lot prettier with longer hair and so forth.

But guys who have long hair and dress like girls get serious hate - i.e. the kind of hate that can get your face stomped on late at night (or even not so late) if you are not careful.

Why is this?
Well, I have always understood, that if I want to know what a tree thinks, I ask a particular tree. Or, if I want to know what a particular rock thinks, I ask a rock. Now, these are inanimate objects, just as much as a general category is actually inanimate simply because one can never get a particular answer from something that is not alive. Generalization always removes the concept of life when not used correctly.

Personally, never thought of dressing like a girl. I look at people as what they are, a mind. Now, I have never had any problem getting laid, so why should I imagine that what is important about women is how the do their hair or cloths, or any decorative work on their body, I take exception to tatoos on anybody, regardless of gender; it is so disrespectful of the body.

So, to make a long story short, How in the hell can anyone actually answer your question, much less honestly?

Relation to self is inadmissible. It is not the body which changes because of our literacy or illiteracy. People lie when they say that we have a life choice, when factually we are born as potentially the most powerful life support system possible.

Personally, a woman who dresses for work, is one of the most beautiful of women.

So, tell us, are you saying that you have a mental problem like male cross dressers, or do you dress because we are born to work?
Male cross dressers are simply an insult to women.

It is not so much what someone does, one must enquire why they do it. Why do people dress this way or that, for example, I imagine that the Kilt, a man's dress, is fashionable because it was designed for the battlefield, I mean, after all, the purpose of battle is to fuck the hell out of the enemy, and a kilt makes that easier.

So, do you dress because of your own behavior, or do you dress to incite a behavior in others? And if it is to incite behavior from others, you have no cause to bitch that it was not a behavior you wanted.
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