Christianity

[Age]

AGE wrote:

ONCE MORE, INTERPRETATIONS OF God are ONLY bound TO DIFFER UNTIL people come-together, peacefully, TO FIND OUT what 'it' IS, EXACTLY, which EVERY one could AGREE WITH, and ACCEPT.

My personal interpretation of God is that which is animating this body making it conscious of being alive.
God is also that which is growing the grass.

That’s my very simplified idea of what God means to me personally.

So are you Age, coming together, peacefully, getting on board, agreeing with my finding? Or not?

If not, then do you recognise a dilemma here?

There is a dilemma going to happen if and when someone insists there is one version of God that suits everyone.

There WILL ONLY BE A DILEMMA IF the INSISTED UPON ONE VERSION does NOT ALIGN WITH EVERY one.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO DILEMMA IN JUST INSISTING that there IS ONE VERSION OF God that SUITS EVERY one, as long as whoever is INSISTING 'this' IS ABLE TO and DOES back up, support, and PROVE their CLAIM True, Right, Accurate, AND Correct.

I suggest the criterion is that what you hold to be most worthy is your God. In Fairy's case, for instance, what Fairy describes as her God is actually nature's laws.

And, NO one can REFUTE what Nature/God PROVES True, Right, Accurate, AND Correct.

[Age]

So, does 'hello' MEAN God owes you human beings hell? Or, something else?

Close (*the other way around).

The significance being, that HELLO is the standard greeting in the English speaking world.

In the days when this is being written, YES, I AGREE.

GOD/Christ have often stated about us being destined to HELL, so yes, akin to owe HELL,

What has been mentioned, or stated, is that if you human beings do NOT behave accordingly, then you, human beings, will live IN 'hell', or WITH-IN 'hell'-like conditions.

And, just to IN-FORM those of 'you', WITH a 'greedy' and/or 'selfish' pre-condition the words, 'living in hell', have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH 'you', human beings, INDIVIDUALLY, and 'those words' are in relation to ALL OF 'you', COLLECTIVELY, here, ON earth.

Ergo, HELL_O phonetically = HELL owe

'Hello' being equivalent to 'HELL owe' is just what 'you', "attofishpi', HEARD, or HEARS, and thus also SAW, or SEES.

But, there is NO 'ergo/therefore', here, as though your OWN hearing/seeing applies to EVERY one, as some IRREFUTABLE CONCLUSION.

What you HEAR, and SEE, here, is just your OWN INTERPRETATION, and thus just your OWN CONCLUSION, ONLY.

Just as you SEE, and HEAR, phonetically, 'Hello' = HELL_O = HELL owe, others may well SEE, and HEAR, phonetically, 'Hello' = HE_LLO, which = HE_low.

Which, to them, might MEAN that 'HE' is LOWER than 'us', or 'I'.

Which is then 'evidence' for something else, significant. 'Hello' is the standard greeting in the "English" language, after all.

SEE, 'these people' might be BELIEVING something ELSE, from what you do, and so they 'HEAR', and 'SEE', DIFFERENT 'things', and so also GAIN DIFFERENT 'evidence', FROM what you do.

Thus, the SIGNIFICANCE I have been asking Belinda to recognise.

Are you AWARE that 'those' who HEAR, and SEE, 'HE low' can ALSO CLAIM, the EXACT SAME, 'The significance being, that HELLO is the standard greeting in the English speaking world.'

But, TO MOST, the so-claimed and so-called 'SIGNIFICANCE' is, literally, NOT even HERE, nor THERE.

That the 'standard greeting' in the "english" language for 'some relatively insignificant little amount of time' is NOT, REALLY, related to 'HE low' NOR 'HELL owe'. TO SOME or MOST 'Hello' is JUST A greeting, only.

Good boy Age, now off you go and allow myself and Belinda to discuss all the other quirks of the English LAN_gauge.

1. LOL ALL of the other quirks. What is the MOST you have found, here? Are 'you' up to two dozen yet?

2. 'TRYING TO BE' 'condescending' when 'you' are where 'you' are, does NOT really look 'good' ON, nor FOR, 'you'.

3. That you can ONLY 'hear' and 'see' what you do, here, and are NOT SEEING and HEARING what others POINT OUT and SHOW you, SHOWS and PROVES just how NARROWED and CLOSED you REALLY ARE BEING, here.

[Age]

So, does 'hello' MEAN God owes you human beings hell? Or, something else?

Close (*the other way around).

The significance being, that HELLO is the standard greeting in the English speaking world.

GOD/Christ have often stated about us being destined to HELL, so yes, akin to owe HELL,

Ergo, HELL_O phonetically = HELL owe

Thus, the SIGNIFICANCE I have been asking Belinda to recognise.

Good boy Age, now off you go and allow myself and Belinda to discuss all the other quirks of the English LAN_gauge.

Now that you have edited this post,

The "english" speaking world is, REALLY, of NO 'significance' AT ALL, in the SCHEME OF things. That you JUST HAPPEN to speak "english", ONLY, you, STILL, have NOT YET RECOGNIZED is what IS ACTUALLY INFLUENCING and FURTHER your BELIEFS and CONFIRMATION BIASES, here.

you, human beings, are NOT DESTINED TO HELL, AT ALL, as you BELIEVE.

you, human beings, are ACTUALLY DESTINED TO LIVE IN PEACE and IN HARMONY, on earth, as IT IS IN HEAVEN. As has been OFTEN STATED.

you, human beings, however, WILL LIVE IN HELL like CONDITIONS, UNTIL you LEARN BY, and FROM, your MISTAKES, WHENCE you WILL CHANGE your OLD WAYS, and WILL THEN START LIVING ANEW, here, ON EARTH, as IT IS IN HEAVEN. Now, 'this' IS YOUR DESTINY.

But, if you REALLY WANT TO BELIEVE that God/"christ" often stated that you are DESTINED to BE and LIVE IN HELL, FOREVER MORE, then, REMEMBER, you are ABSOLUTELY FREE TO BELIEVE whatever you WANT TO and/or LIKE TO. But, NEVER EVER is what you BELIEVE IS TRUE NECESSARILY TRUE AT ALL.

[attofishpi]

Now that you have edited this post,

Oh no, did I correct a spelling mistake and now you feel the need to use your arse (what u use to think with) to again, ANAL_lyse what I had to say?

[iambiguous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7bywPush9I

"The storms that killed at least 18 people across Arkansas, Mississippi and Missouri on Friday and Saturday continued to pummel a vast section of the South, leveling homes, taking down power lines and turning communities into debris fields.

"Before the intense and long-lasting tornadoes arrived, forecasters said that their level of threat was typically experienced only once or twice in a lifetime." nyt

Ironically, in America, there is no greater commitment to Christianity than in the South.

Then the part where a reporter covering the devastation notes that the only building left standing was...the church.

Or those who just lost everything they owned, insisting all that really matters is the Lord spared them.



On the other hand, whatever possessed God in Heaven to spawn tornados?

[attofishpi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7bywPush9I

"The storms that killed at least 18 people across Arkansas, Mississippi and Missouri on Friday and Saturday continued to pummel a vast section of the South, leveling homes, taking down power lines and turning communities into debris fields.

"Before the intense and long-lasting tornadoes arrived, forecasters said that their level of threat was typically experienced only once or twice in a lifetime." nyt

Ironically, in America, there is no greater commitment to Christianity than in the South.

Then the part where a reporter covering the devastation notes that the only building left standing was...the church.

Or those who just lost everything they owned, insisting all that really matters is the Lord spared them.



On the other hand, whatever possessed God in Heaven to spawn tornados?

You do understand that these 18 people had their souls taken prior to great suffering?

That they are likely to be reincarnated soon.

That it's extremely strange that you think HEAVEN should be across the face of the Earth right now such that none of us have any reason to learn and adapt to challenges..

Do you understand how daft you sound pertaining to GOD?

[Age]

Now that you have edited this post,

Oh no, did I correct a spelling mistake and now you feel the need to use your arse (what u use to think with) to again, ANAL_lyse what I had to say?

Do you, REALLY, BELIEVE that what you EDITED was A 'spelling mistake', ONLY?

[Fairy]

Now that you have edited this post,

Oh no, did I correct a spelling mistake and now you feel the need to use your arse (what u use to think with) to again, ANAL_lyse what I had to say?

Are you trying to make this all about you?

[Fairy]

AGE wrote:

ONCE MORE, INTERPRETATIONS OF God are ONLY bound TO DIFFER UNTIL people come-together, peacefully, TO FIND OUT what 'it' IS, EXACTLY, which EVERY one could AGREE WITH, and ACCEPT.

My personal interpretation of God is that which is animating this body making it conscious of being alive.

Okay, I AGREE, PARTLY, WITH 'this interpretation', but is it 'the body'', EXACTLY, which is conscious of being alive, or something else?

I know that I am, but I do not know who or what I am.

God is also that which is growing the grass.

I AGREE God may well be 'growing the grass', as well as 'growing' absolutely everything ELSE, but who and/or what is 'God', EXACTLY.

I know I am, but I do not know who or what I am.

you are more or less just, here, saying - 'It' grows grass, and, 'It' animates 'a body'.

No word can describe IT or God, or, every word describes IT or God?

Can IT or God, be described without using a word ? >maybe, maybe by a silent nonconceptual recognition, maybe?

[Age]

My personal interpretation of God is that which is animating this body making it conscious of being alive.

Okay, I AGREE, PARTLY, WITH 'this interpretation', but is it 'the body'', EXACTLY, which is conscious of being alive, or something else?

I know that I am, but I do not know who or what I am.

But 'I' know that I am Conscious, and Aware, and 'I', also, do know who and what 'I' am, EXACTLY.

So, who of the two of 'you', here, is Right, Accurate, and Correct, EXACTLY?

God is also that which is growing the grass.

I AGREE God may well be 'growing the grass', as well as 'growing' absolutely everything ELSE, but who and/or what is 'God', EXACTLY.

I know I am, but I do not know who or what I am.

When 'you', the one known as "fairy" SAYS and CLAIMS, 'I know I am', what are 'you' even REFERRING TO, EXACTLY?

you are more or less just, here, saying - 'It' grows grass, and, 'It' animates 'a body'.

No word can describe IT or God, or, every word describes IT or God?

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'This', here, is ANOTHER PRIME example of HOW and WHY 'these people', back when this was being written, WERE SO, SO FAR BEHIND, NOT CLOSING UP AT ALL, and actually only getting FURTHER and FURTHER BEHIND.

Can IT or God, be described without using a word ?

Can ANY thing be described without using a word?

if yes, then who and/or what are 'those things or that thing', EXACTLY?

Also, did you NOT recognize that you described the 'Thing' known as God, by using a word?

>maybe, maybe by a silent nonconceptual recognition, maybe?

[Belinda]

Self -affirmed Christians in this philosophy forum can't seem to offer any reasoned support for Christianity. I would love to read a church-going Christian who can reason that Christianity is good. I am not being flippant or ironic I state a matter of fact.
Immanuel Can comes closest to reasoning for Christianity, but fails when he confuses the Christ of faith and the Jesus of history.

[Belinda]

Now that you have edited this post,

Oh no, did I correct a spelling mistake and now you feel the need to use your arse (what u use to think with) to again, ANAL_lyse what I had to say?

Attofishpi, your spelling game is past its sell by date.

[Fairy]

But 'I' know that I am Conscious, and Aware, and 'I', also, do know who and what 'I' am, EXACTLY.

So, who of the two of 'you', here, is Right, Accurate, and Correct, EXACTLY?

But 'I' know that I am Conscious, and Aware, and 'I', also, do know who and what 'I' am, EXACTLY.

Are the words in 'bold' the end of the thought loop on knowing who and what 'I' am, exactly?

[Belinda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7bywPush9I

"The storms that killed at least 18 people across Arkansas, Mississippi and Missouri on Friday and Saturday continued to pummel a vast section of the South, leveling homes, taking down power lines and turning communities into debris fields.

"Before the intense and long-lasting tornadoes arrived, forecasters said that their level of threat was typically experienced only once or twice in a lifetime." nyt

Ironically, in America, there is no greater commitment to Christianity than in the South.

Then the part where a reporter covering the devastation notes that the only building left standing was...the church.

Or those who just lost everything they owned, insisting all that really matters is the Lord spared them.



On the other hand, whatever possessed God in Heaven to spawn tornados?

Ambiguous, the Problem of Evil is worth mentioning, but some don't seem to be able to see the problem. I wish you would say something in support of Christianity , or do you see it as entirely negative?

[Belinda]

But 'I' know that I am Conscious, and Aware, and 'I', also, do know who and what 'I' am, EXACTLY.

So, who of the two of 'you', here, is Right, Accurate, and Correct, EXACTLY?

But 'I' know that I am Conscious, and Aware, and 'I', also, do know who and what 'I' am, EXACTLY.

Are the words in 'bold' the end of the thought loop on knowing who and what 'I' am, exactly?

But you (nor anyone else) don't know what and who you are until the very end of your life. What and who you are is yet to be accomplished.