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There are stories going around that Rupert Lowe is going to set up a new party, to be funded by Elon Musk, though I don't know how accurate they are. We don't need yet another new party, and there are lots of existing ones that he could join.
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Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:26 am There are stories going around that Rupert Lowe is going to set up a new party, to be funded by Elon Musk, though I don't know how accurate they are. We don't need yet another new party, and there are lots of existing ones that he could join.
Of course he has to start his own party, that's how he gets to be in control of the money. That's why the right wing populists are constantly folding old parties and launching new ones, it's always about the donor they are milking and who gets to sit closest to the teat.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:40 am
Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:26 am There are stories going around that Rupert Lowe is going to set up a new party, to be funded by Elon Musk, though I don't know how accurate they are. We don't need yet another new party, and there are lots of existing ones that he could join.
Of course he has to start his own party, that's how he gets to be in control of the money. That's why the right wing populists are constantly folding old parties and launching new ones, it's always about the donor they are milking and who gets to sit closest to the teat.
He's already independently wealthy, and each month donates his salary as an MP to a different charity. He may, indeed, be the only honourable person in that den of vipers.
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Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:46 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:40 am
Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:26 am There are stories going around that Rupert Lowe is going to set up a new party, to be funded by Elon Musk, though I don't know how accurate they are. We don't need yet another new party, and there are lots of existing ones that he could join.
Of course he has to start his own party, that's how he gets to be in control of the money. That's why the right wing populists are constantly folding old parties and launching new ones, it's always about the donor they are milking and who gets to sit closest to the teat.
He's already independently wealthy, and each month donates his salary as an MP to a different charity. He may, indeed, be the only honourable person in that den of vipers.
He's rich enough that he can afford to convert about 80K per annum into good publicity (and perhaps reserves the option to claim it all back via tax rebates?), and you are naive enough to buy into that. But you already named the mega-donor whos man titty he will be lapping at and that cash will buy him stuff that lies outside his means.

Meanwhile Farage, in an ill advised moment of spine ownership, briefly toyed with the notion of not toeing the line for that absurd Trump/Vance/Musk fantasy that Putin launches a brutal war every 7 years because other people are morally deficient. And for that now he must pay. Rupert will know not stray.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:26 am
Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:46 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:40 am

Of course he has to start his own party, that's how he gets to be in control of the money. That's why the right wing populists are constantly folding old parties and launching new ones, it's always about the donor they are milking and who gets to sit closest to the teat.
He's already independently wealthy, and each month donates his salary as an MP to a different charity. He may, indeed, be the only honourable person in that den of vipers.
He's rich enough that he can afford to convert about 80K per annum into good publicity (and perhaps reserves the option to claim it all back via tax rebates?), and you are naive enough to buy into that. But you already named the mega-donor whos man titty he will be lapping at and that cash will buy him stuff that lies outside his means.

Meanwhile Farage, in an ill advised moment of spine ownership, briefly toyed with the notion of not toeing the absurd Trump/Vance/Musk fantasy that Putin launches a brutal war every 7 years because other people are morally deficient. And for that now he must pay. Rupert will know not stray.
Rupert has apparently just announced that he'll be funding, and sourcing funds, for an independent enquiry into the rape gang scandal. The one that Farage promised, but has forgotten about. That'll come to a bit more than 80k, I think. Maybe that's what Elon Musk will be funding, although this is pure speculation on my part.
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Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:37 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:26 am
Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:46 am

He's already independently wealthy, and each month donates his salary as an MP to a different charity. He may, indeed, be the only honourable person in that den of vipers.
He's rich enough that he can afford to convert about 80K per annum into good publicity (and perhaps reserves the option to claim it all back via tax rebates?), and you are naive enough to buy into that. But you already named the mega-donor whos man titty he will be lapping at and that cash will buy him stuff that lies outside his means.

Meanwhile Farage, in an ill advised moment of spine ownership, briefly toyed with the notion of not toeing the absurd Trump/Vance/Musk fantasy that Putin launches a brutal war every 7 years because other people are morally deficient. And for that now he must pay. Rupert will know not stray.
Rupert has apparently just announced that he'll be funding, and sourcing funds, for an independent enquiry into the rape gang scandal. The one that Farage promised, but has forgotten about. That'll come to a bit more than 80k, I think. Maybe that's what Elon Musk will be funding, although this is pure speculation on my part.

Not sure why so many left wing people are upset that some have lots of money, particularly when it's anyone not from the extreme left.

Their leader, Keir Stalin has no interest in protecting the native population of British women and children from the terrible sexual/violent atrocities being inflicted upon them via immigrants from cultures with proven misogynistic attitude -- proven statistically per/capita data.

1. So what is Keir Stalin, in fact anyone from either of the two main parties?
ANSWER: Career politicians - it's just a job.

2. How do they consider being the best within their job?
ANSWER: Getting VOTES.

3. What is the problem with 2.?
ANSWERS:
-------A: With massive immigration it develops sectarian politics where pandering to the desires of a particular demographic wins you votes, regardless of statistical data regarding cultural issues such as violence against women and children.
-------B: It causes dissolution among voters in politics in general as if it's a waste of time/concern - no alternative party that will ever make a difference, no point in voting. This is reflected in the numbers that bothered to use their vote in the last election.
-------C: Secular groups have group thinking. They insist on using their votes to improve the aims of their ideology.

4. Solution?
ANSWER: Getting VOTES: Britain should introduce COMPULSORY voting. That will get the British natives to redevelop an interest in politics and drive the required balance back to elect a government that represents the majority of the population.
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attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:46 am
Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:37 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:26 am
He's rich enough that he can afford to convert about 80K per annum into good publicity (and perhaps reserves the option to claim it all back via tax rebates?), and you are naive enough to buy into that. But you already named the mega-donor whos man titty he will be lapping at and that cash will buy him stuff that lies outside his means.

Meanwhile Farage, in an ill advised moment of spine ownership, briefly toyed with the notion of not toeing the absurd Trump/Vance/Musk fantasy that Putin launches a brutal war every 7 years because other people are morally deficient. And for that now he must pay. Rupert will know not stray.
Rupert has apparently just announced that he'll be funding, and sourcing funds, for an independent enquiry into the rape gang scandal. The one that Farage promised, but has forgotten about. That'll come to a bit more than 80k, I think. Maybe that's what Elon Musk will be funding, although this is pure speculation on my part.

Not sure why so many left wing people are upset that some have lots of money, particularly when it's anyone not from the extreme left.

Their leader, Keir Stalin has no interest in protecting the native population of British women and children from the terrible sexual/violent atrocities being inflicted upon them via immigrants from cultures with proven misogynistic attitude -- proven statistically per/capita data.

1. So what is Keir Stalin, in fact anyone from either of the two main parties?
ANSWER: Career politicians - it's just a job.

2. How do they consider being the best within their job?
ANSWER: Getting VOTES.

3. What is the problem with 2.?
ANSWERS:
-------A: With massive immigration it develops sectarian politics where pandering to the desires of a particular demographic wins you votes, regardless of statistical data regarding cultural issues such as violence against women and children.
-------B: It causes dissolution among voters in politics in general as if it's a waste of time/concern - no alternative party that will ever make a difference, no point in voting. This is reflected in the numbers that bothered to use their vote in the last election.
-------C: Secular groups have group thinking. They insist on using their votes to improve the aims of their ideology.

4. Solution?
ANSWER: Getting VOTES: Britain should introduce COMPULSORY voting. That will get the British natives to redevelop an interest in politics and drive the required balance back to elect a government that represents the majority of the population.
And proportional representation, too. This was something I was ambivalent about for a long time, but the fact that Labour have two thirds of the seats in parliament, with only a third of the votes, convinced me of its necessity.
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Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:37 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:26 am
Maia wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:46 am

He's already independently wealthy, and each month donates his salary as an MP to a different charity. He may, indeed, be the only honourable person in that den of vipers.
He's rich enough that he can afford to convert about 80K per annum into good publicity (and perhaps reserves the option to claim it all back via tax rebates?), and you are naive enough to buy into that. But you already named the mega-donor whos man titty he will be lapping at and that cash will buy him stuff that lies outside his means.

Meanwhile Farage, in an ill advised moment of spine ownership, briefly toyed with the notion of not toeing the absurd Trump/Vance/Musk fantasy that Putin launches a brutal war every 7 years because other people are morally deficient. And for that now he must pay. Rupert will know not stray.
Rupert has apparently just announced that he'll be funding, and sourcing funds, for an independent enquiry into the rape gang scandal. The one that Farage promised, but has forgotten about. That'll come to a bit more than 80k, I think. Maybe that's what Elon Musk will be funding, although this is pure speculation on my part.
Welcome to the new right wing hero, same as the last right wing hero. You guys just keep falling for the same populist promises over and over again.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:02 pm Welcome to the new right wing hero, same as the last right wing hero. You guys just keep falling for the same populist promises over and over again.
At least you understand that the only hero's exist on the right side of politics. By hero you clearly acknowledge that we are attempting to get politicians into government that actually CARE about the state of the nation, rather than the same same career politicians that focus on remaining in government only for the sake of remaining in government...and getting all the £££££ perks of the office for as long as they can weasel on..
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Maia: Rupert has apparently just announced that he'll be funding, and sourcing funds, for an independent enquiry into the rape gang scandal. The one that Farage promised, but has forgotten about. That'll come to a bit more than 80k, I think. Maybe that's what Elon Musk will be funding, although this is pure speculation on my part.
Flash: Welcome to the new right wing hero, same as the last right wing hero. You guys just keep falling for the same populist promises over and over again.
C.f. Thomas Carlyle’s “cultural heroes”. Those men guided by a combination of inner steel and divine insight, and who establish or reestablish an orientation by which society is molded.

England is (if the sources I read are correct) controlled by what can only be described as a radical régime. The level of repression of free thought and certainty free-speech seems unbelievable from where I sit.

A cultural hero will always manifest in such a circumstance. And, in this case, it will certainly be one who begins to articulate an identitarian position. The reclamation of genuine identity, sound identity, and a powerful identity capable of turning the tide and getting things moving in a new direction.

But individuals must become ‘heroic’ as well and, insofar as they carry this out, must resolve to become unlike and opposed to a perverted person like you Mr. Flash. I mean far more than what the word pervert normally connotes. I mean, literally, a deranged, disordered man in a deranged, disordered present.

You must be overcome.

Philosophize that, Flash!
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Rupert Lowe launched his independent rape gang enquiry yesterday, and has already managed to crowdfund nearly a quarter of a million quid for it, showing the true level of public disgust, I think. Here's the link, anyway.

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/the-rape-gang-inquiry-1
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